Coronavirus in Poland

My health care relative was vaccines already and my 70+ relative is scheduled fo the end of this month

Thanks Lenka....that's very helpful and a good start....

As far as we know it may be protection from radiation and who knows which biological warfare happening around us and we even don't know of it.

For control, mass media and the existential problems (economy) of everyday life are quite enough. Think. Let us be frank, NATO could flatten Serbia and many people in the USA and west of Europe would applaud without ever knowing reasons are false, without knowing their own governments would do the same to them. With media THEY could do everything. And they doing. But THIS around us is truly a RESET. More than just control. Its resources, new technologies, ecological problems they actually don't admit, conflicts between minor and great powers, etc, etc. It's all that those who have real information don't admit.


Why would we refuse the vaccine? If THEY want they will put something in the food, in water plants, etc. Use imagination. I guess, something is really in the air. Viruses, bacterias, or poisoned dust, who knows. But, it's a much bigger risk not to receive a vaccine than to refuse it.

Orban and soon to be Vucic are the probably the prime examples of that, but I dare say that the 'big story' of the 21st century will be China exporting their model successfully to the West.


Healthcare workers are mostly vaccinated now, they're now doing over 70's. I've heard from several sources that they're starting to ask for confirmation from over 60's as to whether they want to be vaccinated, so it seems that the over 60's group will start sooner rather than later.

Around 2m vaccines have been administered so far, and as of Friday, they've also starting to vaccinate people working in education, starting with those who have daily contact with kids that are in education (pre-school plus classes 1-3).

Vaccinations are taking place in different places, such as at local GP clinics, hospitals and private clinics - there's no general rule for this, as it depends on who signed a contract with the NFZ.

As for the amount of vaccines, Poland is still really lacking in them in general.

For now. Like gas and oil Balkan Stream, vaccines would come from the Balkan. Solution for major problems will come from Balkan as a key Geo-strategic point. Orban, being pragmatic, was just first to realize that so comes his friendship with Vucic.

No, no, no.... neither is really "Western"

I mean starting with David Rockefeller (the first in 1973) praising the results of the Cultural Revolution

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

As early as the late 1980s I heard of the attraction Western leaders felt for the "Chinese model" (from non-conspiracy types - super smart grad students who read tons and tons of political analysis and official policy papers that most people didn't realize existed....)

Look around you. What does West mean to you? If you don't live now in Hungary or in Serbia right now you are hardly in the West. No that there are no problems but we have a clear perspective.

At this moment Serbia donates around 5.000 doses of vaccines to Northern Macedonia, a small Slavic country (with 2 mil. populace) in the south of Balkan.

It's a real celebration on the Macedonian border. These are their first vaccines and they will today start to vaccinate workers of their medical sector. Ask now Macedonians where is the West and they will tell you it's Serbia. And truly, here is where European and Western civilization was born.

> b92/biz/vesti/srbija.php?yyyy=2021&mm=02&dd=14&nav_id=1811590

but you know Mafketis, in the end these people have more innocence than their order followers
who make all these things truly happen?
it is the boots on the ground
the order followers do this to their fellow humans

you cannot blame the leaders only
it is all the people on the ground supporting these systems and making them happen

Delphiandomine.....thankyou for your information it is very helpful....when you say 'depends on who signed a contract with the NFZ' is there something I should have done?

No, it's about health care providers, not patients.

But maybe call your clinic and ask them what to do.

Are you nuts? Celebrating vaccines?


You know Crow, we don't have time for this pity party anymore.
We have done this for thousands of years, and today live in the result of that.
Europeans should come together and stop all the crap about who is better or not.
Cheap talk, cheap superiority. Talk somebody down, think you are better, without having anything to do for it.
It is childish, and also very insecure, if you had some self-worth you did not have to talk others down to lift yourself up.
Plus, this way you are an easy target for anybody that helps you feed your ego, so they can use you against the others.
Better stop all this **** because a lot of crap is coming for us the coming years.
Oh, and wait, aren't we already in the middle of it?

Dumb little boy.
Where is your slavic/balkan fighting spirit against the current situation?

The faster we react the faster will end the inevitable reset.


Exactly. But it's not here where nazism or communism or other madness was invented. It is here where their dictate was projected. From here will come the cure, as the civilization was established from here.

I didn't underline that about civilization without the reason. It's good to know that. Too long ignorance of greedy people, without real competence, culture and spirit ruled us (and Slavs in general) just because they got to power in certain moments of history. Now they falling and real competence coming into focus.

Belgrade IS better than Brussels.

Lenka - thank you for the clarification

Don't know man, I think they are both full of ****.

A beautiful thing built as an art object and a warning/exhortation, though not in any sense official and irrelevant to the current crisis.


If not people, what are you suggesting?


Not during the pandemic, though the next flight somewhere for work is in a few weeks. The industry has slowed to almost frozen, however it does still go on, and there is still movement.

Is there something I am missing or was the end of March 3 million target a conservative estimate?

Still too slow of course and it took around a month to reach a million but if its taken 2 weeks to go from 1 million to 2 million, why would it take another 6 weeks to reach 3 million? Should be aiming for around 5 mil by then regardless of the delivery problems.

More likely a very rough guess based on the information at the time.


I think they're hoping for that and it does seem to be going quicker.

There's the first dose/second dose thing though which is an issue.

