Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

I would not say this if I were you.

lol! It doesn't mean we are the same, just enough that I can understand him well enough.

xD

This thread goes from mud-slinging match to heart-warming humanity display and then to pure comedy in an instant. It is a bit too much of a roller-coaster for me hahahah.... and I'm taking my family shopping anyways, so see you later, guys.

I'd guess that there's an element of either "controlled opposition", scapegoating, or both here.

There's some very good news right now. Dragonfire (lovely name!) laser weapons, basically artillery without the need for ammunition have been publicly tested in the U.K.

The weapons can " safely control and focus a high power laser onto an extremely precise point at long range."

Given that the test is a public one, it's fair to assume that the weapons are further developed than just the test stage.

Perhaps they will see their first operations in the defence of Ukraine.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-dragonfire-laser-weapon-test-fired-in-the-uk/

I know and I have been thinking what a lost chance. Poland during communist times had very advanced research on lasers ( for the time)but Moscow told them to shut it down. Thinking if there had been continuation... well.

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Perhaps.

Maybe there's expertise from PL in the team that created them.

Call me selfish. however I'm thinking a lot about the jobs manufacturing them and the revenue from selling them.

Maybe, also the US has that program well-developed too.
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That is what always annoys me. We have good intentions, brilliant people, mind-bending possibilities, and no domestic industry, capital, and environment to produce it and develop it in the country. Even if we do, some foreign c. with capital and connection walks in and takes over. F that!

@Ironside
US Navy has operational LASERS on battleships that have already been used to shoot down missilies. Offensively I wouldnt know what they are capable of, but you would have to assume there is some use or capability. Poland could really become a manufacturing powerhouse for a lot of military items. All over this country are old factories and warehouses not even being used. Imagine putting them to use and the jobs it could create.

Yes. Much better do to it in-house than with foreign capital. Important to keep vultures like Raytheon well away.

Two good things are that Dragonfire costs £10 to use and does not require ammunition and that the patents and production are all within the U.K.; a genuinely European project and by far the most advanced of its type in the world.

Ditto!
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the obvious things are apparent.

One of Germany's still influential former politicians mentioned in a talkshow, rather casually, that a financial support for Ukraine's rebuilding after the war will cost Germany a few billions....does that also goes in the case of a russian victory??? I wonder....

Its funny how that polamkrakow guy is acting like some american hick from Oklahoma when hes clearly a polak in disguise trying to be "Umerican" lol like how they all act as immgirant sin the us of a the land of the free and the grvae before realizing everyone hates them and doesnt even consider them much fo euroepans or white. bro you aint american alright. and you did a 180 turn on russia now claiming usa which started this adventure by propping them up should back away lol before claiming how theyre gonna win etc. also america is only gonna lose more allies if they let their adventure fail.

@natomember
NY born and raised coxucker. Never stopped saying I hope Ukraine wins. Have been saying for over a year that Z cannot be trusted. US isnt getting a return on investment, so you stop investing and thats the American Way. No go find some towel head to love.

Hey, Euro-holes, here is your chance to shine...Go ahead and prove PAK wrong. I am all eyes...

I already did. Can't you f*cking read?

If America f*cks off from Europe, which you - PF trumpist b*tches - have been moaning and whining about for ages, the EU will finally be able to ally ourselves to Russia and the rest of BRICS. Who says we have to go to war against them by default? Surely they wouldn't mind having a rich and still quite powerful ally with half a billion people. So, go ahead - make my day arseholes and finally f*ck off already. This way the Eurasian continent - the place where the world's history is made - will finally be free from American influence and BRICS-EU will turn into the most powerful alliance in the world's history.

Meanwhile, the US can go into splendid isolation and develop their own version of Juche under their Great Leader Kim Dzong Trump.

Happy gulag b*tches!

Or maybe (just maybe), you perfect bunch of retards extraordinaires, it will finally dawn on you that the only reason that there is any hostility between Russia and Europe is that we are defending American strategic interests, and that without us you are nothing but Mexico with nukes (with the added bonus of dollar turning into a toilet paper). Sure, we are doing it in our best interests also - the Chinese are hardly our dream allies and the price we would have to pay Russia would probably be rather steep and include turning my country into an insignificant province of a culturally alien empire (the Chinese would eventually dominate it), but perhaps it is not too high a price to pay to finally not hear your b*tching and moaning.

Oh, and one more thing:

yes, idiots, being the world's only superpower and having huge political influence all over the world costs money!

Well, surprise-f*cking-surprise! 0_0

God, give me patience.

Important note: I am not talking to Americans in general. I am talking to a bunch of PF trumpist b*tches.

Welcome back Crow. :-)

I'll take that as a compliment, Johnny.

