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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Novichok
8 Jul 2023  #1711

..... to win this war so it doesn't knock to America's door.

Since Dec 7, 1941, no war knocked on America's door. America has a habit of looking for wars and when it can't find one, America starts wars. For "freedom and democracy", of course...an easy sell since Americans suffer from a mental disorder known as the messiah complex. That is why America and Poland are buddies.

Even PH was provoked by American meddling where America didn't belong.

You know...justifying nearly 1 trillion mil "budget" and 44 generals ain't easy without a good size war every so often...

cms neuf
9 Jul 2023  #1712

Udmurtia started this war. Not America who tried hard to avert it.

Ukraine will finish it

johnny reb
9 Jul 2023  #1713

I would like to respond to your Off-Topic post, Repeat Richie, but I don't want to get a suspension.
Poland is the most generous European country that I could find by donating .88% of their GDP to Ukraine.

Novichok
9 Jul 2023  #1714

Udmurtia started this war. Not America who tried hard to avert it.

No, silly little Polish boy. Ask Israel who started the 1967 war and learn the definition of "started". No, it's not always the guy who fires the first shot.

If you want to wise up, read a comment posted by a reader 100 times smarter than you:

"The negotiations ultimately fizzled out." Oh? Is that what happened? Or was it that Russia and Ukraine had actually reached real agreements, all ready to finalize, but Washington, London and Brussels would have none of it because THEY wanted: 1) a full-on war to feed their arms industries and 2) free use of a strategically located puppy-dog "state" to develop and launch bioweapons against 3) their real objective, which is to realize Hitler's wet dream of colonizing and controlling Russia.

Now, be a good boy and try to understand what you just read...

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jul 2023  #1715

"Legion Freedom Russia" threatens to attack Russia

spiegel.de/ausland/news-zum-russland-ukraine-krieg-das-geschah-in-der-nacht-zu-sonntag-9-juli-a-ad7ed80b-c7d8-45da-8aae-a66a136afd21

The paramilitary Russian volunteer battalion »Legion Freedom of Russia« caused a stir with attacks on Russian soil. According to a spokesman, the group is now planning further actions in the Russian border area.

"There will be another surprise in the coming month or so," said Maximillian Andronikov, who calls himself Caesar, in an interview with Britain's Sunday newspaper The Observer.

. "This will be our third mission," he said. After that there will be a fourth and a fifth. "We have ambitious plans. We want to liberate our entire territory," the spokesman continued. The "Legion of Freedom of Russia" consists of Russian nationalists who are currently fighting on the side of Ukraine .

Already in May and June, fighters of the »Legion« together with the »Russian Volunteer Corps« took part in attacks in the Russian border region of Belgorod near Ukraine. According to the Ukrainian secret service, such operations are intended, among other things, to "liberate the area from the so-called Putin regime". The government in Kiev stressed that it had nothing to do with the attacks.....


mafketis
9 Jul 2023  #1716

not always the guy who fires the first shot

ho be chuggin'

mafketis
9 Jul 2023  #1717

In other news... flash floods hit Sochi..... and you can be sure that the russian government doesn't care and won't offer citizens any help (it may create a situation where a 'local' politician can steal a lot of money, so..... yeah.... russia......)

twitter.com/EPICGOPFAIL/status/1678011237504827392

cms neuf
9 Jul 2023  #1718

I know the meaning of the word started. So for instance when you push the "on" button of your supposed Lexus then it starts.

When an average Udmurtian pulls the choke and twists the key of his crappy Lada, then it might start if its not too hot, too cold or too damp.

So Udmurtia started this war, with a Keystone Cops operation to capture Kyiv airport. They forgot the GPS, forgot their ammo and forgot to line up any reinforcements but apart from that it went well.

These incompetent losers were the finest of your Special Forces but they performed like drunk teenagers, absolutely pathetic.

Alien
9 Jul 2023  #1719

operation to capture Kyiv airport.

As far as I know, the Ukrainians shot them like ducks. And very well, otherwise Ukraine wouldn't exist today. This successful operation at the beginning of the war also raised the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers and showed that it is possible to win against the "invincible" russian army.

Bobko
9 Jul 2023  #1720

showed that it is possible to win against the "invincible" russian army.

Maybe not invincible, but all the richest countries in the world dumping their accumulated reserves at this conflict, without conclusive effect - shows that Russians know how to fight.

Velund
9 Jul 2023  #1721

[quote]Dmitry Medvedev:

If the attempted attack of Smolensk (Desnogorsk) NPP by NATO missiles will be confirmed, it is necessary to consider the scenario of a simultaneous Russian strike on the South Ukraine NPP, Rivne NPP and Khmelnitsky NPP, as well as on nuclear facilities in Eastern Europe. There is nothing to be embarrassed about.

