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Coronavirus in Poland



PolAmKrakow
2 Sep 2021  #7291

@johnny reb
It has nothing to do with being too cool to wear one. It has everything to do with I got the vaccine and had covid, I have no responsibility to anyone who didnt at least get the vaccine. I have a responsibility to take care of myself and if feeling unwell to not go out among people. Thats it. Common sense.

@amiga500
The mask order has never been law. It was an order that also had loopholes, like for people with asthma never having to wear one. That said, I will not wear one indoors in a shopping mall out of my own choice when the indoor mask order says I dont have to wear one in my gym where there is no room to get away and social distance from people, and in arenas, movie theater, restaurant or bars where there is no social distancing and no masks.

The masks are a control measure now with so many vaccinated. They make no sense in Poland at this point.

johnny reb
2 Sep 2021  #7292

I got the vaccine and had covid,

Are you deaf or what ?

Even if you are fully vaccinated , you are still capable of spreading Covid and dying from Covid.

Did ya get it that time ?

Novichok
2 Sep 2021  #7293

No, moron, if you don't spit, cough, or sneeze, YOU DON"T SPREAD anything. What you exhale that stupid mask can't stop.

Novichok
2 Sep 2021  #7294

I don't. Hence, no mask.

Hey, moron, masks were never meant to be used to show respect. They were meant to reduce what we spit or sneeze, idiot.

I don't spit or sneeze.

mafketis
2 Sep 2021  #7295

Day 29 (or 19*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.99 of 39,273 tests... not quite over one percent yet....

hospitalization: no change +3 = 478

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: +1 to 57

deaths: total 7 ( 5 wtih comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 4 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 156,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

PolAmKrakow
2 Sep 2021  #7296

@johnny reb
How about everyone get a jab and respect the ones that already have? They are the minority. It is about the many, not the few. Those without the jab can take their chances, its up to them. I made my choice and I wont be forced to do something because someone else has chosen to not be protected. Let them die. Don't care.

Less than one tenth of one percent chance of dying even from Delta if vaccinated. Very few breakthrough cases. Sounds to me like people just need to get the jab.

mafketis
2 Sep 2021  #7297

Sounds to me like people just need to get the jab.

The thing is, there's some evidence (scrupulously ignored in conventional media) that there's a vaccination sweet spot which is a lot less than 100% .The most heavily vaccinated countries also tend to have very large waves including increased deaths (there's reason to believe that the fully vaccinated with some versions are shedding the virus).

Vaccination should be voluntary and people should make their own decisions based on their risk factors (age and general health). Vaccinating children for a virus that poses almost no threat at all to them is..... not good.

Poland has reached the end of the road for the time being and that's okay. Everything needs to open up with no restrictions or vaccine 'passports'.

The model to follow is Sweden (the only country to follow established pandemic policy) and not the Chinese Communist Party.

Novichok
2 Sep 2021  #7298

If masks work as filters, the mask I am wearing stores the virus my lungs tied to exhale - only to be inhaled right back.

It's like letting a baby wear wet diapers to protect the floor. Brilliant...

Since the beginning of the "pandemic" that kills .15% I have yet to see even one person anywhere cough or sneeze. They just shop or wait and pose no risk to anyone.

The argument that masks don't restrict breathing is beyond stupid. All mechanical filters restrict or they would not be filters.

Strzelec35
2 Sep 2021  #7299

joe rogan gets covid:

nypost.com/2021/09/01/joe-rogan-got-covid-after-urging-listeners-not-to-get-vaccine/

PolAmKrakow
2 Sep 2021  #7300

@Novichok
Athletes have been training with these types of masks and other filters for years to increase lung capacity like lifting weights makes other muscles stronger. A Doctor, real practicing MD has told me that masks do nothing but inhibit the body from producing antibodies for all the common virus that we are in contact with in daily lives leaving us more prone to illness other than COVID.

So, get the jab or not. Your choice. But dont ask me to do something special for someone who doesnt get it.

johnny reb
2 Sep 2021  #7301

No, moron, if you don't spit, cough, or sneeze, YOU DON"T SPREAD anything.

