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Coronavirus in Poland



amiga500
18 Mar 2021  #5341

aww thats sweet thanks.

jon357
18 Mar 2021  #5342

Todays stats: still increasing here in Poland.

And 9 UK and 8 Dutch athletes have taken ill after returning from Torun, amid complaints about poor precautions there.
insidethegames.biz/articles/1105588/british-athletics-concerned-covid-torun


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Novichok
18 Mar 2021  #5343

Oh, my God! Are we ever going to stop with those "cases"? Let me try one more time. If they were looking for moondust, with the instruments we have today, they would find it in you but that wouldn't mean that you are an astronaut.

Chemikiem
18 Mar 2021  #5344

I'm not looking to doubt you here,

Strange that he supposedly contracted it last March but in October he said this:

"I have taken the college kids mentality and have decided to go catch it intentionally so I can get over it and get on with my life."

polishforums.com/news/poland-coronavirus-85511/113/#msg1755543

I have a friend in her 40s who contracted Covid last year and was hospitalised for it. Previously very fit and healthy, her heart has been damaged, she has severe lung problems and ten months on, is unable to work. This is the reality of long covid and it makes me angry that someone so desperate for attention is lying about something so serious.

mafketis
18 Mar 2021  #5345

stats: still increasing here in Poland.

quoting positive test numbers with no context is a mug's game - dishonest and easily seen through...

The new cases are with increased levels of testing... (over 86,000 today) the more tests the more positive results (and testing more people increases the percentage of positives as well though not greatly)

In terms of new hospital admissions (by my calculation) the highest day was tuesday (about 1200), wednesday was about 730 and today about 660... so while the overall number is increasing the rate of increase isn't increasing (if that makes sense)

someone so desperate for attention

it would be sad if it weren't so transparently dishonest...

Braveheart16
18 Mar 2021  #5346

Chemikiem- Previously very fit and healthy, her heart has been damaged, she has severe lung problems and ten months on, is unable to work.

This is exactly how long Covid can seriously affect peoples lives and is something many people seem not to know much about or are reluctant to consider this as a real condition...it is a real with devasting consequences, which is in its early days and I just hope that science can find solutions soon.

Miloslaw
18 Mar 2021  #5347

@Chemikiem
@Braveheart16

Yeah, I think in Britain we are beating Covid, but this "Long Covid" could well be a long term problem.
We just.do not know enough about it and it seems to affect the younger middle aged most, 40 to 55.

JacekthePole
18 Mar 2021  #5348

@Miloslaw
Yes who knows what this long term covid will do. Quite scary really

Miloslaw
18 Mar 2021  #5349

@JacekthePole

Agreed.
Unkowns are always quite scary.

Spike31
19 Mar 2021  #5350

What is scary is how easy it is to control most of the society with such primitive social engineering techniques.

Take a new mutation of a flu and blew it out of proportions. Feed it to the masses and they will willingly do whatever you tell them to do.

If the "expert" told you that wearing a paper bag on your face would protect you from the 'deadly' virus you would wear it...oh wait, you did.

I blame mass media brainwashing, modern education that produces easy to manipulate halfwits, aging Western society and depleting testosterone levels in modern men for this sad picture of humanity.

Last weekend I when I went shopping I saw a young woman with ~2 yo daughter in my local Tesco. Both of them weren't wearing any face-rug.

I saw a fellow human being among dust-masked bots so I send her a smile. That young mother's got bigger balls and more common sense than 80% men on this thread.

Dirk diggler
19 Mar 2021  #5351

I blame mass media brainwashing, modern education that produces easy to manipulate halfwits, aging Western society and depleting testosterone levels in modern men

Naturally, we all know which certain group of people is responsible for pulling the strings with this...

PolAmKrakow
19 Mar 2021  #5352

As I said to my accountants just yesterday, numbers do not lie, the people counting them do. Deaths and rates of death are the only numbers that matter with COVID. This is the problem. Everyone talking about infection numbers.