[End of quote]

cms neuf
9 Jul 2023  #1722

But many of the biggest nations have also been selling Udmurtia weapons - China, India, Iran, North Korea and er Uganda.

Note selling not giving - because Udmurtia has no real friends. Who wants to hang out with Nazis ?

The only fight Udmurtians know something about is punching your neighbor in a queue for a bag of sugar or some cooking oil

Novichok
9 Jul 2023  #1723

But many of the biggest nations have also been selling Udmurtia weapons - China, India, Iran, North Korea and er Uganda.

Hey, little boy, you forgot the US and Poland. Those two countries don't sell weapons but, by buying Russian goods, give Russia the next best thing - money that buys weapons. Duh!

Quoting:

US imports from Russia double - new data
The United States has increased imports of goods from Russia despite its numerous economic sanctions on the country, data published by the US Census Bureau revealed on Thursday.


Do you know what this means, little boy? It means that the money Russia makes by selling things to the US and Poland is used to kill Ukrainians. Not very nice, is it?

Does that make the US a Russian ally?

Korvinus
9 Jul 2023  #1724

scenario of a simultaneous Russian strike on the South Ukraine NPP, Rivne NPP and Khmelnitsky NPP, as well as on nuclear facilities in Eastern Europe

As for nukes, we really don't care if they're in Belarus or Kralowiec oblast. You get used to them like you get used to living next to Russians. A shi*tty situation, but a manageable one.

Novichok
10 Jul 2023  #1725

A shi*tty situation, but a manageable one

Please tell us, my dear Polish hero, how you would manage a 10-megaton nuke over Warsaw. Here is a hint:

How much damage would a 10-megaton nuclear bomb do?
A single 10-megaton bomb, though, could destroy entire metro areas, subjecting over a thousand square miles to a crushing blast wave and searing heat, easily producing casualties in the millions. The radioactivity produced would also be multiplied many hundreds of times, creating the possibility of vast contamination.


cms neuf
10 Jul 2023  #1726

First you would have to find one that is in full working order. If it is fired and doesn't work then that is existential for Udmurtia - it would trigger the NATO response anyway.

The last Udmurtian test of this equipment was in 1966 - Lev Yashin was still in goal at the time, kids were still asking why Dad suddenly disappeared and your ancestors were putting their names down for a Lada that was finally delivered in 1983.

Do you think that the military would let paranoid Nazis like Putin and ruined alcoholics like Medvedev anywhere hear the nukes ? He probably has suitcase and a button that is connected to a death squad who will kill him if he ever presses it.

And if none of those theories are true then fine, go for it, fire your nuke. At least I won't have to worry about the wife's birthday present this year.

What a pathetic threat

Novichok
10 Jul 2023  #1727

First you would have to find one that is in full working order.

Luckily, the US is not as moronic as your post and doesn't count on that Russian nukes won't work. Only a stupid Polak would...

Novichok
10 Jul 2023  #1728

Quoting:

The US could not care less about causing even more death and destruction far away from its borders, Russia's ambassador to Washington, Anatoly Antonov, has claimed.

He made the comment after Washington's National Security Council spokesman John Kirby acknowledged that some civilians "will likely be hurt" by US-supplied cluster bombs.


Hey, Anatoly, take it easy...At least American cluster bombs can't kidnap kids so our American conscious is clear - only rip their bodies apart so no problem...

To get full credit, let's make sure they are clearly marked with Made in USA plus a gay flag decal.

Korvinus
10 Jul 2023  #1729

, how you would manage a 10-megaton nuke over Warsaw.

Two can play the escalation game.

So far the West made Russian nuclear threats a hollow weapon - each time Russia threatens the use of nukes, West simply ignores it an increases support for Ukraine anyway.

If Russia decides to realise its threat and actually conducts a single nuclear strike on NATO soil, the West is faced with a dilemma:
1) back off, thus encouraging using such nuclear blackmail in the future,
2) respond in a symmetrical manner, thus discouraging such nuclear blackmail in the future.

While the former may be tempting for weaklings, you cannot rule out West chooses the latter to avoid such situations in the future.

Lets say Russians strike Rzeszów, supply hub for Ukraine.

In response USA strikes a nuclear hit on Krasnodar, a supply hub for Russian troops in Ukraine - and warns that in the future each nuclear attack on NATO will result in adequate response.

What can then now Russia do?

mafketis
10 Jul 2023  #1730

plus a gay flag

ho wanna show he gay!

