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Coronavirus in Poland



amiga500
22 Mar 2021  #5461

Hey, lockdown don't work, people should do as they want and yet you are complaining people had weddings...

It's the new PF game. Count the minutes and hours in which Polamkrakow completely and nonsensically contradicts himself. No wonder he is begging for goverment handouts for his businesss if he can't keep track of what's going on!

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2021  #5462

@Lenka
Not complaining, just pointing out how stupid these PiS followers and party line donkeys are
@Amiga
Begging while I drive my new car and eat great sea food. Yes, life is hard and I understand they dont have such things in the Gulag.

amiga500
22 Mar 2021  #5463

Begging while I drive my new car and eat great sea food.

Good. Thank PiS for lowering corporate taxes, which motivated you to move to Poland. Funny how you never moved when PO was in power yet all you do is criticize PiS. Maybe you were afraid the post-communists noklematura would steal all your money?

Ironisde
22 Mar 2021  #5464

just pointing out how stupid these PiS followers and party line donkeys are

Duh! most people are stupid. Like maybe 20 % of a populace is capable of thinking for themselves in any given country. Don't tell me you are the wise one with your LGBT BS!

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2021  #5465

@Ironisde
Please point out one instance of LGBT support. I dont care what those people do, none of my business. But as a party line donkey you might have a hard time reading my posting and comprehending them fully.

@amiga500
Ok troll. PiS have raised taxes every year, ZUS has been raised every year. New taxes introduced almost on a monthly basis here. Clearly you know nothing. My motivation was paying lower taxes than I paid in the USA. There is a difference, because PiS and their actions dont motivate me to stay.

How well have they handled the virus? How many vaccinations again? How many bankruptcy's? How many deaths because PiS refused to prepare for what was obviously coming all summer? People want to blame Trump for not requiring masks? How about blaming PiS for not doing anything for 5 months of summer while the virus was obviously spreading more quickly? Now the economy is going in the toilet because of them. How about a little of that truth with your cheap russian vodka?

Poloniusz
22 Mar 2021  #5466

Nothing. Nor does the CDC, nor do any far away foreign agencies. They're half a world away and have crises of their own.

The smug ignorance displayed on this forum is simply breathtaking at times.

Poland strikes deal to produce Novavax COVID-19 vaccine

"Polish biotech firm Mabion said it had signed a framework agreement with Novavax for the transfer of the U.S. company's COVID-19 vaccination technology."

money.yahoo.com/poland-strikes-deal-produce-novavax-114227151.html

So while the trolling British expat community lives in its tiny ageing marginalized social bubble hoping for the beer gardens to reopen the Polish decision makers in Poland are assuredly in active discussions with US government officials and biotechnology boardrooms to make things happen and get things done.

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2021  #5467

@Poloniusz
Old news, and Polish decision makers had nothing to do with it. The PRIVATE company negotiated and made the deal, Polish Government is finincing expansion because if they didn't and news got out there would be riots in the streets. Oh wait there already are riots in the streets.

johnny reb
22 Mar 2021  #5468

London accuses Europe of acting like an 'enemy state'.
The EU and UK are on the brink of a vaccine trade war as London accuses Europe of acting like an 'enemy state'.
Come on guys, ya gotta get along now as we are all in this together.

Crow
22 Mar 2021  #5469

Good point. Poland can see now how they manage that "pandemic" and the "refugees"

Corona is for Poland good almost equally as Gavrilo Princip. Salvation in the last moment.

jon357
22 Mar 2021  #5470

Gavrilo Princip

Who died of Tuberculosis.

Crow
22 Mar 2021  #5471

Yes. After they walked over his face and body.

But he died satisfied, as written by the Austrian prison doctor.

``Our shadows will be walking through Vienna, strolling through the court, frightening lords.``
* written by Gaavrilo on the prison wall

jon357
22 Mar 2021  #5472

they

Who? Virologists dealing with the covid crisis in Poland?

Braveheart16
22 Mar 2021  #5473

PolAmKrakow - How many vaccinations again? How many bankruptcy's? How many deaths because PiS refused to prepare for what was obviously coming all summer?

