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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



Novichok
14 May 2024  #61

Putin can easily justify invading Ukraine. He learned it from us. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Memo to all: I got tired of listing our achievements as above so from now on it will be KVIA - not to be confused with KIA.

The difference: Putin can show tangible benefits from invading U.

We never can or do from our invasions. It's always about "freedom and democracy" and the morons buy it. For a while at least...

Oh,..I forgot "justice", and "the new world order"...

I like mockery...The only thing the azholes deserve...

AntV
14 May 2024  #62

AntV is even a bigger "oikophile" than Torq (even if closeted

Oh no! I'm out there with my oikophilia. I wear it like a badge of great honor. A badge that really sets off my eyes.

Really? Why?

Well they have people like you thinking they are vile and want to see them on their knees. Kind of puts one on edge.

Paulina
14 May 2024  #63

The difference: Putin can show tangible benefits from invading U.

Yeah, like Finland and Sweden in NATO - he did well with that, I've got to admit :)))

Oh no! I'm out there with my oikophilia. I wear it like a badge of great honor.

Oh, look at that - I didn't know! Duly noted. 🤮

Well they have people like you thinking they are vile and want to see them on their knees. Kind of puts one on edge.

Did you miss that part where I wrote: "I only started wanting to see RuSSia on its knees when RuSSia invaded Ukraine... Not before..."?

So, how can that be a just justification of RuSSian invasion of Ukraine? Me wanting to see RuSSia on its knees and thinking that it's a vile country is a direct result of RuSSia invading Ukraine. Can you comprehend that or did your RuSSophilia eat your brain? :D 🤦

Novichok
14 May 2024  #64

Yeah, like Finland and Sweden in NATO - he did well with that, I've got to admit :)))

I called Putin and asked him if he was still shaking in his boots. He said no and showed me a graph with NATO military budgets stacked up with and without F and S.

I needed a magnifying glass to notice the difference.

Then I saw a graph of benefits to the US vs the risk of getting dragged into another idiotic Euro war - this time with Russia, The risk went up while the benefits of being in NATO still remain where they have always been - at zero.

Hence my plea: Euros, go to hell, and FY.

Velund
14 May 2024  #65

Maybe Putin realized

... that if he will not strike NOW, then Gaza in 2024 will be compared with Donetsk, not with Dresden.

AntV
14 May 2024  #66

Duly noted. 🤮

Loving your home makes you vomit? Must be your diet. Try a diet of saltines, apple sauce, and rice.

Did you miss that part where I wrote: "I only started wanting to see RuSSia on its knees when RuSSia invaded Ukraine... Not before..."

Yes, I did.

Yeah, like Finland and Sweden in NATO

That, I'm sure wasn't in his plans, however, and more importantly, he has shown how feckless current western deterrence and leadership is.

... that if he will not strike NOW, then Gaza in 2024 will be compared with Donetsk

This, I believe, is nonsense.

Paulina
14 May 2024  #67

I called Putin and asked him if he was still shaking in his boots.

Really? So, surely, he wouldn't be shaking in his boots if Ukraine were to join NATO either :D

that if he will not strike NOW, then Gaza in 2024 will be compared with Donetsk, not with Dresden.

Yeah, sure, and this is why this "NOW" took him 8 years ;D

Yes, I did.

How?? Are you blind? lol

Loving your home makes you vomit?

So you're RuSSian now? o_O I thought you're American. So who are you exactly?

Btw, I thought "oikophile" is some new PF term for a RuSSophile. Isn't that it? 🤔

AntV
14 May 2024  #68

How?? Are you blind? lol

I might be.

You do know what oikophilia means?

Paulina
14 May 2024  #69

@AntV, no, I don't know. Read above.

Earlier I meant that you're even a bigger RuSSophile than Torq (even if closeted, unlike Torq).

AntV
14 May 2024  #70

no, I don't know

It means to love one's home. It's really what nationalists like Torq and I are, it's not nazi-like hatred of others but we love our homes. All we ask is that those who get invited in respect and care for our home, to assimilate to our customs and traditions and not expect us to reconfigure our homes to accommodate the new arrivals.

you're even a bigger RuSSophile

That's way too much an exaggeration. Hell, I can barely find Russia on a map, let alone be a russophile-not that there is any shame in russophilia, there's some good reason to be such, IMO.

Novichok
15 May 2024  #71

he wouldn't be shaking in his boots if Ukraine were to join NATO either :D

Putin already made sure this will not happen since NATO will not accept a country that is at war over its borders.
Let's call it a pre-existing condition. Would you buy a house with mold and a sticker on the front door: Unfit for human occupancy.

oving your home makes you vomit?

Never, ever apologize for being "a nationalist" for a very simple reason: Globalists perverted the meaning of the word. "Gay" used to be happy. Not anymore...

Today, these scumbags are working on "patriotism" to make it into hate speech.

The Pledge of Allegiance is xenophobic and not letting your daughter compete with guys makes you a transphobe.

Just saying...

mafketis
15 May 2024  #72

Never, ever apologize for being "a nationalist"

Interestingly putain is by no means "a nationalist" he's an open borders globalist.

In lots of ways he doesn't even seem to like ethnic russians very much (preferrring central asians the way Washington DC prefers central americans).

He just thinks russia should be the global hegemonic power. Nationalists care about things like borders but real russian nationalists who asked about borders were all killed...

Bratwurst Boy
15 May 2024  #73

I would agree....nationalism is actually the enemy of any Empire!

