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johnny reb
29 Mar 2021  #5701

Amish folk who gave the finger to lockdowns and masks.

Really, when I go to the Amish bakery all the Amish are wearing masks.
When they come to the big box stores in town they are wearing their masks.

No numbers?

Pretty simple to google the graphs that show the reduction but I ain't doing your homework for you.
It's not like a genius to be wrong twice in one hour. :-/

Novichok
29 Mar 2021  #5702

If masks and lockdowns worked there would be no waves. Only one - the first one.
The bootlickers are still waiting for the bad numbers that were supposed to come from the Super Bowl.
Besides, bootlickers always talk "cases" or infections.
The only numbers that count are deaths among healthy and under 80. The rest is life plus Darwin.

johnny reb
29 Mar 2021  #5703

If masks and lockdowns worked there would be no waves.

Is it possible if masks and lockdowns didn't work the waves would have been much much bigger ?

Floyd's trial to convict his killer just started on live t.v.
Much more worth while then arguing with a genius.

kondzior
29 Mar 2021  #5704

Is it possible if masks and lockdowns didn't work the waves would have been much much bigger ?

When they need to imitate new "wave" they just increase amount of tests since they now perfectly that much more are infected, only it does sh!t to most of them. So mortality rate is also a complete lie, cause number of infected is much higher overall.

Also I wonder what is the things they disperse from planes? Known as chemtrails...

jon357
29 Mar 2021  #5705

imitate new "wave" they just increase amount of tests

They also measure hospitalisations, not that facts interest you.

Is it possible if masks and lockdowns didn't work the waves would have been much much bigger ?

Very. The whole point of them is to slow the spread and reduce the number of hosts and therefore mutations.

chemtrails

Codswallop.

johnny reb
29 Mar 2021  #5706

There was never a necessity to lockdown kids.

So you are claiming that children should be allowed to frequent the public, catch it and bring it home to Dad & Mom ?

Novichok
29 Mar 2021  #5707

Lockdowns are legalized theft by inflation and should be private. Scared? Lock yourself up in the basement and get things by truck.

kondzior
29 Mar 2021  #5708

They also measure hospitalisations

They just admit more people to hospitals. If there are not enough "cases", they can use any amount of actors or extras.

This "pandemic" has been way too successful for the elites to ever allow things to go back to normal.

jon357
29 Mar 2021  #5709

admit more people to hospitals

When more people require it.

any amount of actors or extras.

Are you actually serious about that statement?

Do you believe in alien abductions too?

Braveheart16
29 Mar 2021  #5710

Novichok -Yeah, what is the covid reduction by locking life down?

Well it would be less than if you had no lockdown.....I think you ought to speak with the specialists on this as they are the ones who know about these things....

mafketis
29 Mar 2021  #5711

China doesn't make policy for the U.K.

Not directly.... it's called soft power (backed by hard power).

tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/china-covid-lockdown-propaganda

Novichok
29 Mar 2021  #5712

Well it would be less than if you had no lockdown...

"Less" doesn't cut it. Lockdowns have their price. A nation that is going to pay it has the right to know what that price - in trillions, in the US - is going to buy.

As crude as it first looks, the question boils down to this:

How many millions are we prepared to spend to postpone one death for an unknown number of months?

jon357
29 Mar 2021  #5713

soft power

That doesn't really apply in this case; they took the advice of the Chief medical Officer above everything else.

Anyway, it's worked and here, the light at the end of the tunnel is visible.

Novichok
29 Mar 2021  #5714

the light at the end of the tunnel is visible.

Without any guarantees that the next tunnel is not just a year or less away.

That comment, the bootlickers never touch because they know very well that lockdowns are single-shot muskets.

jon357
29 Mar 2021  #5715

speak with the specialists on this

Agreed. Too many armchair theorists who mouth off on social media whereas the only opinions that count are those of the specialists who are tasked with dealing with this crisis.

Novichok
29 Mar 2021  #5716

Too many armchair theorists who mouth off

Too many bootlickers who mouth off what they accepted on faith - with no references to reproducible, peer-reviewed tests or numerical data from the experiment we call life. Or opposing views as expressed by other scientists.

God knows we have more covid data than at any time in the past. Except for one tiny little detail: you have to dig for it real hard and still without any guarantee that you will find it. Like "from" vs "with" - the difference being as wide as Grand Canyon.

