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Brexit 2019 and Poland



TheOther
30 Aug 2019  #1,621

Triggered? Ha ha ha.

Trump and his trade advisors stated publicly that everything will be on the table in a trade deal, including the NHS and the British food sector. Why do you think Johnson feels compelled to point out yet again that the NHS is not for sale, even though Trump walked back on his initial statement?

Miloslaw
30 Aug 2019  #1,622

Hey, it might not be such a bad thing having a Queen

It is actually a very good thing,though Doug may disagree.

It only seem logical to be partners with your greatest ally

I would rather be the 51st state of The USA than the 28th of The EU.But many Brits will disagree with me there.

Trump will strip them of their assets and then draw them into yet another Gulf War on behalf of Israel

Socialist nonsense.

Crnogorac3
31 Aug 2019  #1,623

Hugh got mad and lost it :)

twitter.com/HackedOffHugh/status/1166740030947287040

Miloslaw
31 Aug 2019  #1,624

Hugh is another "Leftie Liberal" and a pathetic human being.
All the Lefties are squirming now because the right wing are in control...

Joker
1 Sep 2019  #1,625

Socialist nonsense.

I wonder if he realizes how stupid his conspiracies sound. He parrots every talking point of the day from the MSM, so sad!

It is actually a very good thing,though Doug may disagree.

Maybe the USA needs a King! lol At least we wouldn't be threatened by these Left wing socialists anymore...King Trump!! 2020

I would rather be the 51st state of The USA than the 28th of The EU

It would be mutually beneficial, not like Puerto Rico, phooey! They don't bring nothing to the table, only take....

mafketis
1 Sep 2019  #1,626

I would rather be the 51st state of The USA

Matt Johnson was way ahead of you..... in 1986...

youtube.com/watch?v=fPSO8pdAX6c

More seriously, entering an American sphere of influence (more) would be a really stupid thing to do with Brexit... (nb America doesn't treat other countries as equals anymore than Russia does)

Crow
1 Sep 2019  #1,627

In the wake of Brexit, this is part of armament that is via Polish air space transported to Serbia from Russia. Mi-35M helicopters armed with ATAKA missiles.

>>> youtube.com/watch?v=YkDvf5FM3xg

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Joker
1 Sep 2019  #1,628

to Serbia from Russia. Mi-35M helicopters

This has nothing to do with Brexit, just more of your stupid trolling about Serbia.

It must be a horrible place when you have to constantly make up lies and stories to push this narrative upon ppl that have NO interest at all!

Crow
1 Sep 2019  #1,629

Its a lie! You carefully follow my posts. You first and then many others. They suffer, maybe, I will allow, but they follow.

Joker
1 Sep 2019  #1,630

Nobody follows because they cant understand this gibberish or how youre allowed to spam every thread without consequence.

Miloslaw
1 Sep 2019  #1,631

, I will allow, but they follow

You can allow all you like but nobody on here is "following"you,even if they could understand you.....
Give it up Crow, you and your trolls are a lost cause.......it's over.... you are finished here.....troll somewhere else..,

Dougpol1
2 Sep 2019  #1,632

you are finished here.....

The clown should be banned. He's clearly off his head, knows zilch about Poland, has no link to Poland, and has never been here. Serbs are less welcome in Poland than Syrians. The shiite that MODS will allow here puts off normal people from posting.

Oh! and his sad pariah of a state will never be admitted to the EU - so what is he doing babbling away on this thread?

So tomorrow
1. A Brexit No Deal will be ruled out by parliament.
2. Then Johnson will call a General Election.
3. The Brexit Party doesn't want the Brexit Deals on offer - only a WTO Brexit will do for them. Splitting the Right wing vote. So a Remain coalition wins - just maybe

Miloslaw
2 Sep 2019  #1,633

The clown should be banned

He/They should be.... clearly bonkers......

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,634

Are you still confident of leaving the EU on 31st October Milo? Cancelled that party yet?
Plenty more twists and turns before all this is settled clearly, and all this time the money men and corporate lawyers are rubbing their hands in glee.

johnny reb
3 Sep 2019  #1,635

Wasn't this already voted on ?
How many Do Overs will Britain do before they really decide which end is up ?

Miloslaw
3 Sep 2019  #1,636

Are you still confident of leaving the EU on 31st October Milo? Cancelled that party yet?

Yup! Party still on :-)

As you say, plenty more twists and turns yet.........

cms neuf
3 Sep 2019  #1,637

Not gonna happen ! LOL

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,638

Definitely not on October 31st, even though Johnson is a spoiled brat and used to getting what he wants. Miloslaw will be holding a party for a miserable crowd of nationalist men, of a certain age, all wondering where it all went wrong (most of them being immigrants, and people who hate immigrants - not those at the "party" of course ("Ranjay? Oh, he's alright - he's one of us - he doesn't like all those Indians and johnny foreigners taking our jobs.....")

