Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Are French Foreign Legion Troops Already in Ukraine ?
I think so for some reason.
Brits can't stand to be out done so they will no doubt be sending their troops next.

By the way, "troop" sounds in Russian the same as word for dead body. ;)

One thing is certain...Slavs are not as evil as the Brits, Dutch, French, Spaniards, Portuguese, and Germans.
All of them were colonizers thousands of miles away. Slaves were not.

the US didn't lose that war - it just became largely unpopular at home and the US just (gradually) withdrew their personnel (this is as much a I have gathered from various media throughout the years)

also the North Vietnamese/Viet Kong casualties of the war were hmm... much higher than those American

None of what you mentioned matters.
The US lost because it didn't win. The reasons don't matter.

Remember the floods around Orenberg?

Did anyone think russia would do anything to help those affected? ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!

twitter.com/PolitsturmInter/status/1785317735712387131

Some people decided to cry to the tsar to ask for help...

twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1788096262580957330

Why would any sane person want to adopt such a retarded socio-political system?

No wonder Ukrainians are done with russians and their endless cycle of victimization by the government, crying and begging the tsar for help....

No dignity in russia....

Western-oriented Ukraine would have motivation to improve itself to be admitted into the structures of the West.
In the early 90s Ukraine and Poland were economically on a similar level. If 30 years later Poland turned out to be 3 times more prosperous, it is thanks to this very motivation. To join the EU Poles had to work hard, lower corruption, fix our institutions or build them from 0, introduce many new laws, leave behind the communist legacy.

The same process can happen in Ukraine. Its society finally made up its collective mind about the direction it wants to pursue. Political will is there and after the war it can be put to good use.

It does not 100% guarantee success, but western perspective sure is a powerful motivator.

It was happening... the invasion was all about trying to stop it. A neighbor with a largely russian speaking population reaping the benefits of western affiliation and regularly holding clean elections.... that's far more dangerous to the Kremlin model than mere NATO....

@Korvinus
Ukraine is not going to change like Poland did. They are still essentially Russian in their ways. Change is hard, Poles lead the change in the 90s. Ukraine has largely stood frozen in time.

Funny how no one is talking about the plot to kill Z that Ukraine allegedly foiled. Or about the Russian soldier caught in Poland. Two pretty big stories.

I do not hate Russia. There is no doubt Putin and company are a gas station with Nukes. And he is a sad, sick arsehole. Nothing the West does is going to make Regime Change though.

Russia is kidding itself if they think directly fighting NATO is anything remotely like fighting a corrupt, weak Ukraine. It would be a horrible case of a beaten down Russia. Ukraine is using our cast off junk and Russia is having problems.

And Russia IS burning through their war reserves. In another 2 years; Russia will be pulling T-34/85's out of museums to send to Ukraine. Their production of capitol pieces like tanks, aircraft and ships is not enough to replace it with new shiny equipment.

It is not realistic for Russia to just keep going like now either.

I think at some point you have to acknowledge Russia keeps Crimea and the Donbass.

I thought you had found Ukrainians and russians to be very different as employees.... what changed?

I concur

youtube.com/watch?v=Hs7pb5uHg5E

One of the Orenburg victims is this Lord HawHaw who runs a youtube channel, not as hilarious as Russell but still someone who refuses to criticize the North Nigerian authorities even as he stands in front of his wrecked home. Poor sap, still I don't blame him for keeping his mouth shut as he doesn't want to go out of a window anytime soon.

Increased military activity over southern Poland.
Quote:
The Operational Command stated, "Polish and allied aircraft alternate patrols over the airspace of Poland, which may result in increased noise levels, particularly in the southeastern part of the country. Tonight, there is observed intensive activity of long-range aviation of the Russian Federation, which is conducting missile strikes on targets within Ukraine. All necessary procedures to ensure the safety of Polish airspace have been initiated."

Once non-nuclear country join NATO, it it is not really non-nuclear country anymore. It is only conditionally non-nuclear territory under a central command that have nukes in their disposal.

@mafketis
I should have been more clear. I mean in their ways of governing, corruption, and things of this nature. The regular folks are quite a bit different.

Now Lithuania says its prepared to send soldiers to Ukraine for training. Another fvcking retard leader of another potential Russian target is speaking out of their a$$. The time for this kind of talk wars two years ago. Everyone should have told Vlad, if he does it he has to faceall of Europe. But no one had the balls then. And now they are just stupid.

