Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

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1. Poland had similar "policy" towards Germans with regard to politic of reapproachment which was lead by Polish clergy during PRL era (to the dismay of Polish people in general but, also the communists in power) it was a very Christian thing to do, and as we can see. The approach of peace, talk and forgiveness has brought very good fruits in general I must say towards relations with Germany. In which Germans noticed too is a good foreign policy, which they also have used basically as a default policy towards everyone so to speak. Naturally it has been tried towards Ukraine and Russia too, regarding Russia it has been mixed results due to their paranoia and skewed worldview and priorities. (Compared to Germany, China, Japan, India etc)

2. You are an American I presume and within your judicial system it's a lot based on shoot first, ask questions later and revenge/tit for tat is perfectly normal and legal. In Europe such approach is looked down upon in general, there is a lot greater expectation to be benevolent as humans make mistakes and hope for governmental powers are to be benevelont and not petty or vengeful. (Which is a stark contrast with PiS and Putinists, if anything that have this very much in common)

3. It makes No sense to "not" bury the hatchet and focus on Ukraine's and Poland's biggest danger which was Russia pre 2014. Every military plan in Poland and Ukraine should had foreseen and make preperations for such an eventuality, problem is that there were very large and strong forces hampering such plans due to point 1. With wish for diplomacy, trade and forgiveness to be the path forward. Their arguments were obliterated when Russian troops tried to enter Kiev, cause No sane leader in this world of chess is interested in their king piece to be knocked out immediately. It would create a dangerous and unwanted precedance (which Iraq is a very good example of). Problem is with Russian leadership wanting to push for this U.S.A mistake and precedance cause of their petiness -.-

faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/ukraine-krieg-erdogan-empfaengt-selenskyj-in-der-tuerkei-19019850.html

Erm.....did I miss something? Was there a fallout with his chum in Moscow???

Russia poses an existential threat to Poland (which we somewhat mitigate by NATO membership). Ukraine does not pose such a threat.
Russia occupied Poland for 123 years during the Partitions and then turned our country into its vassal for 44 years of the 20th century.
Ukraine never was in position to do such a thing.
That's why we should support Ukraine against Russia.

If you want revenge for Volyn, enlist with Russia, bro. I hear they're fighting a war on Bandera.
But I guess you'd rather just keep hoping that Russia wins instead. Good luck with that.
Majority of Poles want to keep on supporting Ukraine. The weapons will continue being sent and Russians will continue dying as a result.

Ukraine never exist before beginning of 20 century, and hardly will exist in third decade of 21 century.


So, after finishing "Ukraine" project, probably we should finish "Poland" project, for the sake of peace and prosperity in Eurasia. US Deep State should look for other places to ignite wars and supply their MIC with orders and to siphon taxpayer money.

"Final Partition" - name looks good to me to be included to history textbooks.

No, Poland is already a NATO member.

Is Poland getting paid for all or most of the stuff we send to Ukraine.
If we give them all that on credit - that OK. It is too much to give all for free, yet Poles do not know what gov is doing.

You seem agitated.
Ukrainians are already fighting and Russia can't deal with them. In what badly written sf novel this bloodied Russia would want to pick a fight with another country(ies)?

Hey russia russia whacha gonna do when the NATO snake sinks it fangs in you?!?!

This is exactly why Russia is in Ukraine and why Ukraine is a dead man walking - with a 5000-mile-long IV tube.

And NATO, which had been slowly dissolving, is now more united than ever with one new member (Finland.... that's gotta sting) and another on tap (Sweden, the Baltic will be a NATO lake where russia can operate only with NATO permission).

not the smartest guy on the block, vova is....

vova - dumb guy who's gotten tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of russians killed (and driven hundreds of thousands of higher IQ russians out of the country)

Poland is already getting the benefit of supplying Ukraine weapons - it has strengthened a position in the EU and the fact that Putin cannot win the war has also encouraged investment to return to Poland and the neighboring region, Which has stabilized our currency and preventing unemployment.

That is worth far more than the actual invoice cost of the weapons.

Here is a joke I just heard. How many dead Ukrainians does it take to keep US MIC fat and happy? The answer: All of them, plus foreign volunteers.

Did you know that the US is gpoing broke, has no enemies, but does have 44 four-star generals? You see, my little Polish boy, once you have them, got to keep 'em busy...That's why the US loves wars and spends 40% of the world's total to defend every sh*ithole on the globe except itself. This the US army is not allowed to do.

BTW, since you are closer, send an email to your dead Ukraine heroes and include the definition of "useful idiot".