You are dumber then I thought.
Droplets get on your hand, you touch a door handle or standing over produce in a grocery store, droplets hit the cabbage or lettuce and you could spread it moron.

EVERYONE wearing a mask would decrease those chances.

How about everyone get a jab and respect the ones that already have?

Well there are always a few like the maskholes that think they are special so it doesn't apply to them.
You want others to respect your values but you don't want to respect theirs. lol

But dont ask me to do something special for someone

Of course not, it's called "mans inhumanity to man" in the church of Me-ism.
It's all about me hell or high water.
I got it.

PolAmKrakow
2 Sep 2021  #7302

@johnny reb
No. Its all about I did my part and wore a mask until I was fully vaccinated and recovered from COVID. If others wont do their part then F them.

johnny reb
2 Sep 2021  #7303

No. Its all about I did my part

Right, everyone should march to YOUR beat or F-them.
That is being very self centered.
How about you marching to their beat and do your part ?
Horrors !
Nobody gonna tell you what to do, Right ? lol

PolAmKrakow
2 Sep 2021  #7304

I did march to the beat until the drummer changed the song to vaccinated. Now they can keep marching if they want, but I am done and so are tens of millions of others. I came into the world alone and yes, no one will tell me to restrict myself when others dont receive protection.

johnny reb
2 Sep 2021  #7305

Got it.
I hope you do if you die or one of your grandchildren do, because someone refused to respect you and coughed not wearing a mask and infected you.

And before you say it, I will say it AGAIN !

Even if you are fully vaccinated , you are still capable of spreading Covid and dying from Covid.

Good day as I am going fishing out on the lake.

amiga500
2 Sep 2021  #7306

You should probably chain yourself to the boat JR, just in case you fall overboard and drown. Playing every odd you know ? also make sure the hooks are blunt as if you swing the rod one might take out the your eye, in fact wear goggles as well to lower the risk. The outboard motor might explode, spewing burning fuel everywhere so restrict yourself to oars.

Novichok
2 Sep 2021  #7307

So, get the jab or not. Your choice.

I assume "your" is general, not specifically me. I feel exactly the same way as you do.

I got my two "jabs" and a booster so I have a message to the unvaccinated: Go fu*ck yourself and die.

I don't give a crap. I am not going to be your air purifier so you can follow your anti-vax fanaticism.

I cannot imagine anything worse than breathing through a mask that is loaded with viruses - with every breath adding to your private virus hell as you exhale and inhale.

That's how they are supposed to work - as filters that trap crap. After a while, that mask is like your furnace filter after six months. Yummy...

Mask idiocy exposed...From:

theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/school-mask-mandates-downside/619952/

In Spain, masks are used in kids ages 6 and older. The authors of one study there examined the risk of viral spread at all ages. If masks provided a large benefit, then the transmission rate among 5-year-olds would be far higher than the rate among 6-year-olds.

The results don't show that. Instead, they show that transmission rates, which were low among the youngest kids, steadily increased with age-rather than dropping sharply for older children subject to the face-covering requirement.

Duh!

Korvinus
3 Sep 2021  #7308

medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-moderna-tainted-covid-vaccines-japan.html

Moderna says tainted COVID vaccines sent to Japan contained steel

Don't worry though, they say it's perfectly safe to inject yourself with some steel. After all, Covid is far more deadly than the Black Death so the benefits far outweigh the risks.

Does this open them to a lawsuit for damaged MRI's?
Good luck getting a scan if you have the vaxx

mafketis
3 Sep 2021  #7309

Day 30 (or 20*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.95 of 36,549 tests... not quite over one percent yet....

hospitalization: no change +12 = 490

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

day 30: 3.4 %
day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: +2 to 58

deaths: total 5 (4 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 5 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 157,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
3 Sep 2021  #7310

Putting masks on kids should be a felony.
If we can justify that, we can justify punishing them for touching things - a parallel transmission path with no numbers to upset mask morons.

mafketis
4 Sep 2021  #7311

Day 31 (or 21*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.95 of 41,135 tests... not quite over one percent yet....

hospitalization: +8 = 498

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

day 31: 2.1 %
day 30: 3.4 %
day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: +3 to 61

deaths: total 7 (3 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 5 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 157,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Korvinus
4 Sep 2021  #7312

Another sudden "Unexplained death," in a young person...

