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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



johnny reb
17 Jul 2023  #1891

Thousands of Ukrainian children have been forcibly deported to Belarus in an alleged war crime that could implicate president Lukashenko.
Over 2,000 Ukrainian children as young as six are estimated to have been taken to at least four camps in Belarus since September 2022, with the number expected to reach 3,000 by autumn this year.

Some are alleged to have been given military training.
Lovely

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1892

Attaching a screenshot below. Nothing unusual, just typical NATO-brigade trolling over the deaths of a child and her parents.

What's unusual is that this behavior is increasingly being called out on Twitter as vile and autistic. Normal people, not infected by Ukraine of the brain, are bewildered at why people would cheer a man getting eaten by a shark or a child being blown up in a car on the road back from vacation.

It's very funny to read the replies of confused Westerners that have really embraced the hate in their hearts over the past 500 days. "Wait, we're the good guys!", "Shooting children that violate international borders is legitimate!", "Ignore - this is a vatnik bot!".

Hahahahaha! It is admirable that there are still some "Christian" supporters of Ukraine, but I'm afraid it's too late.


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cms neuf
17 Jul 2023  #1893

Who on this forum has rejoiced at the death of these civilians today ?

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1894

@cms neuf

PF is a model of compassion and Christian grace.

I remember this well, from the time when a Russian philosopher's daughter was killed by a car bomb.

cms neuf
17 Jul 2023  #1895

She was an adult, a journalist and prominent supporter of the invasion, connected to the regime and a legitimate target.

I have no idea what her Dad's "philosophy" is, but as an older Udmurtian I'm sure it was cooked up over a crate of cheap gut-rot vodka

Anyway wasn't she killed by other Udmurtians ?

Luke1410
17 Jul 2023  #1896

Who on this forum has rejoiced at the death of these civilians today ?

I think perhaps Bobko?? He seems to be secretly delighted with the news...

Hahahahaha!


mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1897

a child being blown up in a car on the road back from vacation.

I'm not happy about the child dying, but..... in your country they justified the death of Liza...

twitter.com/rshereme/status/1549238518198706176

russian propagandist..... "At war, all methods are acceptable. If we do not bomb maternity hospitals, schools, and civilian buildings, we will not be able to win this war."

(and there were lots of russians screaming in delight on telegram about Liza's death...)

Also note that the very long traffic jams full of civilians would have been an easy target for Ukraine... which restrained itself.

And getting back to the bridge... what kind of deranged parents take a child to vacation in a war zone?

I'm afraid it's too late.

And has been for a long time....

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Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1898

Anyway wasn't she killed by other Udmurtians ?

She was killed by agents of the Ukrainian state, which we learned of not from Ukraine, but from America.

The Americans gave a strong "talking-to", to their Ukrainian vassals - for that incident, but also for Nord Stream (regarding which, a German diplomat said "we simply try to avoid this topic") and the attack on the Kremlin. After some initial protestations of innocence, the Ukrainians agreed to comply.

Their next genius move was to unleash Russian-born Nazis on the Belgorod region. Which again caused them to field a myriad panicked calls from places like Brussels and Washington. Tragically - it seems that on both sides, the parties involved have a poor appreciation for what makes the other side really tick.

Few people appreciate, the degree of self control the Ukrainian Nazis exercise in order to keep the flow of Western aid uninterrupted.

mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1899

the Ukrainian Nazis

a russian myth.... stop repeating russian lies.... but I guess you can't help lying compulsively.... russians.... the civilized man's burden....

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1900

the civilized man's burden....

"Wokeism" is the new "civilized man's burden". It will give Russian traditional conservatism a run for its money, when it comes to being burdensome.

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1901

Just a little update for you boys:

In the second month of its counter-offensive, Ukraine is fighting to contain a Russian assault in the Kharkov region.

Very confusing to me. Who is counterattacking again?

cms neuf
17 Jul 2023  #1902

This Udmurtian assault is actually firing a few more old but valuable missiles at civilian buildings.

There won't be any more land offensives by Udmurtia because they can't move troops or tanks to within Himars range, but also because there are at least some generals who know this is senseless slaughter and quite fancy going home to their wives and kids rather than sitting next to Shoigu in the Hague.

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1903

This Udmurtian assault is actually firing a few more old but valuable missiles at civilian buildings

Check the news, will you.

