Brexit 2019 and Poland

How could they have anticipated Brexit before independence? They became independent 35 years before the EU was even created

It's not a conspiracy. It's an agenda. The political establishment has an agenda that does not allow for voters to get uppity and vote for things like Brexit.

If you really believe that the political establishment's interests are helpful to your own then..... don't stop believin'

And the UK have said, ad nauseam, that they will never impose a hard border in Ireland.


So what?
They wanted independence and they got it.
Independent nations have to sort their own problems out for themselves.
Or has the EU made nations forget how to do that?

The pound has slipped back again, as predicted.
Extension no.3 coming up it would seem.

You suggested that Ireland was attempting to scupper Brexit for their own political agenda, a united Ireland. A united Ireland obtained by coercive means and using Brexit to do so through the back door, is not the objective of the Irish government or the wish of the Irish people.


Please explain how the IRA made people's lives hell during the War of Independence.

All the usual rubbish and transparent trolling from you.

Where did you read "War of Independence" in my post?
It was during their fight for Irish independence.

The usual hot tempered and ill judged response from you.

That's the War of Independence, that was when the IRA were fighting for Irish independence. So could you please elaborate on how they made people's lives hell?

That was in America.

Ireland 1919-1921

Get over your Irish self!
That was The war of Irish independence, not The war of independence

Anyway, I just felt like giving you a dose of your own medicine.
It's not nice when you are passionate about something and the other poster refuses to engage..

You mean the American War of Independence also known as American Revolutionary War?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/blow-by-blow-timeline-of-the-war-of-independence-1.3742367

Just get over your Irish self!

Learn the difference between the IRA and the PIRA. Ask your "Irish wife" to explain it.

She did and I still don't see that much difference.
Both were murdering bastards.

Nowt wrong with the Irish! My grandmother was one. She was a wonderful woman according to my mum, and she would have known. Now, who would one trust? An Irish grandmother, who could keep a good catholic house on a pittance, and be proud of it, or an overweight old Etonian who outdoes bungalow Bill and is all bluster?

How were the IRA murdering bastards?

Ireland was conquered in 1169.
They kept fighting but by 1601 they were effectively overun.
Anyone who fought against and killed people after 1601 were effectively murdering bastards.
I lived through the years of PIRA terrorism.
They were, without question, murdering bastards.
Get over your Irish self and see the bigger picture.
For you, it is all about Ireland, you don't seem to care about the victims of your Irish murdering bastards.


And I completely agree.
I love them.
But Atch in her rage can't see this.
She doesn't even believe my wife is Irish, because she is so blind that she cannot believe that I would have my opinion with an Irish wife.

My father in law is dead now, but I loved him dearly.
We used to argue like mad about politics but still managed to have mutual respect for each other and we helped each other a lot, in different ways.

My mother in law is still alive, still pretty fit for her age and still doing what Irish grandmas do best.
Keeping the family strong, together and supporting each other.
You can still love a group of people whilst accepting their faults.
All my family and my wifes family were Catholic by the way.

I am pretty sure that atch will just disbelieve everything I have just posted and probably call me a troll too! :-)
I find her Irish passion both intolerable and loveable at the same time.....
But I just want to add that I also love Irish culture, Celtic art, music especially and passion.
Actually, many of those things also connect well with Poles.
I don't know about atch's relationship with her Polish husband but I can tell you that the relationship between my wife and I has been fiery at times,

Passionate too, in every sense of that word, but despite it all, we have two grown up kids, doing well, one grandson and have just celebrated our 30th wedding anniversary.

Yes, but Atch might point to similarities between Polish and Irish national movements striving to gain independence from their occupiers: Poles from Russians etc, Irish from English, later British. You support Polish endeavours in the past and reject Irish. She might think it is not fair.

What about the the Queen? I just seen her on the tele, it must be big news coz its all crickets here:)

Queen Elizabeth sets out PM Johnson's October 31 Brexit priority....[url=reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-parliament-debate/queen-elizabeth-sets-out-pm-johnsons-october-31-brexit-priority-idUSKBN1WS0QX][/url]

The queen usually gets her way?

Only 16 more days to Halloween, have you picked out your costume yet???

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Wouldn't that make any Pole who continued fighting after 1939 murderers too ? No fan of the IRA but they were trying to overturn foreign occupation

The only rage I see here is from you with your hysteria about 'murdering bastards'.


Because you don't demonstrate any of the insights, firsthand knowledge or understanding of Ireland, the Irish people, Irish history or politics which you would have if she were. On the other hand it's all stereotypical rubbish about Irish grannies with their 'toora-loora-loora, it's an Irish lullaby' and their fiery tempers,holding the family together, straight out of D'Arby O' Gill and the Little People or the opposite view of murdering bastards who hate the English.


Not much evidence of that in your murdering bastards comments.


Yet you needed your wife to explain the difference between the IRA and the Provisional IRA.


You mean the Provisional IRA and no normal Irish person is a fan of theirs either. The men and women who fought for Irish freedom a hundred years ago are known in Ireland as the Old IRA and are held in the greatest esteem, all of which Milo would know, if he did indeed have Irish in-laws.


Exactly Paw. By Milo's logic, the heroes of the Polish struggle during the partitions were murdering bastards.

Silly rubbish and nonsense from Milo as usual.

Latest news is that the UK will table a new set of proposals this morning to try to solve the customs and border issue. The DUP met with Johnson last night for an hour and a half and obviously agreed something that the DUP find acceptable.

And the usual narrow minded pro Irish tosh from Atch.
How you and other morons on here can compare Ireland to Poland is beyond belief.
Poland was formed 1,000 years ago.
Ireland?
Less than a hundred years ago....... ruled by England since the 11th century......
Before that Ireland was not a nation but a bunch of tribes.
I tried to be honest in my post.
It came from the heart, but your blinkered bias decided to deride it and ignore it.
You are a perfect example of the problem with Ireland.
Ireland belonged to Britain for nearly as long as Poland existed.
Get over yourself woman.

I thought I read about kings of Ireland. Or was I mistaken?

All done and dusted according to the Guardian, much as they (and me) hate the novelty of it all. The money markets are saying the fat lady is singing.

So I'm stuck here for the duration, because I wont have Mrs Dougpol being disrespected by those xenophobic scum aka the UK Home Office.

And Pritti Patel can go and fukk herself, painfully, the racist bitcch.

You were indeed mistaken.
They were not kings of Ireland at all, but just Irish kings.
There were many of them and some fought against each other.
The Irish never had a Piast or equivalent.

Oh, I see.

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Looks like an upward trend to me......