He chose to move to russia... no sympathy for that stupid fvkker....


Did Belgrade break a mirror? China's economy is... not good and it's not going to be getting any better soon under Xi's cack-handed mis-management.

And you chose to move to Communist Poland, when it was still occupied by soviet union/russia. Glasshouses and all that..

No I only moved (in stages it wasn't a one time thing) in the 1990s well after the end of communism.

The internationally recognized borders were set up in 1991 when Ukraine went independent and were recognized by everyone, including Russia. They are still the internationally recognized borders today.

Those were the same borders as at the start of 2014 before Russia invaded Crimea and then the Donbass. No one (except for maybe Belarus or North Korea, I haven't checked recently), recognizes Russia's annexation in 2014 or the Donbas secession.

This is pretty basic information about this conflict. I hope that clears up any confusion you might have had.

Either there is such a thing as self-determination or not.
Answer this question before lecturing us on the concept of "internationally recognized borders"

No. Sevastopol remained unresolved till last day, Russia never recognized it ukrainian, as it was never handed to ukraine using due legal procedure. It was in union subordination at level of ukrainian ssr itself, together with Moscow city, and no way related to ukraine.

If he is that because he wants buffers for Russia, what are the US presidents who found a threat to the US in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Panama, Grenada, Libya, Syria, and every craphole where the US has guys with guns...with the average distance to the US of 5000 miles.

Those Iraqi ICBMs must have been really scary...

Hmm... sounds rather complicated.

Nevertheless, despite such complicated definitions, our action corresponding to your nukes remains unaltered in relation to the previously defined way of conduct towards the abovementioned weapons (i.e. we sh*t on them).

...and should be assumed to be nuclear...Just as guns should always be assumed to be loaded.


Do you know what this means?

Yes, I know what it means. It means that they can use them on us but still we won't give in to their threats. Being alive is generally preferable to being dead, in majority of cases, but being dead is always preferable to being an alive coward. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ryszard.

Anyways, all this recent talk about Russia seriously considering testing/using nukes and the American unwillingness to help Poland acquire our own nuclear weapons led my sharp analytical mind to the conclusion that American army might as well leave Poland.

I think we all agree that if Russia uses nuclear weapons against Poland, America is not going to respond in kind for fear of triggering the end of the world. Fair enough. However, it also means that...

1. In case of Russian nuclear attacks -- tactical, strategic or both -- Poland is going to lose; no bravery can defeat nuclear explosion, I'm afraid, and in such case the presence of American units is not going to change anything. Ergo, they can leave.

2. In case of Russian conventional attack, we will own them the way that no b*tch has ever been owned in the long and fruitful history of prostitution, and in such case the presence of American units is not going to change anything. Ergo, they can leave.

... why pay horrendous amounts of money for the upkeep of American bases in Poland if they are completely and utterly useless when the sh*t hits the fan? We should keep strengthening our forces (even, as Sikorski said, if we have to eat grass), so that we are prepared for case 2 (there's nothing much we can do in case 1) and kindly ask our dear American friends and allies to change their geographical location.

Russia proved, over and over again in the last two years, that the USA can be nuclearily blackmailed. This renders them useless as military allies. Perhaps they can still be useful for us in weapons supply or political/economic terms, but as far as the direct military matters are concerned, they're useless. The fall of Afghanistan gave us a lot of material for analysis but it was the Russian invasion of Ukraine that proved what we have already suspected. Conclusions need to be drawn, appropriate actions need to be taken.

It's best to capitulate immediately. 🤔

Please, do not take over the role of a surrender monkey. It is Novi's job.

What threats?


Since you are alive, it means that you are not afraid of anything. Congratulations...


Russia will not attack you for the same reason why I am glad to be away from you and your pathos, exaggerations, rhetoric, metaphors, suicidal bravery, speaking in codes, and everything else makes Poles Poles.

So you can relax...Russia has many villages and every village has its idiot...They don't need more idiots. Especially the idiots that hate them.

Read this thread again.


Being afraid of something is not equal to being a coward. Everyone can be afraid, but allowing the fear to rule your conduct - that makes you a coward. Surely, you must understand this as a Pole (even an Americanised one).


Oh, yeah? Surely the fact that they are at war with Ukraine at the moment hasn't escaped you?