Absolutely....it's strange isn't it that all of a sudden we are seeing PIS robots on TV tonight...including the Premier talking from a hospital annex or some such place, which I presume is being converted into a Covid ward, pretending to show concern and seemingly despearate to paper over the cracks with words of comfort etc.....it really is trying to salvage the situation after the horse has bolted..(first time I have seen PIS talk about what they are doing about Covid in an apparent meaningful way...should have happened last year)

It also looks like PIS are using the British Covid strain as an excuse for high numbers of infections, (the numbers were already rising long before this) but I accept that it is a dangerous consequence of the original strain......additionally PIS are pushing the idea of shortages of vaccine for the explosion in numbers of infections....again this is all smoke and mirrors.....should have negotiated supplies long ago (or whatever PIS need to do to get adequate supplies from Brussels) Pretty poor management of the country....

kondzior
22 Mar 2021  #5474

New corona ban in Germany: forbidden to stand still
svtplay.se/klipp/30433356/polisens-jakt-efter-coronasyndare-uppror-i-tyskland?modalId=8Pv4GmW
In parts of Germany, it is now forbidden to stand still outdoors. Police fine those who violate the ban.

jon357
22 Mar 2021  #5475

(the numbers were already rising long before this) but I accept that it is a dangerous consequence of the original strain

And of course, the more cases (viral hosts) there are, the more mutations occur.

I've just got back from the shop. No real difference between now and a few weeks ago. It looks like we're going to see an explosion of cases (with consequent mutations) soon, and since churches are still unfortunately open more or less as usual, the Easter Triduum will be a superspreader event.

Novichok
22 Mar 2021  #5476

will be a superspreader event.

Great news. Even better news would be that the China virus has spread everywhere and infected all 7 billion people. Then, there would be no need for lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and the UK ruling mob of confused idiots would not be telling you who you can bang tonight. In Germany, you could stop to rest without fear of getting thrown into a gulag.

No, I am not wishing anyone dead because very few died from corona. Many with but very few from.
Almost forgot, there would be no need to print trillions, either.
Am I a genius or what?

jon357
22 Mar 2021  #5477

It also looks like PIS are using the British Covid strain as an excuse for high numbers of infections

It's from their playbook, to always, but always, blame someone else.

Pretty poor management of the country....

And when cases explode, and new mutations occur here, people will increasingly question their ostrich-like mentality.

Novichok
22 Mar 2021  #5478

And when cases explode,

Then you want them to do what? Demand three masks? Print more money? Is that it?
It's like putting a mask on a volcano or resisting a fart. Ain't gonna work long term.

Joker
22 Mar 2021  #5479

It's from their playbook, to always, but always, blame someone else.

Indeed. Just like Biden blames Trump for the border crisis he created and then turns around and takes credit for the vaccine. If it weren't for operation warp speed there would not be any vaccine for the lib liars to enjoy. Just remember to thank Trump when the needle goes in.

Even better news would be that the China virus has spread everywhere and infected

Its too bad it didnt only infect the Chinese, having their bio weapon backfire would be a well deserved lesson.

jon357
22 Mar 2021  #5480

ust remember to thank Trump when the needle goes in.

Why would anyone over here thank anyone over there for a vaccine.

like Biden blames Trump for the border crisis he created and then turns around

And the sad thing is that you probably even half-believe what you just wrote.

their bio weapon

Do you think it's a "bio weapon"?

amiga500
22 Mar 2021  #5481

An article friendly to ivermectin in a well respected French business magazine, wondering about the Government's passivity. translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=capital.fr/economie-politique/ivermectine-la-france-passe-t-elle-a-cote-dun-medicament-efficace-contre-la-covid-19-1397573

Novichok
22 Mar 2021  #5482

This is how fearmongers operate...Quoting kitv.com:

3 Hawaii residents fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are infected with the coronavirus

Translation: Oh my God, we all are gonna die!!!

Those who will actually bother to read on will be relieved to see this:

Doctors KITV4 spoke with said they're not surprised and people should not be alarmed.
Physicians say the vaccine doesn't prevent infection but it does lower the risk of hospitalization and severe symptoms.


Duh!

chrisshrew
23 Mar 2021  #5483

I see there are a few overly pessimistic predictions being made that don't make much sense to be honest. Worries about a third wave in the UK for instance when over half the population have been vaccinated and the lockdown only partially lifted doesn't sound realistic. Perhaps with international travel the caution is more understandable but the idea that some restrictions will be kept in place for years is delusional. Hardly anyone in Britain is going to follow any restrictions there after those who want it get their first never mind their second jab.

