Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9

I just read your FT article, did you look at the pretty pictures? Russian gas exports to Europe have fallen to 390 bcm from 450! Not much of a replacement. Gas is still flowing through the Trans-Siberian Pipeline and Ukraine is still getting a cut of the revenue.

LMFAO union jobs? WTF are you talking about. Black Rock, State Street, JP Morgan Chase are not hiring anyone in any union to do anything. These are the union breakers, these are the bankers and big money that the socialists hate, but will have to bow down to. Really thats just fvcking hilarious.

Yep, absolutely crushing Russia with those losses, Pipeline through Ukraine still wide open and Ukraine getting paid to let Russian gas flow. Why hasnt anyone blown that pipeline up? Russia must just be crimbling as they exported 750 million in gold to Turkey last month. Just crippling the Russian gold mines with sky rocketing costs of gold. These sanctions did one thing. Provided more money to the US gas industry.

What happens when Ukraine doesnt get C, D and L back? All those reconstruction financing packages disappear. Poof! Nothing to reconstruct. No new jobs at all. This continuing war benefits no one in Ukraine.

What about 3 and X?


While russian victory would be far worse..... or have you forgotten....

twitter.com/69th_pigeons/status/1757488997000003704

It's only possible to negotiate with rational actors and russia is not motivated by rational concerns...

Real unions and not in your country where workers' rights are shockingly poor.


We aren't talking about parasitic bankers.

The war has been pretty good so far for communities with the right sort of industrial base in the U.K., in France and Germany and in other major arms and aerospace manufacturing countries.

Less of the 'libertarian' sh1t. There's a reason why your prisons are so full of 'businesspersons' and traders (know any?) and a reason why communities with strong workers' rights and high wages are better places to live.

What is that whining about The US? The war in Ukraine is good for American business and doesn't make the US poorer or worse off.

All the ills and issues you lot complain about in the US are of the domestic doing, your people have done to yourselves, no matter what you call them Dems, Banks, Gates, Musk, it is there were lies the problems not in the Ukrainian war. It should be simple to grasp for anyone with more than two brain cells between ears.

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If anything that war is not good for Poland economically. Other than that it is good in the way that Russia and Ukraine fight each other, I just wait for when inbreeding Ukrainians rather than blame their corrupt fallen state will blame Poland for the lost war.

We need to get our nukes pronto! AS well as nuclear plants and CPL, unfortunately, Tusk and his lame government don't want to do it.

Avdiivka has been attacked sice Russian first attempt to capture Donbass in 2014. It's been under heavy attack since the beginning of the full scale war. Current assault lasted for many, many months and costed Russians tens of thousands of casualties.

How much Ukrainian territory Russians took since the start of their winter offensive? 0,3% or perhaps it's 0,4% already? 200 metres here, 400 metres there...
Remember to wipe your mouth after you sip all the Russian cu*m from the Azov Sea.


Putin offing Navalny just like that, right before the Russian "elections"?

It's either a demonstration of blatant arrogance or...

Very true.

IIRC some years ago you were convinced that Poland needed to regain lost territories like Lwów and Wilno..... do I misrecall?

If not, do you still want that?

Not necessarily Wilno, that would be only an option if the Lithuanian government would treat Poles there as second-class citizens.
Lwow should belong to Poland that is obvious but I don't see a way so far how to get it without the Ukranian population that lives there.

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They have been singing the same song in Afganistan just changed the name of a place.
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@mafketis
I didnt know we were doing algebra. It is possible to negotiate with everyone. Thats the point of negotiating.

@jon357
When banks do the hiring, the write the contracts. The banks will use US companies for the rebuilding, and Ukraine people will get the lowest paying jobs. Still better than the bull$hit pay in Ukraine. Fvcking workers rights? Nothing but an old commie would say these things. Or a rebranded socialist. You ger what you earn and deserve. Dont like it, FO.

Dont you have a pre teen boy to groom coxucker?

How do you know it was Putin?

So, according to a Polish moron, Putin went to a Siberian gulag, asked to meet Navalny, and with the guards and his Secret Service guys right there, he choked N to death for no reason whatsoever since N was already rendered harmless in his gulag cage.

Polish stupidity has no bounds and Poles are not capable of shame.

Dear Lord, I want to thank you again for giving me the wisdom to leave Poland and the many morons there...I still would still like to know why you allowed them to follow me all the way to this American forum to pis* me off...

No - Putler made a phone call to some pathetic pygmy who will follow any orders, however immoral

The pygmy complied because disobedience might be fatal

That's how Udmurtia works - all day, every day

You can try, but if one side is not rational.... don't expect any good results...