They either hide or have no incentive to collect it. I know because I called the hospital where I live and they admitted that from and with is the same thing to them. That hospital is the NCH in Arlington Heights, IL.

mafketis
29 Mar 2021  #5717

Chief medical Officer

Was he the one who admired the chinese response and was giddy that China ally Italy had copied it?

it's worked

so you hail Xi Jinping architect of lockdowns?

jon357
29 Mar 2021  #5718

Was he the one who

The one who has to come up with a pathway and who is accountable if it fails.

Which it didn't, given the drop in hospitalisations and the easing of restrictions step by step, which started today.

Novichok
29 Mar 2021  #5719

who is accountable if it fails.

Nobody is accountable for nothing. A state governor packed seniors with covid like sardines. Many died but he is still a governor. Poland is not different.

That is why these crooks say two opposite things within a couple of days to cover their butts and when pressed quote the one that fits better.

Spike31
29 Mar 2021  #5720

It's "science" so what's the problem

Haha, science :-). Most of the restrictions and especially the reaction to the "pandemic" of a dumber part of a society was nothing short of cultist.

Take your average idiot and convince him that by following the set of [often contradicting] rules imposed by the "experts" and TV talking heads he will belong to an elite of smart and scientifically minded group of people.

He/she will obediently follow the dumbest orders and lecture the others to do so in order to not lose his/her newly acquired 'elite' status.

And the lower is his/her real level of intelligence/education/true social status the more hardcore follower he will become.

Novichok
30 Mar 2021  #5721

his/her real level of intelligence/education/true social status

And that explains why it's the teachers who form the bootlicking brigade here - the most uncreative, most obedient, and most government-dependent "profession" of all, and not one bit better than bus drivers.

Joker
30 Mar 2021  #5722

Fauci is a fraud. Did anyone see him taking credit for producing the vaccine?


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amiga500
30 Mar 2021  #5723

and not one bit better than bus drivers.

Bus drivers continued to courageously work during the pandemic, whilst teachers hide behind their skirts and refuse to go back to work even when children are suffering mental illness from lack of socialising.

mafketis
30 Mar 2021  #5724

teachers hide behind their skirts and refuse to go back to work.

In English speaking countries teachers who refuse to teach should be fired. Alternately, if they're going to withhold their competitive advantage (physical presence)... why pay first world wages for a job that could be outsourced to places like India, the Philippines or Africa?

If online "education" doesn't need local teachers in the classroom then outsource it.

chrisshrew
30 Mar 2021  #5725

So, negative tests prior to flights only valid if its from a Schengen country. Talk about illogical, what has the Schengen zone got to do with the virus? Sounds like just a way to rip people off. The tests are expensive enough as it is without making them invalid. Certainly makes sense to wait a bit for the weather of late Spring to hopefully change the situation.

jon357
30 Mar 2021  #5726

negative tests prior to flights only valid if its from a Schengen country.

That's only about avoiding quarantine. Travellers from outside Schengen also need a negative pre-flight test but have to do the quarantine.

A bit like in the U.K. with the exemption for travellers from Ireland and the Channel Islands.

teachers who refuse to teach should be fired

Capitalistic.

Spike31
30 Mar 2021  #5727

Certainly makes sense to wait a bit for the weather of late Spring to hopefully change the situation.

The overall situation won't change with the weather as much it will change with the rising anger and civil disobedience of a disillusioned society.

Politicians will change their minds only under social pressure and fear of losing power. That's what has happened in Germany recently when Merkel apologized and withdraw from the planned lockdown on Easter. She did that under the pressure from common Germans and tanking support for CDU.


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mafketis
30 Mar 2021  #5728

Capitalistic.

That's how we do things in America, comrade.

jon357
30 Mar 2021  #5729

I notice that travellers to Poland can now take a test on arrival at the airport (regardless of where they're arriving from) and if it is negative, avoid quarantine. This seems easier than the UK's Test to Release scheme.

For some reason students are excluded fro the requirement to test which is odd.

Novichok
30 Mar 2021  #5730

why pay first-world wages

Like these:
ballotpedia.org/Township_High_School_District_211_employee_salaries

as much it will change with the rising anger and civil disobedience

...which is what I have been saying here since day one. The ruling mafia, aka "our legal representatives", uses physical force through their proxies - the police - and that is why violence is the only thing these thieves understand and fear. Laws do not apply to them.

Just curious, is there even one government parasite anywhere on the globe who didn't get paid his regular salary since the outbreak?


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