Elsewhere in Europe of course its a bit more complicated, but the suggestion that lockdown may continue through the year until February next year throughout the continent is ridiculous. Most of the most vulnerable are likely to be vaccinated well before the autumn and the warmer weather will bring cases down.

euronews.com/2021/03/22/lockdowns-are-not-going-to-be-over-by-summer-says-global-health-expert

Hopefully these claims are just so people keep their feet on the ground and don't get too carried away but there seems to be a lot of unrealistic and unachievable targets or predictions being set when it comes to the return of normality.

jon357
23 Mar 2021  #5484

the idea that some restrictions will be kept in place for years is delusional.

This is true. They're desperate to get rid of restrictions which damage the economy and society.

Worries.about.a.third wave in the UK for instance when over half the population have been vaccinated and the lockdown only partially lifted doesn't sound realistic

The issue however, as Boris 'Pennywise' Johnson said, is that if there's another wave (with consequent mutations due to more hosts) on the continent, it could spread to the UK (or as he said "alas, it could wash up on our shores, alas"). Cases are rocketing in Poland (and contrary to what someone said earlier, the number of cases matters a lot due to the likelihood of more mutations emerging). Nevertheless, travel restrictions are extreme. I've just had to arrange a test here in PL before travel, a Day 2 and Day 8 test from a specified provider (paid in advance, £200) there, get a control number for the test and include that control number in a Locator Form which is scannable at the border and before travel. If Poland (or the country I'm changing planes in) is added to the Red List before travel, that would mean 10 days in a government approved hotel, payable in advance. Even without that, they check that you're quarantining at a specificed address. The travel rules are annoying and strict, however cases are falling there. Any more tightening of the rules, and there'll be almost no travel at all.

Most of the most vulnerable are likely to be vaccinated well before the autumn and the warmer weather will bring cases down.

Also true. In the UK, the vulnerable are all vaccinated now, and my category, not old, not ill, have all received the NHS letter with a code to register. In Poland, they'd better get a move on.

Crow
23 Mar 2021  #5485

How things stand we are with Covid for a very long. This will last

Its too bad it didnt only infect the Chinese, having their bio weapon

But Jokere how do you know its Chinese and at it a bio weapon?

Joker
23 Mar 2021  #5486

You may trust the Chinese, but their actions speak volumes over their words.. Same a Serb President, kiss kiss, can anyone suck up any further that this??? What little respect I had for Serbia was totally lost after I seen that!

suggestion that lockdown may continue through the year until February ne

Its all about the lefties trying to control you. The whole UK will be vaccinated by then, same as the US, where youre still supposed to wear not one but two masks! lol

Dr. Fauci is a political pundit and a fraud.


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mafketis
23 Mar 2021  #5487

And of course, the more cases (viral hosts) there are, the more mutations occur.

Government policies seemed to be designed to nourish the virus and allow it to mutate, people should have been informed about how to protect themselves (and aid given to those who would need to isolate) and then let the virus burn through the population. It would have been over had that happened....

In relatively good news today the percentage of positive tests (more important than the raw numbers) has reduced to under 24% (from just over 30 percent over the last few days).

I think hospital intakes will remain high for a few days but hopefully the number of positive test results has crested....

Novichok
23 Mar 2021  #5488

Government policies seemed to be designed to nourish the virus

You just accused the Polish covid terrorists of genocide.

mafketis
23 Mar 2021  #5489

not genocide (and not only Poland)

maybe geronticide (pruning the social security rolls as it were).

But the idea is clearly to keep the lockdowns going as long as possible to destroy small businesses (for the sake of big business) and to destroy insitutions like public education in favor of paid online services (that are crap on a stick).

don't look at what they say... look at the results of their policies.... that's what they wanted to do.

jon357
23 Mar 2021  #5490

maybe geronticide (pruning the social security rolls as it were).

A friend (who's a firm ex-smoker) maintains that the government's luke warm policies on smoking are in part to do with the fact that smokers pay in the same state pension contributions however very often live to collect far less of the money back than a non-smoker.

Government policies seemed to be designed to nourish the virus and allow it to mutate,

This will happen, and the Easter Triduum will probably be a superspreader event.

They'll probably pass a law threatening to jail any doctor who calls it "The Polish Mutation".


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