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Coronavirus in Poland



Atch
27 Apr 2021  #6181

There seems to be a correlation in vaccination and a month or so of increased serious infection numbers

A quarter of the population has received their first dose in Ireland and case numbers have been falling steadily for the last four months. But maybe that's because we haven't eased the restrictions at all during that time. For example you can't have visitors to your home but you can meet with one other household outdoors. Two fully vaccinated people are allowed to meet indoors but have to wait for two weeks after they've been vaccinated.

Tacitus
27 Apr 2021  #6182

Cause there are a lot of studies that show they don't.

Such as? Because studies have shown that lockdowns do work.

reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-lockdowns-idUSKBN23F1G3

There seems to be a correlation in vaccination and a month or so of increased serious infection numbers]

For one, people seem to underestimate how many people need to be vaccinated in order to reach her immunity (around 80-90%). With maybe 25% being vaccinated, most European countries are still far away from her immunity. Because with 25% people vaccinated, there are still 75% who can catch the virus. Additionally there are new mutations that are even mlre infectious than the previous one. Finally there is also complacency involved, many countries have started to ease restrictions despite insufficient vaccination rates and are now paying the price.

mafketis
27 Apr 2021  #6183

today's numbers

percent of positive test results: 8.81.30 % (of 64,800 tests ... this is well under one third the percentage that a similar number of tests would have a few weeks ago....

hospital admissions: -212 (not that many but last Tuesday had an increase, so now it's 7 days in a row with negative numbers... so good

deaths: 460 (too many but down from last week...)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 472 (down 9 from yesterday)

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Spike31
27 Apr 2021  #6184

But yeah, what do those guys know compared to someone with a calculator...

I'm armed with logic, common sense, AND calculator.

And I'm not on the payroll of big pharma or a government bureaucrat. That's more than most of the "experts" can say


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Spike31
27 Apr 2021  #6185

That is not the "death rate". That might be the "died with rate" but its no way a killed rate

Yes, I know. I wanted to demonstrate that even by counting the artificially inflated and blown out of proportions official numbers it is still a disease with very low mortality rates.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2021  #6186

today's numbers

Peanuts, here are some real numbers:
India cases
Updated Apr 27 at 7:05 AM local

Confirmed
17,643,310
+322,873
Deaths
197,955
+2,775
Recovered
14,552,845
+251,761

"the sources I use are current"

Cargo pants
27 Apr 2021  #6187

India cases

Those are botched Govt numbers,actually they maybe 5 times more.People who die in the slums are unaccounted for.Its really bad there now.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2021  #6188

.Its really bad there now.

This new vaccine that you haven't heard of yet may be a game changer for them.

msn.com/en-us/health/medical/the-most-promising-coronavirus-vaccine-you-ve-never-heard-of/ar-BB1g5XT9?ocid=msedgdhp

It's the worlds moral duty to help them.

Novichok
27 Apr 2021  #6189

A couple of days back, I questioned the "science" of 6 feet and suggested that it's a product of rectal activities on the part of the ignorant, let's do something, covid morons.

Sure enough, a recent study confirmed my suspicions and showed that 6 vs 60 makes no damn difference. If it's in the air, you will suck it right in because that stupid mask is good for fishing, not to catch viruses. If that 6 feet mattered, there would be no more than 20% plane occupancy and no elbow-to-elbow packing.

But, the obedient, never say how come sheep never said how come it's 6, took it as gospel and printed a billion of those idiotic floor stickers and trained the distance zombies to look at others like they were lepers.

I agree with the poster who wrote that masking up kids is child abuse.

chrisshrew
27 Apr 2021  #6190

people seem to underestimate how many people need to be vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity (around 80-90%).

While opinions differ on this various sources suggest that 70% vaccination is the threshold for herd immunity, providing that includes both vaccines if required and perhaps a week or two for the immunity to build up. That's not to say that 80 or 90% won't be achieved of course but I think we have to realistic in accepting that a certain number of people won't or can't get it.

Novichok
27 Apr 2021  #6191

the threshold for herd immunity,

Herd immunity and a mirage are the same: you never get there because both are an illusion - one natural and the other a tool to manipulate and postpone.

Even if the numbers said you reached that mysterious herd immunity, the next goal post will be the unvaccinated - the people we must protect no matter the cost.

If it will take another trillion or two, it's only money, isn't it?

pawian
27 Apr 2021  #6192

Herd immunity and a mirage are the same: you never get there because both are an illusion

I thought you were a scientist before you retired? Herd immunity isn `t a myth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

mafketis
27 Apr 2021  #6193

Herd immunity isn `t a myth.