There won't be any more land offensives by Udmurtia

Commander of Ukraine's Eastern Military Command, has reported through his press office, that a Russian grouping consisting of "100,000 men, 900 tanks, and 370 self-propelled guns" has begun an offensive on the Kupyansk direction.

In other words, while the Ukrainians are busy trying to prove to the Americans that they can take land back in Zaporozhye (and are failing spectacularly) - the Russians have begun an offensive of their own to take back territory that was lost to Ukraine in last Fall's Kharkov Offensive.

I don't want to make you too concerned, but this is a larger force than what the Ukrainians have assembled for their "grand counteroffensive".

A reasonable person might say that Ukraine ought to call off it's daring offensive, and focus on shoring up the eastern sectors of the front that are under pressure. But what do I know, I'm just Bobko.

P.S. - Sorry for distraction, carry on waiting for Russia to fall apart into 30 countries. It will happen soon enough, surely.


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Korvinus
17 Jul 2023  #1904

Just a little update for you boys:

-Already over 8,000 APCs and nearly 4500 Russian artillery units destroyed.
-Ukrainian forces are preparing for the counter-offensive in Kherson oblast
-Ukrainian defence forces continue offensive operations in the Melitopol and Berdyansk areas. The last week though, was mostly focused with more careful operations at the frontlines and more precise artillery and missiles hits, destroying Russian command bases and missiles depots in the deeper parts of occupied territories

-These hits include: Sorokine in Luhansk oblast (ammo depot), occupied Luhansk, Berdiansk, Mariupol (artillery ammo depots, MLRS missile warehouses and command centers), Voronezh (Russian territory, ~ 200 km from the border, presumably shells warehouse), Bryansk (military base) and several other temporarily occupied settlements at the Donbas and Zaporizhzhia frontlines

-The commanders of the "Azov" battalion, that were located in Turkey, were returned home by Turkish president Erdogan, despite the "protest" of Putin. All of them will soon join the Azov soldiers at the frontlines again

-Ukraine surpassed Russia in the number of combat-capable tanks. Before the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia had over 5,000 tanks, and now - approxiamtely 1,400. Instead, Ukraine had 987 tanks, and now - approximately 1,500 The gap in artillery and MLRS has also decreased, although less so and Russia still has heavy numbers advantage in this

-Lieutenant-general Oleg Tsokov, one of the highest ranked commanders of Russian armies inside Ukraine, was elimiated via the AFU missile hit at the occupied Berdiansk. Colonel Rzhytsky, commander of a Russian Black Sea fleet submarine, who was giving orders to launch missiles at Ukrainian cities for over a year, was found dead after a morning stroll in his home city of Krasnodar, during his vacation from the submarine. I wonder, what was the reason ‍

-Ukraine returned 45 more POWs from Russian captivity
-The aftermath of a Russian terrorist missile attack on a residential building in Lviv is 10 dead civilians and over 40 injured, including several children
"I do not understand why we should ask our allies whether to hit or not to hit the enemy on its territory" said the commander-in-chief of the AFU, Valery Zaluzhny. "If the allies insist we should not use the weapons they supply us with, to strike the military objects inside Russian territories - then we will do it with our own resources, and we are already doing it", Zaluzhny said.

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1905

@Korvinus

These are wonderful news, but how do they relate to the piece of news I shared which is 10X bigger in importance?

I hope you have given up some time ago on the challenge of making Bobko or Velund emotionally depressed with your copy-pasting of inspiring things you read on the Internet. Save your energy. You do not understand us, seemingly as much as we don't understand you.

Employ facts, and logic, and maybe you will slightly worsen my mood during the day.

mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1906

It's the anniversary of an achievement russians are very proud of.... downing a civilian plane and killing 298 people (had people forgotten?)

Anyway.... here's a nice thread on why nobody with a triple digit IQ believes anything russians say.....

twitter.com/DietmarPichler1/status/1680945179610546177

Bobko
17 Jul 2023  #1907

nobody with a triple digit IQ believes anything russians say

I don't know if I have a triple digit IQ, but I confirmed the news of the Russian offensive on the official page of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1908

, but I confirmed the news of the Russian offensive

russians are only happy when they're attacking people... peaceful coexistence is an alien concept to them.... the world does not need such a country....

mafketis
17 Jul 2023  #1909

the news of the Russian offensive

Let's say this happens.... what possible good result for Ukrainians (or russians) would it bring?

amiga500
18 Jul 2023  #1910

Employ facts, and logic, and maybe you will slightly worsen my mood during the day.

