Brexit 2019 and Poland

But it hasn't. That's the point. That was three long years ago, and "A week's a long time in politics". The Right want to mess up people's lives - because that's part of their policy - to divide and rule. If Britain is poorer in the short term, that suits their agenda just fine.

And the electorate have realised that they will be worse off financially if the UK leaves the EU. That is why those wishing to Remain have been in the majority for the last 18 months. But let's not ask them, right?

people who voted for Brexit realized it would take a couple of years... so?


Only if it's made legally binding under current electoral rules (no stuffing the voter rolls with non UK citizens...)

No, actually maf. No less than the Brexit secretary at the time, David Davis, famously said that divorcing from the EU would be very easy, and another Tory minister, Leon Fox, stated that "Agreeing trade deals on WTO terms will be a simple and straightforward matter".

So no, people didn't "realise" anything of the sort.

Get it over with Doug. Britain will leave the ue sooner or later. It will happen. You're grasping at straws. Wasn't there a minister in Westminster Jack Straw or have I got it wrong?

LOL! And why would the UK leave the EU, just because of a outmoded referendum, which Cameron handed to his right wing, simply to keep the Conservative Party together? Homeowners and producers have come to understand which side their bread is buttered on, and that the politicians were simply playing their xenophobic games with the electorate.

Britain used to be great - not any more. We are much better together.

Because it was voted upon and you lost. So, stop crying like a snowflake and except the results from your fellow countrymen that have voted in favor of Brexit:)


Come Halloween, can we buy tickets to your meltdown lol

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There are checks and balances in the British system too - the courts, which Boris wants to ignore, and an elected parliament which he wants to ignore and the Scottish welsh and Northern Irish assemblies which he wants to ignore.

Quite difficult to ingnore when he does not have a majority however - sucking 29 of his own party when he had a majority of one is a self inflicted error and you can have all the conspiracies you want about people wanting to thwart him but that was his doing,

I think he will be out by Friday night. He has a sex / money scandal that is getting worse, a few senior ministers will resign this week too.

Sadly that is not actionable. Nothing more than a little nepotism there, and a thank you hand up from a Bonking Boris. I don't think that Johnson will lose a vote of No confidence next week...it is in Labour's interest to keep him squirming and for the electorate to be further exposed yet to his toadyness. Even Toad of Toad Hall was reigned in eventually and had to apologise and turn over a new leaf, so there's history of such miracles happening.

And I will be expecting to see lots of cheap booze and party hats going cheap on Ebay after the 31st of October, from cancelled Halloween parties.

Not yet. He's going to cling on until the point of no return, so another 3 weeks. I think it's clear now that if Boris doesn't do as he's legally obliged to do, the opposition will remove him and replace him with someone who will be there solely to get an extension / call a new general election.

Boris has turned it into all or nothing, and it's impossible to see where he's going to find support for Brexit now.

Is he legally obliged to do it? I think it is I rather custom than a legal obligation.


Because a large chunk of the population wants it. Even larger accept it.

No Iron. A law was passed that if a deal is not reached he has to ask for extension. Nothing customary about it. Boris resignation of course is in his own hands.

Oh, thank you. I was thinking about something else.

I think you have a point , most men would rush to get an extension .

Will be a funny week seeing him trying to thump the table about Brexit while all the time fending off questions about his groping.

My dream scenario:

BJ: Please, Brussels, may we have an.... extension?

Brussels: ......... NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What then?

Yes, he is. If he doesn't, he can be prosecuted, and I suspect opposition parties would remove him within hours.

What he's doing now is hoping that the EU will blink first.

Although I don't agree with Brexit I it is obvious that democracy is now dead in the UK, the politicians have decided they know best and to hell with the peoples vote for Brexit, and to hell with giving the people a second chance to choose in a general election.

Just a note to any Brits who live in Poland but rely solely on their EHIC card for health care (I know a few there must be more) , If no deal on the 31st of October the EHIC will not be valid and you will be liable for any healthcare expenses.

Parliament is supreme in the UK. That's how it works. Your comment is a bit rich, living as we do in a country where the government breaks the law with impunity, and most of the population just shrugs it's shoulders.

Any Brits on this forum have Right of stay or citizenship. But thanks for reminding people Dolno - on another thread we discussed the simple fact that Brits are constantly updated by their civil servants.

