Brexit 2019 and Poland

In which way are Brits really?
There are three European nations that are the most hated across Europe.
Germany, France and Britain, probably, but not necessarily, in that order.
I wonder why?
The fact that these three countries are the wealthiest, most successful and most powerful countries in Europe surely can't have anything to do with it....... or are other nationalities really that envious?

As for some of the newer "pygmy" states that have evolved more recently,some through mass murder and genocide,like, for example Serbia.These states have a lot to answer for, so they blame the important countries instead in an infantile attempt to deflect blame from themselves.

Like when a child is chastised for doing something bad, coming out with something bad his brother did years ago.

Yes. With 'brexit', it's something other than that.

Jacob Rees-Mogg illustrates what Brexit is really about. The obscenely wealthy stirring up ordinary people into believing that Teachers, Doctors, Nurses, Social Workers, disabled claimants, migrant workers etc. are the enemy whilst quietly ripping the country off by hiding their millions in tax havens.


Also very true. declining Russia's a bugger for that trick...

I have been taught Ezra Pound in both Britain and the US so he is hardly deleted from history.

T.S. Eliot however might prove problematic as well, considering he was a US-expat, but also like Pound, an anti-Semite, albeit
less openly virulent.

Roald Dahl (not a US expat) was much the same. All were anti-semitic, Ezra Pound (like so many racists) however was seriously mentally ill.

Anyway, 'brexit' looks like it's off untill 31 Oct, hopefully permanently.

You do know that Yeats was Anglo-Irish and though an Irish nationalist, had no hatred for England or the English. The Anglo-Irish tradition in Ireland is a powerful one which has contributed enormously to our culture and our history and indeed to our freedom. Many of the most ardent Irish freedom fighters were of English ancestry including Patrick Pearse of the 1916 Rising whose father was English.


After the 1916 Rising, the British officer who sentenced Pearse to death said:

"I have just done one of the hardest tasks I have ever had to do. I have had to condemn to death one of the finest characters I have ever come across. There must be something very wrong in the state of things that makes a man like that a rebel. I don't wonder that his pupils adored him. "

The relationship between Ireland and England, the two traditions and cultures is very complex and interwoven. It's a tapestry really, that can't be picked apart.

People hate Germany because of the German problem (it's doomed to dominate any european structure it becomes involved in and this leads to a feedback loop of mutual resentment)

People hate France because of its delusions of grandeur (and can't let go of a shiny past that never quite existed and accept its real status as a middling power that can be a very nice place to live if you're economically secure... which many French aren't).

People hate Britain because of the extreme ethnocentrism of the British (and general inability to function outside their own country without everyone bending over backward for them which they don't even appreciate....

summary: Germany is too powerful, France is too delusional, Britain is too self-absorbed (Brexit mess is just the latest example, trying to involve all of Europe in its own parliamentary incompetence) they should be forcefully kicked out with no deal ASAP

Funny that you should mention that, because I've just been reading about how some republicans from Crossmaglen have English mothers too.

It's why bedroom brownshirt incels have no hope of understanding Anglo-Irish relations, and they especially have no hope of understanding the dynamics involved with Polish emigration to Ireland.


Likewise. The only people deleting Pound and others from history are the ones claiming so.

Couldn't agree more.

Could agree with that.

But two of them could change to the better voluntarily....

And now the UK has just arrested Julian Assange.... UK out of the EU NOW!!!!!

What a complete disgrace!!!

I wonder how that could happen....didn't he disguise himself? Was his white hair spotted on the train and people alerted the police???

Nothing to do with Brexit. Start another thread. And whether the UK stays in the UK or not has nothing to do with you. You have no horse in this race. Is there something the matter with you that you hate Britain so much - or maybe that is a cliched question when posed at a certain kind of American?


Sorry to break this to you Milo, but the odds are now firmly on the UK staying in the EU. Will you (yourself) survive that fact? I'm sure you will. Hope so anyway.

It is a disgrace! And much bigger one than Brexit.

I'm not gonna start a new thread when the mods would just move it here (or somewhere even worse) I saved them the trouble....


Who hates? I hate neither the majority of voters who voted to leave the EU nor those who wanted to remain. Can you say the same?

But parliament has been incompetent in carrying out the will of the electorate so the EU should help the UK out the door. And the UK arresting Assange on US orders was/is/will always be an act of spectacular cowardice and will live in infamy!

April 11, 2019, national day of British shame!

Very very good news!

To be honest Doug,I am past caring...........just fed up with the whole thing.

What I find puzzling about such major decisions as Brexit is the nearly perfect 50-50 vote. No matter what the issue, by some perverse law of deliberate uncertainty, it's never 70-30 or 60-40. Existential issues, like Roe v. Wade, who the next president will be, or Brexit should not be decided by 50.1 vs 49.9 outcomes.

Is it some form of spite in play? If you vote x, I will vote y - which I hate - just to p***s you off?

No more asylum! No more government's being held accountable! No more whistleblowers!

It was about that on the first referendum.


Often there's a 60% threshold for major issues.


Possibly yes.

More insanity from the EU... the Internet Archive and Project Gutenberg are 'terrorist' content?

It's a real mystery why people might not want their countries involved in this control freak organization...

techdirt.com/articles/20190410/14580641973/eu-tells-internet-archive-that-much-site-is-terrorist-content.shtml

All I know is that if 1984 ever becomes a reality it will be in Europe, this mecca of freedom and other good things. And the UK, to be more specific.

Do please tell us jon why it is good news that Assange has been arrested in this way by a right wing South American government. Have you temporarily take leave of your senses?

By the UK police, for jumping bail.

Yes.....and we know about Swedish so called sex laws, and the suspicion back then that the Swedes would shop him....
Sweden is scum after all Jon - as you would well know from past frame ups as with the British soldier found with drugs in his car boot in the 1980s. So obviously planted.

It's more about the hacking. In the stolen docs he released there was information that pointed to the identities of agents in repressive countries. I doubt it would be possible to locate them or their families now.

It will also be interesting if anything comes out about 'brexit' , Russia and/or trump (whioe election win he is at least in part responsible for).

That guy is a narcissistic psychopath.

Good. Spying against your country is treason and punishable by death. In the pussyfied US, we no longer have the balls to execute ours the way we used to.

A. Laws vary. B. Not all of Assange's victims were 'spying' against their country.

C. A fair and transparent trial is kinda imortant, and of course, D, their families???

That's one reason why he shouldn't be extradited to the US, to be fair.