By the way - where is my dobri brat? :(

then why do propagandists publicly m@sterbate about the idea?

twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1748751902576120052

twitter.com/hryashetvorobka/status/1748040178252578943

russia is not a free speech zone.... if they're in russia publicly saying this it means the government wants them to

and I'm still waiting to see russians do anything except "stand behind the kremlin"....

russia wants war with NATO because russia can't really grow in peacetime... too much corruption and russian life has too little appeal to others...

euractiv.com/section/global-europe/opinion/a-letter-from-a-russian-friend/

" The Russian invasion of Ukraine is so brutal and ruthless because this is where the fate of the so-called "Russian world" is decided, writes Orhan Dragaš.

Dr Orhan Dragaš from the International Security Institute is the author of the books "Two faces of globalisation - truth and deceptions" and "Post-Truth in South-East Europe".

I received a short letter from a friend from Russia with a request to publish it, hoping that at least part of the world public will hear a Russian voice whose opinion differs from the narrative dictated by the Kremlin. Of course, he can't publish his views in his country because the danger of reprisal is real. Here is the letter:

"Nowadays, many are wondering what happened to Russia and how to solve it. Let me explain to you that nothing happened to Russia. You are witnessing "normal" Russia. Russia has always been like this and will remain so as long as Russia is Russia.

Russian nationalism was always present in Russian society, even during the Soviet days. Just like people in America have degrading jokes about rednecks, similarly, even during the Soviet days, the people from the Russian republic of the USSR had many insulting jokes about people from Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus, and the minorities that were a part of the Russian republic of the USSR.

Russian society has always been anti-Semite and chauvinist and has had resistance and prejudice against all different and alien ethnicities and nations. The unity was always held with force and terror was always imposed by the government. All territories that now comprise Russian Federation were acquired by force, bribery, or both. Imperial Russia added more territories, Soviet Russia added more territories, and today's Russia is adding territories.

A few examples: Imperial Russia occupied north Caucasus tribes, Russia occupied Chinese territory, and Soviet Russia attacked and seized Finnish territories.

What today's Russia does in Ukraine is the same as what Soviet Russia did in Finland. Russia was and still is an occupier.

Russia cannot be a decent democratic state because a decent democratic state will not be able to hold the territories Russia already has.

Russia attacked Ukraine dominantly because Russia needed to exercise the Russian world narrative. The current Russian doctrine perceives Ukraine as a breakaway region that must remain under Russian control. If Ukraine succeeds in escaping Russian dominance, other regions and republics like Kazan and North Caucasus might try the same.

The global community must understand that ongoing madness and aggression will only grow if Russia succeeds in Ukraine. Russia will not stop. Russia can only be stopped.

The West must stop Russia in Ukraine, and the West must disintegrate Russia, so that Russia will not attack ever again."

The author of this letter, my friend Sergei, is swimming against the current, and his views on Russia are completely different from the opinions of the vast majority of his compatriots. More than 80% of them support Putin's aggression against Ukraine and their army's crimes against the Ukrainian people. But that does not make Sergei a lesser patriot, on the contrary. He is just a free man, unlike most."

no lies detected....

It's as if they've never moved on from those times.

And that made you happy or sad? Skip the fake concern and be honest...

In the meantime, while jon is trying to decide...

It's Washington, not Kiev, that's interested in the continuation of the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Republican US Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has said.

"Zelensky is asking for peace talks in Switzerland and the warmongers in Washington are desperately trying to fund $60 billion to keep the war in Ukraine going. This is sick," she wrote.

It's a win-win...MICC makes money while Ukrainians do the dying part. I am so proud...We should be doing more of it....You know...wars are good for the economy...and arts...

because russia invaded a peaceful ally because that's what russia does.... and you side with it because they manifest your latent violent fantasies.... (you are soooo transparent).

So, what is your solution Rich?

My only problem is that the US is spending money it does not have on a war that has nothing to do with the US and its security.

As I already said, Europe can go to hell. MCC is making money, and suckers are dying.
So what is the problem you want the solution to?

A big chunk of the EU was once already aligned with Russia. Yeah, that didnt work out so good. But hey, we still have some great milk bars. High quality living there eh boys? Maybe some Baltika #3 to replace some Polish beer? The EU aligning with Russia and BRICS is as natural as an Aligator fvcking a chicken, sooner or later the chicken is dinner.

But who is the alligator and who is the chicken here? 🤔

@Alien
The EU would absolutely be the chicken. For all the reasons we love Poland and most of the EU, BRICS nations and Russians want to posses it. History, art, culture, and all the romance that Europe projects. The middle eastern towel heads have always been envious. Russia has always been envious, and always wondered why not Russia. The invasion of the islamic hourde in Europe would be overwhelming and swift. The disdain that arabic men have for European and white men in general can only be truely understood when going to an Islamic nation. Most Europeans would tell all of them to FO if they ever went to the middle east in a real islamic culture. There is no way Europe would invite any of them in.

@PolAmKrakow
Have you spent much time in the Islamic world?