Toby Young's half sister, 25, dies suddenly after complaining of a headache and falling ill at home during heatwave in London

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9955493/Lords-daughter-25-died-suddenly-falling-ill-home-headache-heatwave.html

"The vaccine is not the cause of a sudden death in a 25 year old because she took it 4 months ago." ... This is why brainlets who "trust the science," think the vaxx has been "tested and is safe." 1 year never mind 4 months is not enough to determine SHORT TERM side effects in a clinical trial on a subject. Her death is a SHORT TERM side effect. Jesus weeps for the unused brains he gave to morons who think that if they don't drop dead in a day the "vaccines," are safe. This is the reason that clinical trials USED to have to last for years.

johnny reb
4 Sep 2021  #7313

Unfortunately we didn't/ don't have the luxury to wait years for clinical trials.
I see they have slowed their push down on the boosters however after Trump said that he would not be getting one because he felt he was healthy enough to not need one.

Top federal health officials have told the White House to scale back a plan to offer coronavirus booster shots to the general public later this month, saying that regulators need more time to collect and review all the necessary data.

That data might be coming from the guinea pigs that have already got their booster.
With flu season starting next month though, we should be encouraging the maskholes to start wearing their masks again when in public.
No denying masks are very effective in the spread of the flu viruses.

Novichok
4 Sep 2021  #7314

Even the mask terrorists admit that masks filter 10%. Try to get approval for a drug that is 10% effective. Hahahahaha...
This means that 90% goes right through. But that is not the worst of it. The mask terrorists never discuss what happens to the crap that accumulates in the mask and how it affects the wearer, only that masks slow down the spread plus a meaningless bs adjective like "very". Well, the crap that accumulates is what the wearer inhales back in addition to what is coming from the air around him that the mask didn't catch - which is 90%. "Accumulates" means that with every breath he takes, more and more crap is coming from his own source of virus - his mask. That's the mask "science" in one paragraph.

johnny reb
4 Sep 2021  #7315

NEWS FLASH !
Like your underwear Rich, you are supposed to change your mask every day and your underwear sometimes twice a day if you sneeze a lot. HOOT !

Korvinus
4 Sep 2021  #7316

Unfortunately we didn't/ don't have the luxury to wait years for clinical trials.

Survival rate almost always been at 99% and above.

Terrible disease, just terrible. All the restrictions, lockdowns, mandates, the loss of jobs and businesses, and whatnot... absolutely necessary.

johnny reb
5 Sep 2021  #7317

Survival rate almost always been at 99% and above.

This is true.
Children 1 to 12 years old have a .001 chance of dying from Covid.
Their chances of dying from yearly influenza or getting run over by a car is much greater.
People under 50 years old have a 99% survival rate.
It's people over sixty with underlying causes like Coleslaw suffering with obesity that are dying from Covid.

You assumed that this forum is idiot-free and that everybody will be able to sense your sarcasm.

Oh the irony.......Hoot !

johnny reb
5 Sep 2021  #7318

All the restrictions, lockdowns, mandates, the loss of jobs and businesses, and whatnot... absolutely necessary.

They were at the time BEFORE we knew what was going on.
Now that we know the game has changed.

PolAmKrakow
5 Sep 2021  #7319

@Korvinus
Clearly you have no clue about how many more families were destroyed by lockdowns and loosing their livelihoods.

mafketis
5 Sep 2021  #7320

Day 32 (or 22*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 1.07 of 30,119 tests... first time over one percent in a long time (but not many tests which usually drives the percentage up)

hospitalization: +2 = 500

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

day 32: 0.60 %
day 31: 2.1 %
day 30: 3.4 %
day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: -1 to 60

deaths: total 0

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 6 (+ 1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 157,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own


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