Brexit 2019 and Poland

Yes, but - don't know about you, but I generally meet/talk with people that I have something in common with (as in, you simply heard what you wanted to hear - possibly? No offence meant)

I get what you are saying, Doug, but most of the people I meet are through my work and are from very diverse backgrounds.
But yeah, my opinion is not based on any scientific study.It is just that, an opinion :-)

I'm not certain, but it's telling that the government hasn't been pushing for one, pro EU forces have never minded putting issues to the voters a second time when they don't like the result the first time around.... Departing from a well established pattern suggests they themselves are unsure of what the result would be...


What's 'tin pot' about the EP? When even ardent remainers ridicule key EU institutions then it shows there are problems....

But the Tories are Pro-Brexit, so off course they are against a second referendum. As for the tim pot nature of the European elections, we can always leave it to the original countries to take the political decisions. France and Germany generally concur and so it doesn't ever really matter too much when the UK MEPs abstain. A great many good things came to the UK only because of the social justice of EU laws, otherwise we would be stuck in a customs and culturally bound church driven old fashioned restrictive country.

Like Poland for example....

What a screwed up nation, The UK. They vote for change and 3 years later they still have their heads up their dupa`s. Its fun watching them constantly argue and insult each other. I thought American politics were bad, but nothing compared as those goofs from across the pond.

The best thing the UK could do is escape from the crumbling EU before its too late or before the muslims destroy their cities. Either way, its a friggin cesspool over there.

Wishful thinking of an American who can only wish that he lived somewhere as successful and prosperous as the EU.

Now, tell us honestly how you feel.
Are you related to Dirk?

Spot on, which is what we are trying to do, but people on the continent and in The UK are trying to stop this, largely because of money.

The UK is the largest net contributer to EU funds after Germany.


The EU, successful and prospeous?
That is history.
Not the future.
The EU is going "Tits up" as we say in The UK.
The only way is down......

Sure, look at the huge increase in living standards for people in places like Poland since they joined. For all the structural problems it has as a bloc, there's no denying the success of the EU as a whole.

Even the elections last week showed that Europe has a very healthy political scene, IMO.

And yet so many people voted for parties that were hostile to The EU.
The EU has problems and creates them too.
The UK was never suited to be in such an undemocratic European alliance.
It just does not suit our mentality, like ID cards......
Best for both parties that The UK leaves.
As for Poland, yeah, they have done well out of The EU, and good luck to them.
But if Brussels think that is enough to "buy" Poland, they have another thing coming.....

I remember Nottingham before we joined the EU, and after.
I have a strong opinion as to which version was better, life before or after.

Don't think so Delph. Varadkar said yesterday that he told Corbyn that there was virtually no chance of an extension beyond 31 October.

"There is a hardening view across the EU that we cannot continue to have rolling extensions, and while there could potentially be a further extension if there was an election to allow that election to happen or if there was a referendum, I don't think it is viable to believe that there would be sufficient support or unanimous support around the European Council for a further extension while the UK tries to figure it out or for another set of indicative votes."

Good! I'm glad that Varadkar has really found his feet with this whole mess. It would be nice if the European Council came out and said that 31st October is the final deadline and that the UK must either leave or revoke Brexit with no other alternative.

well if he's the bad cop at present....


then I don't think the EC would get in his way playing that role...

I'll always be grateful to leave voters for ultimately showing off just how useless the UK government is... no one with any decision making power wants to be responsible for either staying or remaining... what a useless bunch. As the old saying goes sh1t or get off the pot!

Clearly Trump does not really want BREXIT
He has to be bluffing when he says the NHS and it's selling off is on the negotiation table
An own goal in favour of Remain in any case.
Trump - the gift that never stops giving to the side of reason every time he opens his redneck mouth.

Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about anything other than merely furthering his own status and lining his already deep pockets!
Who other than a prize boob insults the Lord Mayor of London on a supposedly "diplomatic" visit??

The NYT op-eds were right on the money in their condemnation of our Tweeter-in-Chief and his inability, like a child, of
keeping his negative feelings, his hostilities TO HIMSELF!!!

A dirt-poor representative of the "Free World", as disparaging as that of any US-President in memory.