Atch
3 Sep 2019  #1,639

Boris is off to Dublin on Monday next week to met the Taoiseach. Very dramatic this afternoon, Phillip Lee crossing the floor of the House of Commons to join the Lib Dems.

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,640

Jesus, what a motley crew are on show in the UK parliament live on British telly.
On one side of the house, that smirking old dog Angela Leadsom and the racist chancellor of the Exchequer, and on the other side of the Commons, a front bench of overweight working class "heroes"...

I give up.

Boris is off to Dublin on Monday

I hope they tell him "You'll have had your tea?"

Oh dear Miloslaw. Did you see Johnson's performance in parliament today? He might be a charismatic chap - but is a shocking cheerleader. This is most excellent news for the Opposition as it is extremely hard to take seriously anything at all that Johnson says.

Why didn't his House tutor correct him? I bloody well would have done if I had been schooling him. Utterly clueless bluster.

delphiandomine
3 Sep 2019  #1,641

As you say, plenty more twists and turns yet....

I have no idea where this is going. The rebel Tories have no reason to support a new election, the numbers are there to keep extending the leave date, yet Johnson would clearly win a majority in any election tomorrow despite having lost his working majority today. Corbyn as PM doesn't have majority support, so that's not happening.

Ken Clarke for PM? Or could they keep Johnson in power while forcing him to decide betwkeen endless extensions or Deal?

Someone has to blink, I just wonder who.

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,642

yet Johnson would clearly win a majority in any election tomorrow

Really? So what about 2017 then - when May was 20 points in front in the polls? I think people will quickly grasp that this Tory crew are not to be trusted with a working majority.

"I haven't left my party - my party has left me": defector Philip Green. He also slaughtered Rees Mogg. This government is copying Trump and PIS.

The big difference is that the British people are not so stupid and IMO will not stand for this populism.
All these developments are most excellent.

delphiandomine
3 Sep 2019  #1,643

Just read one prediction that Johnson could be running a government that has around 25 seats short of a majority after tonight.

In this specific case, we could see Johnson forced to agree to a lengthy Brexit extension. He would surely quit, but what happens then? A new Tory PM restoring the whip to the rebels?

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,644

That's a very interesting analysis Delph. I have a different one. In any intelligent democracy, the government would put the question back to the people for a final decision on the debated facts - after all, they bleat on and on about "the voice of the people must be heard".

Crnogorac3
3 Sep 2019  #1,645

The earliest date for holding an election is October 10th if BloJo decides to call the election immediately or October 25th in case the parliament votes no. In the second case, BloJo has the instruments to delay the election until November. The safest solution to avoiding Brexit is for Parliament to pass a law immediately that will prevent No Deal, though BloJo could also obstruct the legality in that case.

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,646

Sorry Czarno - the situation is far more complicated than you suggest. Watch the BBC news channel or Sky News at news.sky.com if interested in live developments.

mafketis
3 Sep 2019  #1,647

In any intelligent democracy, the government would put the question back to the people for a final decision on the debated facts

So, the answer to government incompetence is to pressure the electorate to giving an answer more to their liking?

My prediction is that Brexit won't happen but not for any good reasons (it won't have anything to do with public opinion) and the price for staying in the EU (both for the UK and EU) will ultimately be higher than leaving.

cms neuf
3 Sep 2019  #1,648

After tonight Czarno he will not have a majority any more - he lost his majority of one already this afternoon and he wants to sack another twenty tomorrow, so maybe he won't be PM any more and won't be able to manipulate dates

Miloslaw
3 Sep 2019  #1,649

Wasn't this already voted on ?
How many Do Overs will Britain do before they really decide which end is up ?

No.This has not been voted on before.
So no British "Do overs" at all.

The earliest date for holding an election is October 10th

Labour are running scared of voting for an election because they know that they will be decimated.

, the government would put the question back to the people for a final decision

How can a second vote be a "final decision"?
People will demand a third "decisive" vote!
And this could go on ad infinitum......

Dougpol1
3 Sep 2019  #1,650

Boris decided to go against convention. In the same way, the Referendum was simply advisory and needs ratification. Ask the dumb British a Yes-No question and they are too thick to grasp the importance of it the first time.

If Brexiteers think they have the mood of the country then lets test it - but not with a General election with such populist carrots like "More money for schools" or "20,000 new police"

Who slashed the budgets in the first place? Clue - it wasn't Labour.
A General Election changes nothing. A confirmation referendum (now that brains are engaged) does.


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