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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



johnny reb
15 Jul 2023  #1861

I heard that Ukraine would be supplied with Bouncing Betty's and toe poppers next.

Korvinus
15 Jul 2023  #1862

Europe, including Germany, would find a hundred reasons why not to defend the US if we were attacked by China

No matter if such attack would hit Poland or not, it would be repelled by Polish army first and foremost.
We're allies, you know. US would only need to ask us, they wouldn't need to start article 5 procedure.

Velund
15 Jul 2023  #1863

We're allies, you know. US would only need to ask us

So, I should expect to see you in the trenches along polish border?

mafketis
15 Jul 2023  #1864

. A little sh*ithole like Estonia can drag us into WW3.

No... it would be the gigantic sh}th0le known as russia that would drag you into WW3.... as soon as russia learns to stop invading its neighbors NATO ends.....

conservatives are for russia what liberals are for criminals.... they just can't find it in their hearts to blame them for their misdeeds and blame their victims and try to shelter the object of their love from harm.....

cms neuf
15 Jul 2023  #1865

An Udmurtian is calling Estonia a ******** ?

Unless we are talking about amateur ****, it is superior to Udmurtia in every aspect - an object lesson in what you could have achieved since 1991 if your "leaders" were not all too busy thieving, murdering and buying handbags for their plastic titted mistresses.

mafketis
15 Jul 2023  #1866

if your "leaders" were not all too busy thieving, murdering and buying handbags for their plastic titted mistresses

would such leaders even be 'russian' in any meaningful sense of the word?

russia could have been an economic and cultural superpower and it consciously chose to throw that away because it wants to be a 19th century empire instead.... collosal stupidity from a country that specializes in collosal stupidity......

Novichok
15 Jul 2023  #1867

There was no need for more in the fighting,

BS, If Poland sent 20,000, the US could have kept 20,000 Americans safe at home.
Do you guys ever think before posting BS?

it would be the gigantic sh}th0le known as Russia that would drag you into WW3

...over Estonia, a little hole in the ground 99.99% of Americans can't place on the map, with less than zero importance to the US.

Suppose Putin goes nuts and invades Estonia. Without that idiotic A5, this item would be at the bottom of the obituary page of NYT. With that idiotic Article 5, the US and Russia would be at war and life as we know it might end on that day. Over fu*cking Estonia!!!

Hey, Russia-hating morons, try to explain why Russia did not invade Finland and Sweden as soon as the snake started crawling toward Russia after 1990?

mafketis
15 Jul 2023  #1868

ussia did not invade Finland and Sweden

Cause they're cowards who only attack those they think are weaker.... Ukraine has disappointed them in that department....

Novichok
15 Jul 2023  #1869

"US spending of 5.6% of its defense budget to destroy

The US military is a bloated bureaucracy with 44 four-star bureaucrats we call generals and admirals - each busy expanding his mission and wasting money on toys they don't need to defend the US. Like aircraft carriers, tanks, and artillery. But it's good for employment and the votes in US Congress. It's self-perpetuating cancer on the American economy, in a desperate and never-ending need to justify its existence. Just like NATO...Same crap...

We could easily trim this pig down from 900 billion to 300 and be just as safe from being attacked by China, our dearest trading partner, and Russia which needs a year to take Bakhmut.

Cause they're cowards who only attack those they think are weaker....

Yes, little silly boy, Russia is weaker than Finland.

Velund
15 Jul 2023  #1870

Yes, little silly boy, Russia is weaker than Finland.

Then why so many spoiled diapers in Brussels and DC goes to trash once Putin saying something?

Novichok
16 Jul 2023  #1871

Then why so many spoiled diapers in Brussels

Reasonable people can debate everything since nothing is all black or all white. Polish Russia haters cannot be debated. Only ridiculed...
They are so stupid... they leave a truck-sized opening in almost every post by accusing Putin and Russia of what US presidents did within our lifetime.

Hey, morons, try to explain why moving a child to safety is a war crime but dropping napalm and agent orange on kids is not...Go ahead, make my day...

cms neuf
16 Jul 2023  #1872

This is a war started by Udmurtia against peaceful Ukraine. What did Ukraine ever do to the Vietnamese ?

And we are talking about vile Nazi crimes today, not what the long dead LBJ ordered 60 years ago

As for Udmurtia being weaker than Finland - well you can have another pop at them. Last time didn't go so well, so this time bring dome ammo and some gas for your crappy vehicles. Oh and pick up some warm clothes at the lumpex LOL

Novichok
16 Jul 2023  #1873

So you're opposed to US intervention in Vietnam but support the russian invasion of Ukraine....