Incrementally, Finland and Sweden in NATO mean sh*it.

So do they pay for it or will pay for it later? If not are we just give it to them for free? All of it?>that stupid.


are you one of those Gate's Mosquitoe mutants? You are very noisy.

@Ironside
As far as I remember, certain trade interests or businesses will prioritise Polish businesses in key areas over other countries.

Basically privieleged investments to Ukraine, if uphold. It would basically create investments from Poland that doesn't have to compete with other non-Ukrainian investments.

Also by ensuring that Ukraine survives this in one shape or form, reduces chances for Russian investments, which used to be Poland's main rival in Ukraine.

Isn't that enough? Or you think some special agreement about a few million złoty would be better compared to potentially huge budget increase from this revenue?

Here's one I heard...

Q: How many soldiers does russia need to take over Ukraine?

A: More than they've got....

No.

Poland will be reimbursed by the US government. The US government will be reimbursed by US taxpayers.

Or it will steal from US savers using the technique known as "printing" money.

those are promises and hopes nothing more, and not A legally binding document.
I don't know if you have 7mld to spare, you are good.
After all the uk untill few years back was paying off USA debt accured from the WWII L-L.


the hell it will. We are paying an arm and a leg for your junk. So shut your mug.
your taxpayers money goes into lobbing in Poland LGBT people, nobody wants them, take those money and shove it and they those american freaks and keep them...yankee BS

They might be getting it for free but the benefit to our economy and thus our tax inflows outweighs the cost of the weapons. It is easy to understand

The US has spent over $100 Billion in aid to Ukraine.

Not a penny of it has advanced peace or democracy.

All of it has advanced the military industrial complex and possibly of WWIII

hmm.. how it works for you? Do you have some free stuff or money to give out?

I just reaad this article about Ukraine and would have sworn that Novi or Veland wrote it.
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They lied about Afghanistan. They lied about Iraq. Now they're lying about Ukraine
The playbook the pimps of war use to lure us into one military fiasco after another, including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine, does not change. Freedom and democracy are threatened. Evil must be vanquished. Human rights must be protected. The fate of Europe and NATO, along with a "rules-based international order" is at stake. Victory is assured.

news.yahoo.com/lied-afghanistan-lied-iraq-now-160001611.html

not an article.... a glorified editorial from a russian shill.... of course itt sounds like the russian shills here....

it refers to Maidan as a "coup" which is hilariously wrong propaganda from the russkies....

believe what you want to believe but try to base it on evidence....

Control your anger maf as it is too an article.
This article originally appeared at ScheerPost. Used by permission.
SO YES IT IS AN ARTICLE so go jump in the lake.
Yes, we were lied to start the war with Vietnam - read Gulf of Tonkin incident lie
Yes we were lied to start the war with Irag - read Weapons of mass destruction lie.
Yes we were lied to start the war in Afanistan as the terrorists that did 911 were from Saudi not Gani.
Now we are being lied to that Russia started the war in Ukraine when it was the United States that started that war by provoking Russia by putting missile defense systems on their border and many other reasons.

The West was not listening when Putin said, "if you do, a lot of people are going to die."
The elite money grubbers are getting very rich $$$$$ off this war by lying to the bootlickers again.

@Novichok, a key word to identify well-hidden Russian propaganda when watching your YT videos.

You are a true American exceptionalist! You can't imagine that any other country has any agenda of its own... it's just led around and manipulated by the mighty, mighty US!

Who crossed the Ukrainian border in 2014?

Who crossed it in larger numbers in 2022?

hint: it wasn't the US and russia did it for internal reasons that have very little to do with the US..... it's not all about the US no matter how devastating that news is to you....

But feel free to svkk russian cckc like novi (metaphorically speaking) if you want.... just get comfortable knee pads and go to it! chug chug chug!!!!!!!

Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'

Kadyrov... on vacation? He's been looking really sick lately and rumors abound regarding terrible health....so..... resting temporarily or is this a more..... longterm rest....?

twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1677784734888239105

The surest and quickest way to end this war is by sending US taxpayers monthly invoices to show how generous they are.

..... to win this war so it doesn't knock to America's door.

russian state tv regularly talks about the urgent necessity of nuking the US but he doesn't believe because they leave that part out of RT....

@ maffy
They just flew their nuclear bombers to their Artic base ahead of the NATO summit.


Now control your emotions and quit being rude by pointing your finger again.


Now come on maffy, you know that the mighty mighty U.S. "IS" NATO.