I think he was referring to the World Health Organization suddenly re-defining herd immunity around vaccination several months ago....

Do keep up...

Novichok
27 Apr 2021  #6194

I think he was referring to the World Health Organization suddenly re-defining

...to the sound of that bucket rolling down the road aka a moving goal post.
Was it Fauci who said that masks are useless or some fascist hell-bent on destroying Western "democracies"?

BTW, "science' is numbers. Did any mask-hole here ever see mask specs expressed in numbers, not with "they work pretty well"?

Tacitus
27 Apr 2021  #6195

differ on this various sources suggest that 70% vaccination is the threshold for herd immunity,

From what I have read, the problem appears to be that the new mutants are so insanely contageous that more than 70% will be required to achieve herd immunity.

Novichok
28 Apr 2021  #6196

that more than 70% will be required to achieve herd immunity.

1. And achieve what once we achieve that unknown herd immunity? What are we going to be allowed then?
2. Since the virus mutates insanely, herd immunity mutates, too. Right? And masks are forever, aren't they?

Maggiely
28 Apr 2021  #6197

Merged:

SHUT UP YOUR MOUTH, DON'T MAKE FAKE NEWS ABOUT COVID-19


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pawian
28 Apr 2021  #6198

And masks are forever, aren't they?

Yes. Go to a beautician and order a permanent make up that will like like a mask.

mafketis
28 Apr 2021  #6199

today's numbers

percent of positive test results: 12.40 % (of 71,200 tests ... so the new normal is below 15%....

hospital admissions: -1334 (very big fall, now it's 8 days in a row with negative numbers... so good

deaths: 636 (too many but over 100 fewer than last Wednesday... usually the day of the week with the worst numbers)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 452 (down 20 from yesterday)

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Braveheart16
28 Apr 2021  #6200

Good to see less hospital admissions in Poland, but not good to see an increase in deaths.....could the two be connected....are infected people who need a hospital bed being told to stay at home.....could this be the reason for the death figure to continue to be high....?

mafketis
28 Apr 2021  #6201

could this be the reason for the death figure to continue to be high....?

No. The thing is not to look at daily numbers by themselves... Wednesday (very occasionally Thursday) is the day with the highest number and Sunday, Monday the days with the lowest numbers.

What's good news is that the numbers are declining week to week so this Wednesday (while still high) is significantly lower than last Wednesday's number.

kondzior
28 Apr 2021  #6202

As we all know, any death with covid in the blood is always a covid death. But any death with the RNA injection in the blood is not a vaccine death.

Spike31
28 Apr 2021  #6203

new mutants are so insanely contageous

I feel you, @Tacitus, but that's insensitive. I prefer to call them dust-maskers

Novichok
28 Apr 2021  #6204

Nearly all 65,000 "covid" deaths in Poland occured in the last 7 months.
Does it mean that Poland has 65,000 fewer people than it would have if not for the China virus? Or is it a toe tag game?

Spike31
28 Apr 2021  #6205

COVID Nurse Explains Becoming A Whistleblower: 'I Recorded Them Murdering Patients'

humansarefree.com/2021/04/covid-nurse-whistleblower-murdering-patients.html

The Spectator has also written before about the negligence of elderly patients in France, Italy, Britain. All of that contributed to inflated corona mortality rates

Novichok
28 Apr 2021  #6206

All of that contributed to inflated corona mortality rates

Except that an old guy that died a little too early in 2020 will not die in 2021 again.
The problem for the covid terrorists will be how to explain that the total mortality in 2020, 2021, and 2022 is the same as in the three years before covid. But, by then, everybody will be happy that it's over and nobody will be inclined to ask such questions.

Cargo pants
28 Apr 2021  #6207

Hey Novi did you get sms from Fema that if you will pay or paid funeral costs due to covid they will help with financial assistance with there number?

amiga500
28 Apr 2021  #6208

'I Recorded Them Murdering Patients'

Makes me furious. I remember reading about sweden, patients were denied oxygen and given opiates instead.

Cargo pants
28 Apr 2021  #6209

patients were denied oxygen

Thats whats happening in India now.2 /3 patients in 1 hospital bed.

amiga500
28 Apr 2021  #6210

Yes but there is differnce, they have physcially run out of oxygen, in sweden there was plenty but they made the decision not to provide to aged care homes, and the elderly were not taken to hospital.


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