No, it's the other way... Anyone who supported US invasion of Vietnam has no leg to stand on to oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Memo to Polish children who found PF and annoy those with brains...

Ukraine may be "peaceful". It's Ukraine's best buddy that is not.

In fact, that buddy loves wars so much that in his life, only in 8% of it he was not warring somewhere. How else can this addict justify a 900 billion dollar taxpayer ripoff - aka military budget? In peacetime!

Now about that "peaceful". "Peaceful" means the absence of war. The other concept, dear children, is "hostile" as opposed to "friendly".

On Feb 23, 2023, Ukraine was "peaceful" but hostile by being very chummy with the biggest warmonger the world has known, the US and its MIC. When Russia got the whiff of their plans plus the vision of its naval base in Sevastopol falling into the hand of "peaceful" Ukraine as a proxy for the warmonger and its favorite attack dog, NATO, Russia had to act - just as Isreal did in 1967 when it realized that "peaceful" and "hostile" is not going to last and will eventually lead to a war Israel absolutely and positively could not afford to lose. So it hit its "peaceful" and very hostile neighbors first. That's why Isreal is still on the map.

I will be happy to answer any questions, no matter how stupid...

Cookies are over there...

Novichok
16 Jul 2023  #1874

Quoting RT quoting NYT:

The Ukrainian military lost 20% of the equipment it sent to the battlefield during the first two weeks of its counteroffensive, the New York Times reported on Saturday. This high attrition rate was reportedly a key factor in Kiev's decision to pause the operation.

Beginning in early June, Ukrainian forces launched a series of attacks all along the front line from Kherson to Donetsk. Advancing through minefields and without air support, the Ukrainian military lost 26,000 men and more than 3,000 pieces of military hardware, according to the latest figures from the Russian Ministry of Defense.


As we all know from the posts by PF military experts, Ukraine is winning. I wonder what those losses would be if Ukraine was losing.

One thing is for sure...Win or lose, US taxpayers are fu*cked.

mafketis
16 Jul 2023  #1875

the biggest warmonger the world has known, the US

ho be hatein' on the US! ho need to leave!

Novichok
16 Jul 2023  #1876

Only a dumb Polak could come to this conclusion...
Real Americans who love the US as I do want the US out of the war business and the money we spend on bullsh*it - curently known as Ukraine - either saved or used to fix our crumbling bridges or to erect Isreali-class wall to stop THAT invasion. Or on the homeless...or anything other than playing the world's dumbest no-charge cop and Europe's 911 dispatch center.

cms neuf
16 Jul 2023  #1877

Anybody who remembers the US invasion of a Vietnam is now well into their 70s. I would imagine your average Nixon voter is in their 80s.

We are talking about Udmurtian crimes taking place this afternoon.

Novichok
16 Jul 2023  #1878

And I am talking about this simple concept...Since napalm and agent orange did not result in criminal charges against those who authorize both, there is no basis to bs about Russia's "war crimes" in Ukriane and its decision to relocate kids out of harm's way. Vietnam too old for you? Fine. Try Iraq and Afghanistan. You do know that both happened in this century?

Times are different but the war crimes scale is the same and as defined by the Allies after WW2. Creating a new one just for Russia will not work with anyone who knows history.

Your selective blindness is childish and annoying. But since you are Polish it is excusable.

We are talking about Udmurtian crimes taking place this afternoon.

Name them but make sure they were not committed by the US and its "allies" somewhere else or in Ukraine.

mafketis
16 Jul 2023  #1879

napalm and agent orange did not result in criminal charges

Neither did the holodomor or KatyƄ (I know you're a big fan but it was a war crime) or Stalin's purges etc.

That's why russia invaded.... because it has gotten away with killing people en masse for far too long.

Vietnam is irrelevant and a sign that you cannot actually defend the russian invasion....

You've lost this debate.

