Brexit 2019 and Poland

Not a chance. Not a negotiator. It will be a compromise right winger, maybe Raab or that awful Hunt fellow, who has been converted to the cause after joining the nouveau riche.

Unlikely to be Boris - he might win the Conservatives election but won't have the votes in parliament to form a govt. so if he is prime minister it will onky be for a few days. Agree it will be some compromise candidate

British press has his odds at 6/4 to Raab @ 6/1
hulldailymail.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/who-next-prime-minister-latest-2904085

USA fake news has Sajid JKavic to be the next PM, yikes!

I think BOJO is your man. He's very entertaining and seems like a splendid chap:)

The British Trump????

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Please don't make an ass of yourself Joker. It is clear you know nothing of British politics, or how the bookmakers operate. You can put your house on Boris Johnson NOT being Prime Minister.

No bookmaker would accept that bet though.
Johnson is a conduit for the right, and that is all

Better than Farage, I can tell ya that much!

Corbyn finally making sense. Labour plus Lib dems plus Tory Remainers means a Second Referendum and goodbye Brexit.
Sorry all you Neo-Cons (who apart from Miloslaw and Spike it doesn't affect anyway)
There's nothing like a bye-election to concentrate the mind. Peterborough will probably be a Lib Dem win though. Hven't seen the polls - but if Brexit win (without a party manifesto) it will simply be a protest vote and a flash in the pan.

So, elections don't have any consequences in the UK, very interesting!

Why do ppl even bother to vote?

Of you dont like the outcome, fine a way to over turn it. This sounds just like the libtard snowflake Democrats!

The Brexit side did not deliver Joker - they had 3 years to do that - they were unprepared, lazy, divided and driven by personal ambition, naive and unwilling to be honest about the bad effects of Brexit.

Thinking again from first principles is a response to that failure

It just gets better 😂
John Bercow pledges to stay on as speaker. Fair play guaranteed.
The Tory leadership, according to my notes, has now shifted to a choice between Gove and Rory Stewart.

Interesting possibility: could Gove get it and then give Scotland a second referendum with the aim of killing off independence for the foreseeable future? He would surely fancy his chances, as he would be able to easily speak to the Unionists in Scotland and those sitting on the fence.

Delph, I fail to understand your post, sorry. A non sequitur.
In this context of BREXIT or not, the question of a second referendum as to Scottish independence has to take second place to the question of survival of the Union.

Ah - OK Delph, read your post again and engaged brain.
The answer is a BIG no. The SNP won't fold against Gove's bluff.
They know he is snide Scum.

Doug, Corbyn never makes any sense...... he is a loser.
There is no way a second referendum will ever happen because it will be suicide for whoever instigates it.
Nobody, least of all parliament seems to be listening to the voice of the people.
And not just in The UK but in France and Italy too.
Big miistake........ rule one for any politicians, listen to your electorate..... or pay the price.

How much do the bookies offer on that? I reckon the chance of the people being asked for s second opinion is 70/30.
We agree Corbyn is a clown. The real leader is McDonnell, or preferably, Starmer.


The polls consistently say people want to remain.

Mate, you must be reading The Grauniad..... you have been out of The UK too long and are totally out of touch.
Even in London the Brexit Party got 2 MEP's... even in London!!!!!!

Milo - the Poll of polls says 54 percent of respondents want to Remain.
STOP PRESS;
DAILY MIRROR:
Corbyn to back Second Referundum.

You know, we're in territory now that anything could happen. No-one is going to get a better deal than what May got, yet no-one is going to take the risk of no deal.

I wouldn't bet on any outcome right now.

Mirror, Labour newspaper.
Corbyn, nobody takes any notice of him.
Fact is, if we don't leave The EU on Halloween, this country has had it....
No choice.
Have to leave, deal or no deal.
And there won't be a deal.
The most important preperations for this are already in place.

A VERY powerful force, as is the Sun. As you well know.
You must try harder Miloslaw.
Goodbye Brexit when Labour back a Second Referendum.
I will be betting many, many thousands of pounds on the result of a second referendum. Money in the bank.

Why has the country "had it" if it is still in the EU on All Saints ? It will be richer, safer, more stable with more jobs and provide more opportunities

Because the British public will never forgive the politicians that ignored our vote in 2016.
People say we didn't know what we were voting for back then.I don't think that is really true.
What is true, is that we now know a lot more than we did 3 years ago.
And if there were to be a second referendum (another betrayal) tomorrow, the vote would be about 55% to 45% in favour of Brexit.
Even without a deal.

Well, only one way to find out I guess.

I do. People voted on the back of a bunch of lies and scaremongering.


We certainly do, which Is why I think that in the light of all cards now being on the table, there should be a second referendum. If you're sure that the vote would be 55% in favour of Brexit and that this is what the British people want, why would you be against having a referendum to confirm it? Worried they won't fall for the lies a second time round?


I agree. Whoever is chosen as the next PM will do no better than May. She was handed a no-win situation and that isn't going to change whoever is in charge.

So? The remainers should have taken that possibility into account when they were saying it was a one-time vote


despite what everybody was saying before the first referendum (I'm sure that had 'remain' won by 10 votes that there would be kick back against another referendum)

A second referendum might achieve the goal of staying in the EU (for those who find that important) but that would come at tremendous social cost and rupture British society in a way that won't heal for decades...

I think a second referendum would be even more in favour of leave than the first one, so that is not what I fear Chemikiem.

It is the damage it will do, as Mafketis so eloquently explains.

I think they need to simply give up and call a snap election instead. There's no way out of this with the current electoral situation, though I suspect the Tories and Labour both fear the consequences of such a thing after the European vote.

I can seriously see this dragging out until 2022 because no-one wants to risk Farage somehow pulling off a ridiculous victory, no-one wants to take responsibility for Brexit and parliament can't agree on anything except maintaining the status quo.

Milo, as a Leaver, would you support a referendum that provided for a straightforward remain/leave with legal power? I mean, with the legal power that the UK immediately leaves the EU as soon as the result is declared for Leave?

No.

We already voted to leave.

I would support a referendum if there was a choice on how we left.

But you are right on everything else you say.

I agree with what you're saying and it is a valid point, but as a remainer, I also feel that this could well be the scenario if we leave the EU. Given that the vote was so close, we need to be sure on something which is going to impact on generations to come. This country is completely divided and I don't think it will end if we leave the EU tomorrow. But hey, I'm not a politician, just my couple pence worth :)


What makes you say that Milo? Do you have anything concrete or is it just an opinion?


There are very options left, and without doing something definitive, I can see this dragging out indefinitely as you said, so I would welcome it. Not sure how it would go though given the current state of affairs!

When you talk a second referendum it ripping British society apart you really mean England.

A no deal Brexit will break up the UK.

Who cares if people already voted to leave - those leave voters are not able to implement the outcome.

He doesn't have a horse in this race. He's just stirring it. And what makes you think that Leave would win a second vote? The fact that the Brexit Party won a tin pot election?

Just talking to people.
I have had more remainers tell me they would now vote to leave than the other way round.