Imagine the conversation every year if we talked about the flu this way!? No one would ever go to work and the world would stop. I know more than a dozen people that have had it. Two have died. One was 94 yrs old who had many other conditions, and the other in his 30's with a condition that was unknown until death. Most others in their 40's to 70's and not one with serious issues, only two showed any symptoms and that was only for a few days.

While it is terrible that some people have to deal with it long term, it is a miniscule amount of people. It is terrible people die from it, but people die from the flu every year.

As I said months ago, the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. The middle class is simply getting destroyed, and young people with great ideas are being kept from innovating in business because of this. The children are being dumbed down by lack of in person schooling.

I was pretty afraid of this a year ago. But after a year, I do not wear a mask outside any more unless going into a crowded area, and will not. Bought an inhaler just in case I get stopped and can say I have asthma, they have to prove I don't.

Nothing is going to change though until people take their lives back, and in general most have been turned into such PU$$*^S that will never happen.

amiga500
19 Mar 2021  #5353

Bill Gates GAVI group which includes Big Pharma are embedded in the WHO with all the same power and protections as countries. BillGateisstan. Since Big Pharma and and Gates are contributing so much money they have an undue influence. Originally Oxford University was going to open source their vaccine and anyone could produce it, just as Salk did with his polio vaccine. Since gates gives hundreds of millions of dollars to oxford he strongly suggested they don't do that and work with Astrazenica.

Also GAVI have diplomatic immunity in Switzerland. Ie can't be ivestigated or computers can't be seized. Gates admitted a few years ago that he is making 20 times more from vaccines than he did from his past Microsoft days. Hence one of the many reasons of the total lack of focus on early treatment for corona virus and scare tactics about the virus.

Novichok
19 Mar 2021  #5354

most have been turned into such PU$$*^S that will never happen.

...or brainless boot lickers. Following is almost effortless.

jon357
19 Mar 2021  #5355

.it is a real with devastating consequences, which is in its early days and I just hope that science can find solutions soon.

I hope so too.

it makes me angry that someone so desperate for attention is lying about something so serious.

The same. I lost a family member to Covid fairly early on in the pandemic. People lying about it for attention are the scum of the earth.

the.rich.are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. The middle class is simply getting destroyed, and young people with great ideas are being kept from

And millions have clinical depression, careers are on hold or are wrecked, older people are isolated at home, relationships are deteriorating due to cabin fever, businesses are failing and the world has quickly become a worse place.

Yet cretinous individuals spout conspiracy crap from the sidelines about 'great resets' or made up stuff about Bill Gates or alternative 'miracles cures', anti-vaxxer woo, China, attempts to control society for no obvious reason or a mysterious 'them' who are allegedly behind the world's ills.

With the vaccination programme, there's light at the end of the tunnel. There is however another enemy; human negativity, deliberate lying and inventing sordid conspiracy theories.

mafketis
19 Mar 2021  #5356

conspiracy crap from the sidelines about 'great

it's not conspiracy crap when it's on the cover of Time magazine (and the people who want to engineer are completely open and up front about it).

How is this a 'conspiracy theory' ?

weforum.org/great-reset/

quote: "There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative."

they're saying it out loud and to your face and you don't believe them?

Some people here have an unhealthy attachment to weird fantasies about Jews, etc.

You, on the other hand, have an unhealthy detachment from reality....

jon357
19 Mar 2021  #5357

How is this a 'conspiracy theory' ?

By deliberately misinterpreting a sustainable business initiative promoted by an NGO and spinning lies about it online, that's how.

Some people here have an unhealthy attachment to weird fantasies about Jews, etc.

That is clear.

an unhealthy detachment from reality....

That is not. What is your 'reality'? Does it involve a 'them'?

mafketis
19 Mar 2021  #5358

a sustainable business initiative

talk about a conspiracy theories!!!!!!

Meanwhile: weforum.org/communities/gfc-on-the-new-agenda-for-education-and-skills

"There is intense demand for technology-based solutions, with digital learning remaining as a fundamental part of the education and skills system"

Demand from who? Not people wanting an education.... and mostly not people providing education.