I have to admit that your posts are a goldmine...
1. Trump is already the numero uno in the world. There is nothing above him. He does not need to "further his own status".
2. Trump lost a lot of money as a result of his policies. His "deep pocket" got a lot less deep. As opposed to the Clintons and Obamas.


That "Lord Mayor of London" has the manners of a drunken bum. He should not commen on what is clearly none of his f***king business: what a duly elected president of the US does or says. Further, before the a-hole shoots his mouth off, he should realize that there is a new sheriff in town who doesn't s*** form anyone and fights right back. Unlike his apologetic predecessor.


Trump is not the representative of the "Free World". That's what the world treating the US as its ATM would like to believe. He is the president of the United States and his ONLY duty and obligation is to do what's best for the United States and the world can go and f*** itself.

Incorrect on all counts, Rich!

There are certain immutable, yes even Platonic, ideals of what represents "presidential demeanor" and this bloke in the Oval Office has none of it. This is as absolute as saying the sun rises in the East and sets in the West (not literally, of course), there can be no dispute about that, except perhaps if Trump turns out to be the last, undiscovered Marx Brother, out to turn civilization on its ear:-)

LOL

As an observer (yank) watching this clown as The Mayor of London, makes the UK look really bad.


He looked very Presidential with the Queen, but of course you observing D-Day or another event is nominal because you rather tow the line of the MSM and bore us to death with trivial nonsense.

My question to all the libs and you is....... When are you going to stop the whining and help make a difference instead of obstruction and hate.

I might ask you Reps the same question, Bluzeki, although I'd scarcely be getting the same answer:-)

Trump made a clumsy show of appearing presidential, yet again, the following indicates the difference between "presidential" vs. "presidentialESQUE":

To the Lord Mayor - Although his Lordship and I clearly do not share a common agenda, I shall rally for his support in the certain knowledge that he will heed sound counsel and in future, practice wiser leadership...

Trumpspeak - Mayor Khan is like such a mega loser, people, ahemm, it's, it's not even funny! I mean, look, if the Lord Mayor can't even do his job for chrissake, he should do something else and let Boris Johnson or somebody take over......

Which version of the above, be the year 1959 or 2019, is superior, beggars discussion, I think!

What the fukk have these last few posts got to do with Brexit? Get the fukk of this thread if you can't post sense because it doesn't concern you. That goes for all of you.

Just fukk off if you have nothing to add.

Nice vocabulary, Dougpol 1. Which college did YOU attend or was it maybe the ol' school of hard knocks?

The writing is on the wall Make Britain Great Again:)

Go BOJO! The British Trump!

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Quite restrained I thought. Why pollute the thread?

Poor old Tessie, she's on the first step of the long walk away from Number 10. Good to see that she's going to focus on domestic matters for the remainder of her tenure. That's a very worrying aspect of Brexit, important domestic governance has been completely sidelined and will continue to be, once the new PM is elected. I actually feel sorry for May. She had a rotten job to do and never really had a chance to be a 'proper' PM, she was just a Brexit scapegoat really. As for eleven candidates for PM - it's ludicrous, like a Banana Republic. Shows what a mess everything is in.

I think you have it backwards - her whole shtick was publicly failing (in an attempt to make Brexit look impossible) she sacrificed her political career to show her loyalty to borderless capital and I assume she'll be awarded after a fitting interval....

Don't cry for me City of Londooonnn
The truth is I never hurt you
All through my failed votes
My mad existence
I hindered Brexit
Don't keep your distance...

That's a very clever little ditty! She certainly has been Mater "Misery" -cordiae :))

Some sailed the Andrea Doria, soon to be Ex-PM May, sailed the Misera Cordia....and ran her into the ground!!
Now how's that for clever?:-)
LOL

Can anything stop Boris Johnson becoming prime minister?

theweek.co.uk/101470/can-anything-stop-boris-johnson-becoming-prime-minister

I appears BOJO is well on his way to becoming the next PM:)

It will be very beneficial for England when they leave the kraut kabal in Brussels, then make a trade deal with Trump.

Parliament can stop him - he will not have a majority and will be there a few weeks at most.