Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

Zelensky is trying to act smart in front of his boss.

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Did the Ukro offensive start? Reality?

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This is what best describes Bakhmut

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And the dumbass clown made this out of it, probably pulled in the white stuff too much, then there was no going back, it all went up in the air.

The last 9 entries were made here by russian trolls and Novi. Do we really want to let these savages ( and Novi) take over this thread?

You are free to post how Ukraine is winning and how proud you are witnessing the deaths and destruction there because Z obediently followed what the warmongering a-holes in the DC and Londonstan told this stupid tool to do.

All Russia wanted was a piece of paper that could have been signed in April of 2022. That, however, would reduce the US MIC profits to zero and not weakened Russia. Not good.

Peace is a dirty word in the DC.

Nobody is winning in this war.

Ukraine, however, can count on the help of the entire Free World. Russia can count on some pats on the back from North Korea and Iran, and on a knife in the back from China when proper time comes. A rather sad affair all in all really.

This war will be remembered as the crime of the century by the Western "democracies" against Ukraine.
You all knew from moment one that Russia will not let it slide once the real shooting started. Repeatedly, Russia said clearly and without ambiguities that NATO in Ukraine is unacceptable just as much as the Warsaw Pact would not be in Canada or Mexico.

The blood spilled by the Ukrainians is on your hands. Germany and other Euro countries carry enough weight to tell the US to shove it, push for an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, protect the pipeline from sabotage, keep your economies humming, and the Russian fuel flowing.

Instead, you Euros played along with the DC-London axis and against your own interests. That's what happens to useful idiots with amazing regularity.


GK, thanks for being the voice of reason here.


And a preventable one, too.
I have never been more consistent than in this case. For this, I was called a surrender boy or something...

By Russia, yes. Last page we had someone quoting the chef of Wagner that they are taking no prisoners. Which as you may recall, is a war crime.


As pointed out before, that is a nonsensical strawmen argument. If the USA had invaded Canada, it would have been guilty of the same kind of agression as Russia is.


Which is why Scholz and Macron went to Moscow and told Putin that they would veto any Ukraine NATO membership like they did in the past.

If NATO membership had been the issue, Putin would have taken that as a monumental diplomatic win and deescalate. But since the real issue is his imperialistic view on Ukraine and his desire to go down in history as a conqueror like Peter the Great, he invaded.

Russia is solely responsible for this war and Russia is commiting war crime after war crime. No manner of deflection, repetition, lying or strawmanning from you will change this.

Hey, C3, thanks for that video in #243.


A German "would" is not good enough. Unless signed by the US it's worth less than the toilet paper I used this morning.

BTW, there is something very disturbing in German weapons killing Russians. My advice to you is to stay away from this thread or grow a pair and tell your American guests to go home and never come back.

you misspelled 'russia'....


Blood spilled by the Ukrainians is just. Every dead russia brings them closer to freedom from the empire of garbage and theft....


Or wrong, since people with far more knowledge of russia than you invariably cite NATO at most as a secondary justification and not a primary reason.....

Do you enjoy being wrong? It seems to be a special hobby of yours or something....

Don't even bother...I will not waste my time on you.

Bakhmut fell on the anniversary of the fall of Mariupol 😁

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Victors champagne 🍾🥂

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No, it didn't. Ukrainian defense ministry still confirms that their units are fighting in Bakhmut.


Anniversary? How can there be any "anniversary" in a 3-day blitzkrieg? A time-space anomaly? :)

A serial liar.

Who to believe. President Zelensky who has always told things as they are or Pighozin and Lavroll who have always lied.

Well Putin will soon be on his way to shake hands with some grateful local pensioners (weirdly familiar faces) in the middle of the night. What more proof could you want ?

Lol, if you had attention span longer than an average goldfish, you'd remember Severodoneck last year. Ukrainians also defended it stubbornly. And they also evacuated the city when defending it was no longer possible.

Did it break Ukrainian morale? Not at all. Right after retreating from Severodoneck they conducted two successful offensives (Kharkiv and Kherson) and... started an even more stubborn defence of Bakhmut against a Russian push. Did so for another nine months btw.