Sure easily done. Read the latest by Girkin, russian a*s being raped will also include by turkey

Sooner or later, the Russian Federation will have to enter into a direct military clash with Turkey on the initiative of the latter. The fighting will take place in Syria, in the Transcaucasus and on the Black Sea.

The direct participation of large contingents of Turkish troops (under the guise of "volunteers" or even without such cover) in operations against our army in Ukraine and Crimea is not ruled out.

twitter.com/natalkakyiv/status/1680971467993890817?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A

Velund
18 Jul 2023  #1911

military clash with Turkey

ekklisianeasilata.com/uk/paisios_en.html

Velund
18 Jul 2023  #1912

PS: The attempt (unsuccessful) of complete isolation of Russia by the countries that abandoned Christian values and began to live according to the laws invented by perverts was also in the prophecies of St. Paisius....

Luke1410
18 Jul 2023  #1913

complete isolation of Russia by the countries that abandoned Christian values

Next you'll be telling us that your great ally Kim Jong Un is actually a Christian freedom fighter... Once you accept the lie that Putin cares about religion you'll accept anything.

mafketis
18 Jul 2023  #1914

This is pretty revealing regarding russian motivations and russian values..... from the husband of Novichok's ideal woman (head of his beloved RT)

youtube.com/watch?v=KZtcwH3rRjw

russia craves respect and in the primitive and violent russian culture respect = fear

russia wants no part of mutually beneficial economic relations.... it wants other countries to be afraid of it

that's it, that's 90% of russian motivation in any foreign policy context

Whatever1410
18 Jul 2023  #1915

@mafketis
It's fairly easy to spot it in almost all their communication attempts and that of even users on this board to install hatred or fear to grow "respect" for Russia.

Vain attempts, due to multiple backstabbing of Poland by Russia historically. Not only once, but multiple times from both left wingers and right wingers in Russia. Centrists have yet to show their best and worse sides, they had their chance in 1917, blew it, then in 1991 and blew it. Perhaps they will succeed soon? Who knows, at least they are Russia's hope to improve relations with Poland, Europe and U.S.A.

They are the only ones to pull Russia out of this swamp of problems they got now on their hands, making them fear doing anything only prevents Russia from doing what's best for Russia instead of worst

mafketis
18 Jul 2023  #1916

How did an Irish component by Tillotson end up in an Iranian Shahed (martyr) drone dropped on Mykolaiv Ukraine?

Most likely this is a salvaged part but it could be russia/iran getting around sanctions.... let's hope the Irish public steps up and demands answers...

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1681284343778492420/photo/1

cms neuf
18 Jul 2023  #1917

theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/18/russian-human-rights-abuses-took-place-in-izium-ukraine-investigation-finds

Just one step in the process of bringing Udmurtian drunk thugs to justice. It will take years but it will be done

johnny reb
18 Jul 2023  #1918

The Russians can't hold a candle to them.

OR......... L.B.J. or Dick Cheney !
When russia comes back with a bigger punch then was given to them they suddenly become bullies.

cms neuf
18 Jul 2023  #1919

I have said on many occasions that Iraq was an illegal invasion and I opposed it at the time - marched in the street

Afghanistan was different - probably justified

And Kosovo, absolutely no doubt a legal intervention to prevent ethnic cleansing

This Udmurtian war is some thing different- a colonial war of conquest, with atrocities and deliberate bombing of civilians in a 1942 style.

mafketis
18 Jul 2023  #1920

russian plane crashed in yeysk on the azov sea... the pilot ejected but ended up dying.....

now russians on telegram are bvtthurt that none of the people on shore seemed to care, they just kept on drinking beer and swimming even though there were a lot of jet skis around and an enterprising person could have reached the pilot and helped bring him to shore....

this is the result of conscious russian government policy for 20 years telling people to stay out of politics and don't look out for each other and if you do show initiative you'll be punished....

svkks to be russian....

twitter.com/clashreport/status/1681256017286381569

as for the pilot, I won't say I'm happy he died but at least he won't be attacking any Ukrainian civilians now....


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