@mafketis
I am not saying to expect anything. Go in with an open mind. Remember where things were two years ago when negotiations broke off and see whats changed. How does that hurt anyone? There are people I dont like in the world, people I wouldnt want to do business with by choice, but if there is a deal that benefits my employees without damaging my company, I have to look at it. Thats just responsible leadership. Saying no, without talking is not leadership.

why don't you go To #putuin and do what you are dreaming about all day long, S his cock. Are you dumb? Yankee doodle there is no more pathetic moron on this Earth than A yank yapping about great Russia and tough Putin, you Fackart should just move to Russia and live there as a Russian citizen for life. What a plank geez!

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No, it wasn't Putin it was Biden or Trump or CIA agent Noviccock!
How do you know it was not Putin you tool?

@PolAmKrakow

The only negotiation that makes sense is negotation with security guarantees.

Proposal one: After new borders are established make it clear that _any_ violation of those borders is tantamount to declaring war against NATO/the US (whichever is scarier).

Anything else is jsut giving russia breathing room before attacking again better armed which is a good idea, because...... ??????

How would "pygmy" know it's Putin? It could be some azhole in Poland self-identifying as Putin. Oops...

Also, if you were that pygmy, wouldn't you ask: President Putin, respectfully, why do you want N killed since he is already locked up here in a cage with zero chance of escaping?

Spoon-feeding Polish idiots is so tiring...Where the fvck are the PF Russians?

clearly disoriented by this latest turn and not sure what's safe to say in public......

Another idiot in action...Yes, why not have a war with Russia because a couple of them "violated those borders"...I am so glad we have those ICBMs at the ready...

Which one of you, you, cymes, or Iron, want to be the king of Polish idiots? Let me know before midnight. In the meantime, take one Alprazolam...

@mafketis
Ok, so thats a place to start. But I am a no on NATO membership. EU can give security guarantees.

If EU gives security guarantees then russia ends up attacking NATO...

What securities? How does one "give security"?

This works.

However, something makes me doubt that any American leader would we willing to enter into such an entanglement.

Taiwan is infinitely more important to the United States, than Ukraine, and yet the diplomatic framework of the past 40 years has been that of "strategic ambiguity".

Before that, the United States simply decided that it was more important to develop relations with Communist China, and revoked its recognition of Taiwan and moved its embassy from Taipei to Beijing.

Then, in the 1980s, it was leaked that Taiwan had a secret nuclear program - like Israel and Apartheid South Africa. The United States promptly came in and through use of ultimatums got Taiwan to shut the program down. Basically - an earlier version of the Budapest Memorandum.

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Given that a Chinese conquest of Taiwan would actually spell very serious economic troubles for the US (unlike the fall of Ukraine), and yet the US still refuses to provide overt security guarantees - tells me that there's a snowball's chance in hell that the US will underwrite Ukrainian security.

Hey, Bobko, being logical and rational never sells here. In the meantime...

Alexei Navalny's tearful widow Yulia meets EU officials after accusing the Kremlin of killing her husband using Novichok at Arctic gulag

This brilliant woman went to that "Arctic gulag", performed the autopsy, and discovered Novichok - all while the guards were watching in amazement.

Apparent suicide is too complicated for the Russians and that's why only Americans know how to stage it. Novichok is a lot simpler and almost undetectable.

They don't though, do they...

Banks don't do 'hiring' at European defence manufacturers.


They need to be worn down as far as possible before there can be any talks.

Of course in any negotiations what I'd paramount is the areas of currently occupied territory that r*SSia would withdraw from and the extent of the reparations to cover the damage and loss of life they have inflicted.


Taiwan is of course to an extent Chinese whereas Ukraine is not r*ssian.

It would not be a bad thing if Taiwan were to return to the control of the mainland.


Memories of your time in the prison showers?

Not everybody is a useless faggot.

You dream of it, don't you. You hardly make a post about mentioning it.

This thread is however about r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked occupation of Ukraine.

It was good to read that 17000 orcs (plus 30,000 injures, hopefully horribly) will no longer be able to cause damage to Ukraine.

I wonder if r*SSi can make Ladas fast enough.

Now, the important thing is for all frozen r*SSian assets to be transferred to Ukraine.

I think someone needs to tell Novichok how political murder in dictatorships usually work.

He may be surprised to learn that Stalin did in fact not go the KGB torture chambers and personally shoot his opponents in back of the the head during the Great purges. Nor did Hitler go to the KZs to lead the victims into the gas chambers himself for that matter.

Putin made the decision to have Navalny (and many others) murdered while sitting in his bunker and his goons carried out the order.

Did you talk him to death?