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Coronavirus in Poland



mafketis
6 Sep 2021  #7321

Day 33 (or 23*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.86 of 21,322 tests... percentage of positives back down below one percent

hospitalization: +29 = 529

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

seven day moving average : 5.41 %

day 33: 15.8 %
day 32: 0.60 %
day 31: 2.1 %
day 30: 3.4 %
day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: +4 to 64

deaths: total 0 (second day in a row)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 5 (- 1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 157,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
6 Sep 2021  #7322

Yesterday, on the way out of Costco, I saw a couple with two kids, 3 and 5. The store does not require masks so the parents weren't wearing them. The kids did, though. And so did everybody else. It felt like I am back to Planet Stupid.

Hey, maf, did you notice that the mortality rate curves are the same shape everywhere? Steep up and - within weeks - a steep slope down regardless of if it is Florida, Poland, or Colombia.

This would suggest that we are dealing with things we can't control - like a living creature from a scary movie that mutates at its own pace while the lockdown and masks fascists pretend that they are actually doing "something" or at least "raising awareness".

Korvinus
6 Sep 2021  #7323

You know what's really scary? That we'll be debating this nonsense in this thread in 2023, after the ninth wave and the tenth booster shot drive from our authorities.

Novichok
6 Sep 2021  #7324

Be happy that the mask fascists didn't connect sunlight and the spread of covid. You would have to stay in a windowless room and never be allowed out.

Come to think of it...Skin cancer kills. No more going to the beach, playing tennis, or just standing out there...for more than 10 minutes a day.

mafketis
7 Sep 2021  #7325

Day 34 (or 24*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.96 of 44,329 tests... percentage of positives back down below one percent

hospitalization: +41 = 570

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

seven day moving average : 5.04 %

day 34: 10.1 %
day 33: 15.8 %
day 32: 0.60 %
day 31: 2.1 %
day 30: 3.4 %
day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: -1 to 63

deaths: total 13 (12 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 6 (+ 1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 157,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
7 Sep 2021  #7326

From: swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Lethality: According to the latest immunological studies, the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) of covid-19 in the general population is about 0.1% to 0.5% in most countries, which is most closely comparable to the medium influenza pandemics of 1936, 1957 and 1968.

Age profile: The median age of covid deaths is over 80 years in most Western countries (78 in the US) and about 5% of the deceased had no serious preconditions. The age and risk profile of covid mortality is therefore comparable to normal mortality, but increases it proportionally.

Nursing homes: In many Western countries, about 50% of all covid deaths have occurred in nursing homes, which require targeted and humane protection. In some cases, care home residents died not from the coronavirus, but from weeks of stress and isolation.

Instead of these facts, the covid fascists prefer "highly contagious", "masks work", and other one-liners the gullible swallow as "science" and without asking for evidence as that would make them into "deniers" and not "mainstream" enough. Being "mainstream" is safe, cuddly, and always feels good.

Cargo pants
7 Sep 2021  #7327

And USA still requires a COVID test taken 3 days before arrival and they say they dont mention 72 hrs for travelers convenience so it can be stretched to 4 days unlike the EU wants tests taken 48 hrs before arrival.Even though tests are free in The USA every 2 weeks,in Poland buggers charge 80 to 100 pln.

johnny reb
7 Sep 2021  #7328

Australia is taking a huge hit right now over their mandatory lock down.

amiga500
7 Sep 2021  #7329

We have the minerals and jewels to pay for business and income support till we hit 80 percent vaxxed

Novichok
7 Sep 2021  #7330

I am still waiting for the covid fascists to say this: When we reach xx percent vaxxed, no more lockdowns, no more masks, no more any other covid terror crap.

mafketis
7 Sep 2021  #7331

we reach xx percent vaxxed, no more

The policies aren't about health, they're about austerity (which has nothing to do with government debt, austerity is always, _always_ used to transfer wealth (private and public) to private individuals.

The English speaking countries that are most invested in the neoliberal paradigm are the most invested in repressive lockdown policies that end up shrinking healthcare, education and public safety.

Canada is about to fire 20% of its healthcare workers... think there's any chance they'll ever be hired back? Austerity in action.

Novichok
7 Sep 2021  #7332

Canada is about to fire 20% of its healthcare workers...

You that world's best health care every African strongman avoids like a plague in favor of the US is being dismantled? I am shocked...

I wouldn't mind some pruning in here starting with the 30,000,000 illegals.

I apologize for that lame "You that world's best health care..."
How about - So you are saying that "the world's best health care system"...

mafketis
8 Sep 2021  #7333

Day 35 (or 25*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 1.34 of 39,903 tests... percentage of positives back down below one percent

hospitalization: +18 = 588

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

seven day moving average : 5.14 % (up 0.10)

day 35: 3.3 %
day 34: 10.1 %
day 33: 15.8 %
day 32: 0.60 %
day 31: 2.1 %
day 30: 3.4 %
day 29: 0.70 %
day 28: 2.6 %
day 27: 12.7 %

intensive care: +3 to 66

deaths: total 11 (8 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 6 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 158,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
8 Sep 2021  #7334

This one goes under a new variant of insanity... From msn.com:

The U.S. saw its peak of mu variant cases in mid-July but case numbers involving that variant have been declining since, signaling either a weakening of the strain or indicating a worrisome future.