Velund
16 Jul 2023  #1880

napalm and agent orange did not result in criminal charges against those who authorize both

Nuclear bombs to "mostly peaceful" japanese cities also did not result in criminal charges to those who authorised that. Moreover, brainwashing technologies used on youth cause that half of younger Japanese is believe that it is Russia dropped nuclear bombs to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The other thing that really stresses me out. The tendency used to be that the farther away from Poland an individual infected with Polish genes is, the more determined he is to fight Poland's neighbors to the last Pole. Now a layer from Poland itself is beginning to appear, eager to send its compatriots to be minced to a pulp.... I'm beginning to wonder if the act called "Goat Heights 2.0" will actually be useful for the future of the Poles? Then we can apply Anglo-Saxon techniques and indoctrinate the youth that this was the catharsis of the Polish nation, and it saved hundreds of thousands of Poles from the role of cannon fodder to make some american politicians and its "patrons" a bit richer.

mafketis
16 Jul 2023  #1881

fight Poland's neighbors to the last Pole

Stay in your own lousy stinking country and there won't be any problems....

russian imperialism is over. It's a moral, ethical, economic and social dead end that has crippled the country unnecessarily and drained many/most russians of essential elements of humanity

Novichok
16 Jul 2023  #1882

The sad and weird thing is that Poland is more and more seen by Western Europe - both the governments and the natives - as an American proxy and bully.

Another sad and weird thing is the passivity and subordination of Western Europe to the US MIC - especially Germany, the country that could end this bs if only to protect its own economy. No spine, and no guts to tell the US to GFO and go home.

To prevent peace, warmonger Biden sends his lapdog Johnson to tell Z to forget that damn "peace" that would make the MIC very upset. Wars are good...even if 100,000 Americans die in them...and the country goes broke.

You've lost this debate.

I don't debate women, kids, and Polaks.

But I do know that the US debt is on the way to 40 trillion bucks with zero chance we will ever pay it off...which made all of us, our kids included, slaves in perpetuity.

So take your Polish pride, your hate of Russia, and your slogans and shove them where the sun don't shine.

mafketis
16 Jul 2023  #1883

don't debate women, kids, and Polaks

I'm none of the above, so you debated me and you lost! What's it feel like to be a loser, loser?

shove them

Ho big mad ho lost.

Korvinus
16 Jul 2023  #1884

So take your Polish pride, your hate of Russia, and your slogans and shove them where the sun don't shine.

Great speech, tell it to grandmas, no one's buying.

Soviet Union remained backwards sh*ithole where you couldn't even buy normal clothes for all it's history. To get a phoneline you needed to be very important party dude, some head of department, give a bribe or wait for 10 years. Import products were currency of it's own, banal stuff like plates or spoons were valuable because you cannot buy those. Would be illuminating for current sovok mastrubators who didn't live in Soviet Union. Banal stuff like import perfumes weren't available.

China killed millions of people during communism. Thanks to idiotic policies like 'killing off all sparrows' or whatever silly thing Mao thought up. And only grew like now thanks Den Xiaoping changed course to state capitalism and to capitalist US started building factories and invest in China. And now facing a demographic collapse since one-child policy is coming full circle.

I have to say it. However silly and repeatable arguments you have, arguing with you is at least somewhat entertaining compared to other commies like Bobko and gay Velund.

mafketis
16 Jul 2023  #1885

russia actually all russia-y again

government seizes assets of Danone and Carlsberg still in russia...

obviously sanctions are not having any effect at all....

twitter.com/AFP/status/1680619551803711493

cms neuf
17 Jul 2023  #1886

Well Danone and Carlsberg made only one mistake - they thought they could trust Nazis.

So now as well as losing their reputation by staying in Udmurtia, they lost their money anyway.

Quite a few French investors decided to stay and I can't help thinking Macron was given assurances from the other end of that long table that business was business. Of course that was at the same time that Murderer Putin was denying he would invade peaceful Ukraine

mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1887

I can't help thinking Macron was given assurances

russian assurances = lies..... never believe russians

Crnogorac3
17 Jul 2023  #1888

Dissolve NATO

Member of the Die Linke party in the Bundestag, Sevim Dagdelen, called for the dissolution of NATO because, as she stated, the world needs peace

Whenever there is talk about #NATO , myths are spread. Here are a few simple truths about NATO.
What we need is #peace , not NATO.

From my speech in the German Bundestag on the #Vilnius #Summit .


twitter.com/SevimDagdelen/status/1679075112920707073

Bravo!

Finally someone who is smart.

A rare voice of reason.

mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1889

Riddle time.....

Q: What's 19 km long, cost 3.7 billion dollars, connects occupied Ukraine to the garbage dump known as 'rossija' and got hit by explosives last night?

A: twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1680807636407660544

Luke1410
17 Jul 2023  #1890

Whenever there is talk about #NATO , myths are spread. Here are a few simple truths about NATO.
What we need is #peace , not NATO

Die Linke, a political party co headed by Amira Mohammed Ali. A classic example of the Islamist-leftist alliance, see also Putin and Kadyrov.


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