"Key themes to address include skills anticipation, contemporary pedagogy and market-aligned curricula"

in other words... foist job training to educators.... (I can't find any other meaning there, can you?)

What is your 'reality'?

Recognition that financial (and other self-styled) elites have their own agenda (to give themselves more power) and the well-being of myself and people like you or me are not part of that...

Novichok
19 Mar 2021  #5359

I lost a family member to Covid fairly early on in the pandemic.

We all lose family members to something. Somehow, the victims of covid are more equal and more special. Almost heroes.

jon357
19 Mar 2021  #5360

in other words... foist job training to educators.

So you disagree with that particular NGOs suggestion. As is your right. I'm largely ambivalent, however their approach to the 21st Century Skills concept is creditable, if overambitious.

financial ... elites.have.their own agenda (to give themselves more power) and.the well-being of myself and people like you or me are not part of that...

Again, not unreasonable. It's a stretch though to say that the response to Covid is somehow predicated by this or that so-called 'elites' are as well organised as some people think..

Novichok
19 Mar 2021  #5361

Covid is somehow predicated

Not predicated but exploited. We don't deliberately cause power outages but the looters are out there in seconds when it happens. The privileged scum like Fauci and Gates are covid looters.

mafketis
19 Mar 2021  #5362

so-called 'elites' are as well organised as some people think..

They're hopeless bunglers!!!!! How does von der Leyen still have a job? So many countries have fumbled and reflexively used lockdowns because they have no idea what else to do... (give politicians a nail and watch them try to find a hammer).

It's called "elite failure" (when a large majority in positions of power are really not up to the job). It's a real crisis in many countries... Boris Johnson and Florida governor De Santis have fumbled and failed less than most... but apart from that a dismal performance all the way around.

Not predicated but exploited

Essentially yes. They were ready with their hare-brained schemes and failplans waiting for an opportunity to pounce....

jon357
19 Mar 2021  #5363

Boris Johnson

His only 'success' is the rollout of the vaccination programme. Everything else so far has been mediocre.

His Polish counterparts have fared even less well. Not that I'm complaining about the plummeting PLN right now...

mafketis
19 Mar 2021  #5364

His only 'success' is the rollout of the vaccination programme

He also delivered a full Brexit against an EU and pseudo-allies like Ireland that were doing everything they could to stop it.

So, he's not doing bad in getting things done that he was elected to do.

Polish counterparts have fared even less well.

Crises expose incompetence that good times can never reveal.....

jon357
19 Mar 2021  #5365

He also delivered a full Brexit

Exactly. Cowed by the brexit ultras in his party to act against the best interests of the country.

Crises expose incompetence that good times can never reveal.....

This is true. And PiS have not acquitted themselves well in the Covid crisis.

The currency is plummeting, the economy is stagnating, and most of the less negative predictions for the economy are over-optimistic at the moment.

It will be interesting to see what decisions re. lockdowns are made for after 9/4.

mafketis
19 Mar 2021  #5366

to act against the best interests of the country.

How so? He was following the expressed will of the electorate. You either believe in democracy or you don't.....

Joker
19 Mar 2021  #5367

You either believe in democracy or you don't.....

Its been well established that hes a marxist.

PolAmKrakow
19 Mar 2021  #5368

@jon357
Plummeting PLN you say? PiS says it strong. How could they be wrong? The dollar has only gained 7% in a week on the pln. And trending to get really clobbered after this new lockdown begins tomorrow. Looking forward to it being back around 4.2 like it was last year. Buy all the pln you can and you will make at least 15 to 20% by June.

jon357
19 Mar 2021  #5369

expressed will of the electorate.

Well.,.

PiS says it strong. How could they be wrong? The dollar has only gained 7% in a week on the pln.

5.35 PLN to the GBP. I keep blinking to see if it's a dream!

Joker
19 Mar 2021  #5370

5.35 PLN to the GBP.

Holy Cow!

Things are bad for everyone with these lockdowns which dont work and actually causes more harm.

I refuse to listen to the "experts" like Dr. Fauci who has a political agenda.


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