Yes, I got it. Mu variant is declining so the future is "worrisome". When it's all gone, we will be trembling because, from this point on, things can only get worse.

johnny reb
8 Sep 2021  #7335

from this point on, things can only get worse.

Be careful what you pray for, Rich.
What is the Nipah virus and why is it more deadly than COVID ?

Novichok
9 Sep 2021  #7336

The daily drumbeat of how 25% of all new "cases" here are kids and how many of them are in hospitals fighting for their lives does not include what Dr. Novichok said recently which was that this sh*it happens when you place kids in a bubble and thus prevent their God-given natural immunity from working according to his grand design. When you remove that bubble they get sick real fast.

If the covid fascists didn't force that stupid social distancing, remote learning, plexiglass shields, and the 10% effective masks on them, they would gradually adjust to the virus and the mutants. But this would leave the covid fascists with nothing to do and unable to brag later about how they did "something".

Equivalent to "follow the money", the Novichok rule that applies here is simple: If it's evil, look for government parasites.

See: the NY death chambers aka nursing homes.

mafketis
9 Sep 2021  #7337

Day 36 (or 26*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 1.35 % of 37,704 tests... percentage of positives back down below one percent

hospitalization: +6 = 594

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions (new metric):

seven day moving average : 5.29 % (up 0.15)

day 36 : 1.7 %
day 35: 3.3 %
day 34: 10.1 %
day 33: 15.8 %
day 32: 0.60 %
day 31: 2.1 %
day 30: 3.4 %

intensive care: +11 to 77

deaths: total 6 (all with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 7 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 158,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Lenka
9 Sep 2021  #7338

I don't like how the percentage of positive cases keeps creeping up

Cargo pants
9 Sep 2021  #7339

According to Polish govt ProteGo Safe app on my cell 19448585 people have had first doseand fully vaccinated population is 17156317 as per yesterday,almost all Poland will be vaccinated soon at least with one dose(provided govt is providing real figures).Positive cases in that case mean nothing,there were 6 deaths yesterday all from coexistent diseases and 0 from Covid alone..I think if the figures are correct then nothing to worry about.

Roibeard79
9 Sep 2021  #7340

@Lenka

We will always have cases, that will be indefinite and eventually they need to stop advertising them daily. It's the impact it causes to individuals etc that is the concern. If we believe in the science those who choose the vaccine route (I did) should be better prepared that those who didn't. But I guess time will tell on all fronts!

Novichok
9 Sep 2021  #7341

Those who could be vaccinated and refused should not be treated in hospitals - if at all. The same with drug addicts who overdosed.

Roibeard79
9 Sep 2021  #7342

I don't agree with this. It's freedom of choice. Where does it stop if that is imposed. If you drive your car and have an accident, should the ambulance wait to see if you were speeding to attend to you or they should attend to you? Same thing really, different example

mafketis
9 Sep 2021  #7343

The messaging about the "vaccines" was awful from the start (you have to take it! but it won't change anything for the foreseeable future! you can still get or transmit covid! but still, you have to take it!)

Such a mess of conflicting messages (from the same people) is bound to make people resist taking it and I think that was on purpose. They want a group of scapegoats they can blame their own failures on...

Meanwhile, in Israel a government official said that those who are double vaccinated are more at risk than those who didn't get the shots...

Roibeard79
9 Sep 2021  #7344

Agreed, a total shambles and how the world could not work as one is worrying for other issues moving forward. In Australia apparently they now limit you to 6 beers at home, no more. Lol total madness.

Novichok
9 Sep 2021  #7345

I don't agree with this. It's freedom of choice.

Your freedom of getting vaccinated or not goes with my freedom not to pay for a month in the ICU. Somehow that "freedom of choice" is always one-sided - your freedom to choose the behaviour but not the consequences.

should the ambulance wait to see if you were speeding to attend to you or they should attend to you?

Try this and see how it works. Let your DL lapse, get .16 drunk, go 100, and kill somebody. Then call your insurance agent and tell us what he said. Hypothetically, of course.

Lenka
9 Sep 2021  #7346

We will always have cases, that will be indefinite and eventually they need to stop advertising

Oh I know. That is why I focus more on the percentage of cases

Novichok
9 Sep 2021  #7347

We had lockdowns. 99.9% wear masks. We don't spit, sneeze, or cough. We avoid grandmas and grandpas. Many got vaccinated.
So why are we seeing "the waves"?
To answer this question, a CDC scientist looked at a virus under a million-to-one microscope and saw the middle finger.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Sep 2021  #7348

I still didn't get vaccinated.... just decided to wait for AZD7442!

Astrazeneca just concluded the first clinial tests for a Covid19 prophylaxis drug. It is expected to protect for about one year agains the virus.
If all works out like it seems to be it could get the admission in spring 2022....

berliner-zeitung.de/wirtschaft-verantwortung/ein-medikament-zur-covid-prophylaxe-li.181864

Not to forget VLA2001...coming hopefully soon, that all sounds alot better than the current stuff in the injections!

valneva.com/research-development/covid-19-vla2001/

Novichok
9 Sep 2021  #7349

I still didn't get vaccinated...

I respect those who decide not to get vaccinated. I hate those who tell me that because some decided not to get vaccinated, I am required to wear a mask to protect THEM!

Bratwurst Boy
9 Sep 2021  #7350

.....I don't hate anybody (besides maybe the chinese wixxer who put that onto the world)....

It's just...."My body - my choice"....I like that concept!


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