In other news, Turkey now supports Sweden accession to NATO!!!!!!

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1678490291332870154

eat it russkies the baltic will be a NATO lake..

Korvinus
10 Jul 2023  #1731

.At least American cluster bombs can't kidnap kids so our American conscious is clear - only rip their bodies apart so no problem...

You can shut the fu*ck up with your concern trolling given that you don't care that Russia has been using far less safe cluster munitions, along with land mines and many other dangerous munitions, as part of their war of aggression against Ukraine with large scale warcrimes that you support.

Your moral judgement means absolutely nothing.

However, to rub in the difference, Ukraine requested the munitions to defend themselves and is taking measures to mitigate the long term harm.

The massive number of mines Russia is deploying (along with other UXO) will cause far more long term harm to Ukrainian civilians. Ending the war in Ukrainian victory more quickly is the primary thing that can be done to decrease civilian harm overall.

And just like the west has supported Ukraine in this war, the west will support Ukraine in their rebuilding and recovery, to include demining and cleaning up UXO. All of which are 100% the fault of Russia for having started this conflict and this invasion.

Novichok
10 Jul 2023  #1732

You can shut the fu*ck up with your concern trolling

Are you OK? I just admitted that American cluster bombs are better and that's what I get?

with large scale warcrimes that you support.

OK, that hurts...So let me explain the difference between "war crimes" and taking kids to safety.
War crimes are what the Nuremberg and similar post-war trials were about. There is plenty of good stuff on this subject on the Internet so you can read it in your spaer time.

On the other hand, no German soldier was ever charged with war crimes for taking kids to a safer place. I was one of them and I would like to thank the Germans who saved my life. If they were charged, I would testify in their defense. Because of that, I like them more than the AK idiots who put my life at risk.

See the difference or is my English too hard to understand?

Novichok
11 Jul 2023  #1733

Quoting:

So why, you may ask, are the Americans offering cluster bombs to the Ukrainians? President Biden let slip the reason in an interview on Sunday: 'This is a war relating to munitions. And they're running out of that ammunition, and we're low on it'.

Simple. Let's give the useful idiots what most civilized countries have banned: those "democratic" cluster bombs...the kinder and gentler versions of the Russian cluster bombs.

In early March, the use of cluster munitions by Russian troops in Ukraine was condemned by representatives of the European Union, the Secretary General of NATO,...

Oh, crap, what to do about them cluster thingies when it's our guys who are war criminals...Hmm...

OK, I have an idea. Let's redefine "criminals" so that only Russians will fit the definition. Brilliant. Am I a genius or what?

Novichok
11 Jul 2023  #1734

About a year ago. the WH spokesperson said that Russians are war criminals because they use cluster bombs.
Today, cluster bombs are just fine because those are American bombs that will be killing for freedom and democracy. Makes perfect sense...

johnny reb
11 Jul 2023  #1735

Makes perfect sense...

I agree, fight fire with fire.

Joker
11 Jul 2023  #1736

. Makes perfect sense...

Its only bc our missile stockpiles are getting low.

We better hope China doesnt decide to attack us!

WH spokesperson said that Russians are war criminals

Thats make Bidumb a war criminal as well.

Korvinus
11 Jul 2023  #1737

So let me explain the difference between "war crimes" and taking kids to safety.

The UN investigators concur with the ICC that the Russian kidnapping of Ukrainian Children has not been conducted in the appropriate way and is a war crime. I am fully confident that those involved in both investigations know a lot about the laws involved and are in fact experts on those laws. And that your claims that they have gotten it wrong are based on absolutely nothing.

ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiukraine/A_HRC_52_62_AUV_EN.pdf

mafketis
11 Jul 2023  #1738

, the use of cluster munitions by Russian troops in Ukraine was condemned

Cause they were using them on civilians.... Ukrainians will be using them against an invading army.

Do try to keep up... or just keep chuggin' that sweet sweet russian c--- you like so much.... whatever.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Jul 2023  #1739

So.....it seems after a talk with Stoltenberg Erdogan frees the way for Sweden to become a member of NATO.

I wonder (again) what did Stoltenberg promise to make that man bend, I so hope it's not a membership in the EU....nobody wants Turkey in the EU...truly nobody! Probably it has something to do with the swedish Kurds?

mafketis
11 Jul 2023  #1740

I so hope it's not a membership in the EU...

Erdogan doesn't want to be in the EU because he'd have to stop being such a dictator (Turkey is nowhere near close to meeting all kinds of minimum standards).

Probably about kurds in Sweden...

But.... say goodbye to the Baltic Sea and say hello to Lake NATO!

Sucks to be you russia..... (always true but more now than a few days ago).


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