Why Both? If you live in the EU it's Brussels stealing from you, not Belgrade. Hay man, you have around 120.000 birocrats in EU/Brussels who should solve problems, provide vaccines.

An article

EU Covid incompetence leaves governments wanting vaccines, not excuses
Larry Elliott
> theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/31/eu-covid-incompetence-vaccines-not-excuses

The people of Europe don't want em.

Besides, they are the ones who create problems for the people, by locking down the economy.
People losing jobs, houses and sanity.

ft.com/content/c576e15f-e5b1-4369-a5f0-073b4466036f
Vaccine scepticism among medics sparks alarm in Europe and US

euronews.com/2021/01/22/from-vaccine-creation-to-trepidation-france-s-struggle-with-anti-vaxxers
From vaccine creation to trepidation: France's struggle with anti-vaxxers

vice.com/en/article/akdqqe/copenhagen-denmark-anti-vaxxer-lockdown-protest
Anti-Vaxxers Took to the Streets of Copenhagen and the Photos Are Intense

youtube.com/watch?v=9nR48GFSzdc
Germany fears attacks on vaccination centers +++ COVID restrictions spark riots in the Netherlands

english.elpais.com/science_tech/2020-11-16/just-24-of-spaniards-would-get-covid-vaccine-as-soon-as-possible-says-new-poll.html
Just 24% of Spaniards would get Covid vaccine as soon as possible
According to a survey carried out by 40dB for EL PAÍS, four in every 10 people in Spain believe there is a conspiracy behind the vaccinations

Most do, actually.

The refusal rate so far in the UK is around 1 in 100.

A few obscure demonstrations by cranks do not equate to "the people of Europe".

Just to remind you:

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That I telling to you. We DO NEED to detect where is the problem and find a solution. Belgrade already offering a better approach and logic.

Serbian PM says vaccination is about saving lives, not geo-politics
rs.n1info.com/english/news/serbian-pm-says-vaccination-is-about-saving-lives-not-geo-politics/

reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-serbia-vaccine-idUSKBN29O1M5
Serbia becomes first European country to use Chinese COVID vaccine for mass rollout

In Serbia, which has a population of about 7 million, 3,771 people have died from COVID-19 and 347,111 fell ill with it.

347.111 /7.000.000 = 4.9 % of the population got flu like symptoms in 11 months time, who at the same time got a positive PCR test
out of which
3.771 / 347.111 = 1% died of the ill group of 347.111 people

people dying who tested positive for covid with the PCR test, calculated on the total population as following:

3.771 died / 7.000.000 population = 0,0539% % of the population died, over a period of 11 months, who where tested positive with the covid PCR test, x days/weeks/months prior to death

macrotrends.net/countries/SRB/serbia/death-rate

Historical death rates Serbia

202013.2150.160%
201913.1940.170%
201813.1720.230%
201713.1420.230%
201613.1120.240%
201513.0810.230%
201413.0510.230%
201313.0210.420%
201212.9670.420%
201112.9130.410%
201012.8600.420%
200912.8060.420%
200812.7520.800%
200712.6510.800%
200612.5500.820%

Correction. We have an enormous rate of diaspora coming back to the country. Entire new city parts are being built. Even entire new settlements/towns are planned. Right at this moment, even people from Bosnia and Croatia who live in Britain seek if possible in any way to come to Serbia and not to regions of their origin in the former Yugoslavia.

The current population of Serbia is 8.715.385 as of Sunday, February 14, 2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data. And that is without the province of Kosovo and Metohija, where you have about 800.000 Albanians and 200.000 Serbs.

> worldometers.info/world-population/serbia-population/

Simply not true. The people of Poland certainly want them, as witnessed by the fact that we're seeing peaks of around 100,000 vaccines administered daily, and that's before registration has opened up for most people.

Human beings are herd animals...

If anything the opposite.

Let's not insult animals. There are associations for animal protection, you know.

A new study shows about 1 in 3 of American respondents won't get the vaccine.
When I went in my health center to get my yearly physical I ask my doctor if he got his vaccine.
He said, no, only about half of our staff got them by choice.
Why you may ask.
Principia Scientific International (a UK-based association that promotes independent scientific research) - 100,000 Doctors & Medical Professionals Oppose COVID-19 Vaccine, published December 16, 2020.
A peer-reviewed study contends the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention violated federal law by inflating Coronavirus fatality numbers.
The figures were inflated by at least 1,600%, according to the Public Health Initiative of the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge, which published the study, titled "COVID-19 Data Collection, Comorbidity & Federal Law: A Historical Retrospective."

The study asserts that the CDC willfully violated multiple federal laws, including the Information Quality Act, Paperwork Reduction Act and Administrative Procedures Act, reported the National File.

Oh and four people in Oregon have tested positive for the coronavirus after receiving both doses of the Covid-19 vaccine, health officials said.
If our governments quit their damn lying to us, maybe there wouldn't be so many conspiracy theories.

did they say time limit?

Vaccine makers have been up front all along in saying that the vaccine is intended to keep people out of the hospital and to keep them from dying from the virus. It is not a cure. Just like the flu shot is not a cure. Pure vaccine like the Polio vaccine is a one in a billion shot. They simply don't happen too often in life. People have a choice, get the vaccine or not. So let those who want it go to the front of the line and get it. Don't want it? Your choice.