Polish civil servants do sweet FA for their citzens.
And an election again solves nothing. A confirmatory referendum does.

They will get that chance, but they are not going to call an election until no deal is off the table, Boris has already demonstrated that he can't be trusted.


I thought it could be used temporarily, not for free healthcare for someone who actually lives outside the UK?

Errm a bit undemocratic don't you think, the people should be given a chance to vote , I think that now folks are educated as to what the consequences the decision to leave entails it will be reversed by the PEOPLE , but the Marxistlefty pigs at the trough won't let the people decide.

Corbyn does not want to have European law because it would protect people, and stand in the way of him creating his dream of a marxists state


Cant use it anymore if hard Brexit after 31st of October, I know a number of Brits who have been here for years never registered their stay and use the card for hospital visits

How do they support themselves? You don't need EKUZ (EHIC) in the country where you're employed, if they have jobs certainly that coverage would be better than EKUZ?

Dolno is likely referring to Brits with Polish blood, who have bought second homes here and move between the two countries, thus not having or needing a Pesel....

The ones I know either run their UK businesses from Poland or are under the age of retirement but have enough money never to work again Poland has very attractive low living costs.

Just for info something has changed to do with registering residency in Poland if you are Brit or European.

All you need to do is go to the local office that issues Dowots , give them your passport and tell them how long you intend to stay in Poland , 1 year two years or whatever, they then issue you with a Pesel , or if you pay them 15 zl they give you a piece of paper.

Used to have to go to the big city (Wroclaw) with lots of paper and bulshit bureaucracy now its easy , I think partly due to the millions of Ukrains that are registering here now.

I did my brit wife the other day, they weren't even interested in me being her Polish husband only the address she is living at.

I had to get a pesel for the wife so that I could cover her on my ZUS payments.

Now she can get a EKUZ for european travel post Brexit, great for us as we have plenty of pre-existing conditions that prevent us getting full private insurance cover if the brit ehic is not honoured due to hard brexit.

God bless Poland and all us Brits she now gives a safe European haven to.

Dolno, that's not confirmation of residency, but registration of address. The two aren't the same thing, and she'll still need to register at the Urząd Wojewódzki. A lot of people are making this mistake right now.

It will do for now got a pesel thats the main thing , you know what its like here , I will just blame the bureaucracy for all the confusion and all will be ok :)

Strange people who I know have have registered in the above way and then have been able to register a car in Poland!!, I thought you had to be resident to register a car, I might be wrong.

Anyway ho cares they won't throw the wifey out :)

Just a couple of hours 'til Johnson' conference speech to the fawning faithful. As far as his final offer to the EU goes, to misquote Supertramp, "What's he got? Not a lot".

Like a pop star singing a terrible song on TV that has been flown in specially for them, doesn't he feel like a right twat? There is no chance of his deal being accepted by the EU and he knows it - all part of the idiotic Tory game.

So extension number 3 it is then.

Well that's that then. A limp speech from a very funny guy, the sort that is always fun at a party - but this is a serious time, and no time for jokes.

A man sacked twice for lying wants to restore trust.

Yeah and look what it is dong to the stock market. :-(

Yes. Because Johnson has just published his proposals. More of the same dictatorial rubbish - all flannel, and no trousers.
NOT acceptable to the EU, definitely NOT a compromise, all "we want our cake and to eat it too".
Fortunately the majority of the British population do NOT agree with his vision for Brexit, if the polls are to be believed (55 percent want to Remain) So on and on we go with the merry-go-round.

Why won't the referendum traitors face the british people in a election? Because they know they will be wiped out and Boris will win in a landslide. Half the remainers just want to get on with it and move on to actually having the country governed.

dougpol is as ignorant of his country as he is about poland the polls show remain 35 percent, leave with no deal/clean break 35 percent, leave with a deal - 17 +/-3 percent

the rmainng percentage undecided. If you give people a binary choice and deadline , leave with no deal on the 31st October or extend brexit majority want the former.

Gamer Over for the remoaner traitors.

But from your previous post you say that giving people a binary choice of remain v no deal makes you a "referendum traitor".

Why not put it to the test ? would be simple and give a clear answer.