Torq
15 May 2024  #74

That's why it's better to be an oikophile than a nationalist. You can consider your country to be your home... or your Empire, or your continent, or even your planet!

Go oikophiles! :)

jon357
15 May 2024  #75

a nationalis

Can you be both a nationalist and a globalist.

a nationalist

That word is sadly tainted by its association with racists.

johnny reb
15 May 2024  #76

What's the matter with being a racist when the shoe fits ?
Racist is a crutch word that Leftists who can't handle the truth use.

jon357
15 May 2024  #77

the truth

Ù‹Which is what?

johnny reb
15 May 2024  #78

See, we knew you are clueless to the truth
Thanks for confirming

Alien
15 May 2024  #79

It seems that the russians are currently losing up to 1,500 dead and wounded every day. Despite everything, they are making progress, but they can do it, during World War 2 the ratio of losses was 7 Russians to 1 German and yet the Russians won.

mafketis
15 May 2024  #80

World War 2 the ratio of losses was 7 Russians to 1 German and yet the Russians won

russian had (just barely) the population structure for that (lots of peasant families having lots of kids)... it no longer has that and russia faces a massive demographic decline (worse than so far) from getting so many breeding age males killed

Mr Grunwald
15 May 2024  #81

Can you be both a nationalist and a globalist.

Of course

A nationalist seeing it as his nations duty for a global order and law and justice to be preserved for the betterment of his nation.

Loving others does not disqualify loving ones self and those you are close to.

It's anti-globalist, tribalistic and narrowminded and rascist people that try to use ANY ism for their own purposes. Just take this forum for example, if people find some country that would help their perspective. They think positively of it. No matter how awful it truly is.

ConstantineK
15 May 2024  #82

from getting so many breeding age males killed

You should add that this is just you speculations.

mafketis
15 May 2024  #83

There's also the russian version of the Great Replacement.... a russian speaking friend tells me it's an open secret that the russian government wants fewer russke and more rossijane.

Ethnic russian men have too high rates of alcoholism and tend toward lazy and violent... Central Asians are preferred by the government because they're less afraid of work and don't drink as much and a bit less crime prone than those from the Kaukaz.... beating up and raping women are of no concern to the russian government.

just what I've heard....

Velund
15 May 2024  #84

"I want to say once again to everyone both inside and outside the country - there will be no Ukrainianization of Georgia" - leader of the ruling Georgian Dream party Kakha Kaladze

"What is happening now in Tbilisi is similar to the processes that took place in Ukraine in 2014," Kaladze said in response to the presence of the foreign ministers of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Iceland at a rally against the adoption of the law on controlling the financing of foreign agents.

Velund
15 May 2024  #85

Introducing liberal terrorism 🫣

(t.me/montyan2/7813)

We are used to the idea that terrorism is usually the domain of radical right-wing or left-wing political ideologies, while for liberalism in its classical sense, terrorist attacks are something fundamentally contrary to the very foundations of the ideology. However, the assassination attempt on Slovak Prime Minister #Fizzo shows that this is no longer quite the case. The shooter turned out to be Juraj #Cintula, an activist of the liberal pro-European party Progressive Slovakia. These are typical Euro-liberals with "green agenda", support for LGBT, pan-Europeanism and all that. And these are not some marginalized people - the head of the political force is, for a minute, the ex-president of Slovakia, Zuzana ÄŒaputova.

It is more than logical for supporters of such a political force to pursue the realization of their goals during the normal political process: campaigning, elections, etc. However, the "progressives" do not do so well with elections. They lost the previous parliamentary elections with only 18% of the vote, which led to the rise to power of their rivals led by Fitzo, who represents the party " Course - Social Democracy" and adheres to conservative, anti-Western and Euroskeptic views. Well, already in 2024 the presidential election was won by Fitzo's ally and like-minded Peter #Pellegrini.

Probably, it was electoral failures that prompted the "progressive" Cintulu to start political struggle with his opponents in another way. However, it is not clear what this will do for him. Usually such actions against popular politicians lead to exactly the opposite results, and the leaders of "Progressive Slovakia" will most likely have to prove for a long time that they have nothing to do with what happened and fully condemn it.

But the important fact is that modern liberalism continues to evolve into something that would have left the fathers of this ideology like Rousseau and Voltaire in outright horror. And this looks like it's far from over.

PS (from another source): "The attack on Robert Fitzo may be related to his position against arms supplies to Ukraine, which goes against NATO - French politician, candidate for the European Parliament Florian Philippot"

Bratwurst Boy
15 May 2024  #86

....I do believe western govs could find someone better suited than this old geriatric pensioner if they wanted to assassinate someone.

Not to mention that there would be lotsa more important targets first....

Crow
15 May 2024  #87

One just need to look at the comments of Polish President Duda, some members of government and sometimes even PM Tusk, to be able to understand sad state of the Polish politics. At a time of global turmoil and clash of civilizations.

Velund
15 May 2024  #88

someone better suited than this old geriatric pensioner

"Old geriatric pensioner" had much more chances to pass really close, if you seen video of assasination attempt, there was quite a lot of guards... But I cannot exclude that few "more fit" boys worked as "distraction team".

Novichok
16 May 2024  #89

If Ukraine lost 31,000 soldiers, why do they need 500,000 replacements?

Velund
16 May 2024  #90

Because brazen bullshit eventually comes out in the most painful place.


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