Brexit 2019 and Poland

You underestimate Bojo Doug.

Mmm.. voting history suggests that Johnson won't win. I hope he does, so that the Tory party implodes.
Corbyn would be forced to declare Labour the Remainer Party and it would be electoral Armageddon for the Tories with a split right wing vote.

Cushty!
Notice my use of the second conditional, as in, this is an imaginary situation, because I don't believe for a minute that Johnson will be PM

BOJO LANDSLIDE Boris Johnson would lead Tories to 140-seat majority and wipe out Farage's Brexit Party, new poll says!

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A poll produced by the Daily Telegraph, whose highest paid employee is er...Boris Johnson.

In real life he knows that will not happen which is why he has said he will not call an election.

He will immediately lose their 13 sears in Scotland. Which would mean that to get this mythical landslide they would need to win about 70 seats in England despite having the same policies and less money.

It could yet end up being Rory Stewart.............

Who the hell is Rory Stewart. I know Rod Stewart, but Rory Stewart...?

Just an interesting fact. Rory Stewart's name is actually Rod Stewart; Rory being a nick. Or so I heard on the radio. Funny that.

The only sensible candidate.

He has run the best campaign. and might even make it to the last two.
Obviously I don't agree with him.....he is in the wrong party, he would be a good Lib Dem leader.
He is just a male, Etonian, Theresa May, no change or progress there then.
But it will be either Gove or Hunt against Johnson in the last two in my opinion.
Whatever happens, and none of us can predict the future in these crazy times, I think Boris will break the rule that early leaders in this contest never win.


Lol!!
Rod Stewart for PM!!!!!( The real Rod Stewart )
He would be better than any of the other party leaders.

Look at his voting record. He's a Conservative.

He's out.

Thank God for common sense!
Boris's people are running this with tactical voting.
Boris will be PM.

Down to Johnson and Hunt.......
It's done.
Boris will be PM.

As I said before, and you can call me cynical, his tax cuts for the rich strategy will pay off. The candidates can bang on all they want about Brexit , the usual bullsh1t about what each will do if elected, but greed and the promise of money will always win out. I hate to think what's coming next if he's elected.

That's easy. Johnson will fly to Brussels, demand to renegotiate the deal, and earn a kick in the nuts just for asking stupid questions. Hard Brexit follows, and then we'll see how strong Britain's economy really is.

I don't think he will. It's completely pointless. Just last night Tusk, Juncker and Leo Varadkar once again emphasized that there will be no renegotiation of the Withdrawal Agreement and that the backstop remains.

then it has to be a hard brexit


what happens to that with a hard brexit? cause that's clearly what the EU wants...

No - the EU wants the deal they negotiated with the then prime minister of Britain, and which Boris and Hunt both voted for several weeks ago. Given the dumb red lines she set out that is the best deal Britain can get (and is of course much worse than remaining)

No deal is not the EUs fault. It's the fault of people who voted for Brexit.

Nah, can't agree with that at all.
The fault lies completely with Theresa May and her poor negociatiing skills.
The EU want to avoid no deal, probably more than The UK does.
Time for some hard bargaining after a no deal Brexit.
Most people that voted leave knew it would cost us economically in the short term, only how much it would cost us was was unknown.

But people voted and took that risk.
This vote was not about economics.
Time to kill that stupid old argument.

what are the possible benefits of that 'deal'? it's like all the drawbacks and none of the benefits of membership


there was no negotiating the EU doesn't negotiate (one reason for its current problems) it's too big and too complex to be able to do much of anything now and it's mostly just bureaucrats trying to find continued reasons for their place at the trough

Increasingly the only short term solution is hard brexit

What's interesting about the whole mess is just how useless the British political establishment (across the board) is.... the rot is very deep.

Nope - hard Brexit is not the only solution. Are you far simpler solution is to cancel it immediately, keep the status quo until someone formulates a proper way to exit.

Of course the deal is worse than the existing membership - that is because the government box themselves in by saying they would leave the single market and wouldn't accept jurisdiction of the European Court. The third redline, relating to the Irish border simply compounds the errors caused by the first two.

However the deal is much much better than no Deal which will be extremely destructive. Not just in the short term but for a generation. Not that that would bother the pensioners and unemployed who voted for Brexit the first time.

Yes the political class is performing poorly - but you could have Gladstone, Churchill, thatcher, anyone in charge and they would not be able to deliver the false promises made in the referendum.

As for hard bargaining after no deal well good luck ringing round and dragging 27 leaders back to the table on All Saints Day when your ports are clogged, airports shut and pound is tumbling.

BOJO is well on his way to victory and an awesome trade deal with the USA:)

BIRMINGHAM, England (Reuters) - Boris Johnson, the favorite to be the next British Prime Minister, reiterated his desire to leave the European Union in October

usnews.com/news/world/articles/2019-06-22/uk-pm-favorite-johnson-reiterates-desire-for-oct-31-brexit

Finally, you will get what you actually voted for:)

Go BOJO!

Does it take news a day to reach Chicago now ? Boris has been in a spot of bother with the police and nobody cares about his fictitious trade deal.

and the timing is not weird or suspicious at alllllllll

I think the police have a record of the time of the incident - considering it was a row between him and his girlfriend I don't see how it can be part of a conspiracy. The police btw initially tried to hush it up.

Of course with two wives, 6 Kids with three different women plus one termination that he forced his poor mistress to get then this kind of domestic bother it's probably a regular occurrence. Im not a big one for moralizing but in this moment the country needs someone who thinks with their big head not their little head

it was apparentl recorded by neighbors and then printed in the guardian... not a shining moment for british journalism

(nb I can't stand BJ but he seems like the leader his party deserves.... I'm actually hoping that JC gets in... he'd take a lot of pressure off of Poland in terms of attention by the ADL...)

They said the same thing regarding Britain not adobting the euro. Stop feamongerign. After No deal both parties, through economic self interest, will come to some sort of agreeement in various fields.

The latest opinion poll for the Observer newspaper finds that 46% of the population want the UK to exit with No deal on 1st October if there is no agreement.

That simply shows what fukkwits we Brits actually are. Luckily for us, parliament will finds a way to prevent no deal and hopefully a new election can follow. In the meantime Corbyn can be marched off to a retirement home and Labour can rescue itself as the party of Remain.

Then let battle commence.
Only it wont. The "Party" and political careers demand that "democracy and the "will of the people" are upheld. What a load of old nonsense. Seems I was wrong all along. I hold my hands up - the stupidity and "fun" that is Boris is almost upon us. Even I in my prime could outhink tedious no-friends Jeremy Berkshire Hunt,

Im probably the only person that pays attention in Chicago. Now, if there were some news about another Royal baby or fancy wedding, that's a different story.


Just a drop in the bucket compared to the deranged politicians and liberal psychos in America.

I hope BOJO wins and a new trade deal between the US and UK is formed, it will be great for both of our countries.

If the peace in Northern Ireland is threatened by a no deal Brexit, then there won't be any US/UK trade deal.

Institute the hard border between ulster and the rest of the UK (and dependencies). Deal done!