Brexit 2019 and Poland

Why do you think Israelis blow up terrorists' houses? And the US drops bombs on them without much regard if the wives are at home or out shopping.

When you take up spying or terrorism as a profession, you must consider all the pluses and minuses. Seeing you family in Heaven too early is one of them

So naow you're trying to excuse targetting innocents...

You do what works when your very survival is at stake. The West is still to learn this bit of wisdom. Poland and Israel already took that course.

Nobody's 'survival is at stake'.

Let me help translate "Death to Israel" into English. It means "Death to Israel".
Would you like me to find the definitions of death and Israel?
Also, have you ever heard of someone bleeding to death? It's slower and less spectacular but the dead are just as dead.
That's what the whites are doing now.

We're talking about 'brexit'. Nobody's survival is at stake.

The white race in the UK, the US, and other places is in the slow death spiral by a million cuts - the culture diluting millions of migrants. It's the slow and painless nature of this process what makes it feel inevitable and tolerable.

If you think I am some fringe freak, come to "America", chat with the American Indians and, later, tell us how they feel about their survival. I wasn't there, but I would bet that way back they had conversations similar to the one we are having right now.

Rich - kindly stop polluting this thread with your usual nonsense.
This about BREXIT - and how it affects Poles and Brits inter-alia, and not your white supremacist conspiracy theories.
Thanks in advance for your co-operation..

So far, this thread has been great. It's stayed on-topic and generated some interesting discussion and debate, so I agree, we should keep it that way :)

Sounds reasonable, but it's not true. It wasn't until Post 35 that the subject of how Brexit will impact Poles in the UK and Brits in Poland was mentioned. This means that the OP's intent was to discuss Brexit. Period.

Back to Brexit.
So, what was the number one reason for Brexit? Not the impact. Reason.

That's easy. Cameron (that git born with a silver spoon in his mouth) asked the proletariat to back him in a popularity contest. The result was not entirely surprising. Referendums should by nature have a non-skewed margin of error or be revisited, as with the Irish series of referendums on abortion law.

So they're planning on revisiting that one?


those bast@rds!


to support a political system that benefits others far more than them...

:) :) I have always failed to grasp your sense of humour Mafketis. Well, we are an Atlantic ocean apart after all.
What did Cameron (and more to the point, his advisors) expect when they asked for an opinion? This was not a facebook restaurant critique. The British "ruling class" is so very poor on sensible perception of the facts due to the fact that until 1945 they didn't have to give a stuff about what people at large thought.

We are not on the same page, so let me rephrase it.
My question is: What was the number one reason why the pro-exit Brits voted for Brexit?
There may have been more, but I am asking for the main one.

Wiki says it was about Sovereignty....

"This poll produced data that showed that 'Nearly half (49%) of leave voters said the biggest single reason for wanting to leave the European Union was "the principle that decisions about the UK should be taken in the UK".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_vote_in_favour_of_Brexit

Not good enough. I wasn't there, but that explanation makes no sense. I would love if the US Congress abdicated and all the decisions were made in Lima, Peru, if I liked those decisions. Plus, people seldom vote against future events. It's usually about what already happened and they experienced.

So, again, what were the Brits unhappy about? I am assuming that happy Brits would happily keep things the way they were on the day of the referendum.

You have a poll with the answering numbers and the outcome is "not good enough" for you? WTF???

Wiki is nothing but a bunch of PC liberals. Would they ever say that the Brits have had it with the foreign brown sh** flooding their white country? Of course not. Just an example.

So, I would like to hear from those who actually voted for Brexit and know why their friends voted for Brexit.

Two types. The rich ignorants, hoping to destabilise the economy, and the poor ignorants who are ridiculously brought up to know their "place" and so, in fact, respect those rich fokkers.

You know that, but are simply being obtuse. Because you are Russian.

No, I don't know that, and no, I am not Russian. I wish I were instead of Polish, but I am not. Or German.

What is interesting in your post - notice that I didn't say dishonest as I lack the proof just as much as you lack the proof that I am Russian - is that it didn't mention immigration as a reason to vote for Brexit.


Is this you or somebody pretending to be you who wrote this? If so, can you spell hypocrisy? Does "Because you are Russian" fall into the category of "nonsense"?

They expected that the electorate would do as it was told


A great analysis of the lead up to the American Revolutionary War!

The problem is that to not honor the result weakens democracy (which does not always mean the majority makes the right decision)

Because your question was so blatantly geared at that question, and one would have had to be very dumb not to have seen the fact. If you had asked "Is xenophobia one of the factors"? I would have said yes - because both of the two classes I refer to can't relate to anybody who isn't part of his clique. But I repeat, the overriding factor for the referendum result was the stupidity of the government in asking such a ridiculously opaque question of "Do you wish to retain European Union membership" and asking it of an unintelligent electorate, who wanted to embarrass Cameron, the worst PM in living memory, bar the next one........Those voters wouldn't even know what sovereignty means, or in what ways the European Union is supposedly taking over decision making powers from elected governments.

We still have our sausage. We still have our own laws. If the country doesn't like European law, they can always legislate against it.

In the meantime, a lot of European wide initiatives make clear good sense in my view - shared by the majority of the British people - if put to the vote. Which of course - would only go one way, now that those ignoramuses have finally seen the maths put up on the blackboard, and have written it into their copybook, and checked the formula on Google.

QED.

So ask the question again until you get the answer you are seeking. :) ;)
After all, that's what May is attempting to do. Is that democratic?

you want a European army? You like article 13? You like the EU telling project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive that they're 'terrorist' content?


May is trying the classic "Let's make my problem "our" problem" with European leaders hoping that somehow they will overrule Brexit. The only reason to put her in charge during the Brexit period was to sabotage it and she's done a brilliant job of it.

She stood for election and just about won.

like she 'just about' delivered brexit...

And fortunately didn't.

An excellent idea. Would you have us fighting each other instead?

Do you have a link to that?

Such are directives, not laws. As I said, countries can choose not to implement, or opt out.