Why would Bakhmut defence break Ukrainian morale again? They have another defensive line just west of the ruins of the town, up the hills. And soon their own counteroffensive begins.

ROTFL. War doesn't work that way and I'm sure even dumb Ruskie like you knows that. You cannot tap the map and say "it's mine, you cannot take it back".

Cut the crap and ask yourself if Russia will ever fold and give up its territory because it got tired. Throwing Ukrainian names around will not change one damn thing.


You, Poles, are not fixable. Even Z admits he doesn't have enough and the US is running out of money and patience. We can't even pay our own bills. And those damn elections in 2024...

I know it's frustrating to bet on a nearly dead horse. That was a Polish metaphor. So let me help you with your torment...

Even with NATO as a supplier, Ukraine is not the US, and Russia is not Iraq.


You, Poles, love that future dateless tense...

Why? Germany has vetoed Ukraine's membership in the past and had kept its' agreements with Russia. Same for France. It even kept on defending NSII over US objections. There was not even much appetite for Ukraine membership in NATO on the American side to begin with.


It is also very disturbing to read about Russian bombs killing Holocaust survivors.


Why not? It happened a lot of times in the past. Not to mention that leaving Ukraine in the borders of 1994 would not mean surrendering any Russian territory (since any annexation by Putin is legally null and void).

Frankly, I don't even know why I am bothering...

OK. so one day Germany will not veto and, instead, will send an email to Moscow with:
Sorry, guys, not this time...

Are you a child or what?


Name one part of Russia or the USSR somebody took from them by force.

FYI, CDL is part of the Russian Federation and even Putin has no authority to make gifts out of them.

The Island North of Japan.

The Amur River territories.

An unnamed rock worth nothing vs Ukraine...Hmm...Another Euro weasel in action...

@Novichok
You asked I answered

Anything may happen eventually. That is not an argument why agreements could be disregarded when the ones making them have adhered to them in the past. No one was pushing for Ukraine to join NATO, even the USA made it clear in 2021 that this was not a realistic prospect.

Suppose there is a peace treaty between Russia and Ukraine, confirming the status quo and ruling out NATO membership for Ukraine. What kind of value would the latter have for Russia if such promises can not be trusted anyway? That leaves total subjugation of Ukraine as the only lasting solution from Russia POV. Which in return would of course be completely indefensible.


Brest-Litovsk, the Russian-Japanese war. The dissolution of the UdSSR (which Russia did try to supress with violence e.g the Baltics) comes also to mind.


They aren't. Just the same way Kherson is not part of Russia despite the "annexation". Unless confirmed by a treaty from Ukraine, they are not legally part of Russia, not even by Russian law (which of course current Russian law-makers are ignoring). Which is the kind of argument Putin or his successor will eventually use to justify returning them to Russia.

Not good enough. Putin is very much aware that the USSR naively gave away the store in 1990 when they were told NATO would not go East in exchange for releasing East Germany.

Not anymore. Russia will not trust Western scum anymore and assure no-NATO compliance on its own.

....and Ukraine was naive in giving up their nukes, the USSR stationed there, for peace and good words. I guess they are regretting that move mightily now!

looks like its been fully liberated from the forces of global faggotry

BREAKING. BAKHMUT IS FULLY CAPTURED BY WAGNER PMC UNITS

Today, May 20, 2023, at 12:00 local time, units of the Wagner PMC successfully completed their storming of Bakhmut, one of the key resistance sites of the Ukrainian army in Donbass.

By this time, the last section of the high-rise apartment complex, known as "Airplane," had been taken.

The operation to capture Bakhmut lasted 224 days. The head of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, stated that Bakhmut was liberated solely by the company's fighters.

Prigozhin said that "they fought both the Ukrainian army and the Russian military bureaucrats who were putting sticks in their wheels". He accused Russian Defense Minister Shoigu and Chief of General Staff Gerasimov that "five times as many soldiers died as they could have because of their whims".

On May 25, the Wagner PMC would begin to withdraw its units for rest and retraining, Prigozhin said. Positions in Bakhmut will be transferred to units of the Russian Armed Forces

Better with a faggot than with a Wagner.