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Coronavirus in Poland



mafketis
6 Nov 2021  #8401

Day 93 (or 83 or 33)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 19.5 % of 77,986 tests...

hospitalization: + 576 = 9473

intensive care: + 56 = 798

deaths: 186 (146 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths +8 = 96

one year ago comparison

7 day aveage new cases:
2020: 21,068
2021: 9745

7 day average deaths:
2020: 242
2021: 96

one year + one week ago comparison (since someone had said this wave is about a week behind last year's)

7 day aveage new cases:
2020: 14,932
2021: 9745

7 day average deaths:
2020: 162
2021: 96

Last year's fall wave peaked nov 10 (cases) and nov 25 (deaths)....

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 269,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

PolAmKrakow
6 Nov 2021  #8402

@mafketis
Great refresher on last years numbers

Tacitus
6 Nov 2021  #8403

@mafketis

how ever they happen to calculate that.

I think I have an answer to that. Scientists still disagree on how long it takes to fully recover from Covid on average, which also includes no longer being a possible spreader of the disease. Some countries now list people as infected for 3-4 weeks after the diagnosis, perhaps Poland does the same?

mafketis
6 Nov 2021  #8404

Some countries now list people as infected for 3-4 weeks

It's more a case of someone messing up back in June/July when case numbers were rapidly falling and not removing people from the infected lists at all. Even allowing for the 3-4 (or more) weeks the numbers made no sense (calculated by the methods the government was supposed to be using). But the current Polish government is not... inclined.... to admit mistakes and so they just remained really high.

Never attribute method to something that PiS does that can be explained by simple incompetence.

gumishu
6 Nov 2021  #8405

some bogus number over 269,000

maybe it's just long covid cases added into the equation - like people being on sick leave because of covid (for statistical and whatever other reasons)

Korvinus
6 Nov 2021  #8406

Florian Dagoury: World Record Holder In Static Breath-Hold Freediving Diagnosed With Myopericarditis After Pfizer Vaccine, Possible End Of Career

thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

PolAmKrakow
7 Nov 2021  #8407

@Korvinus
another 1 in a few million story. Nothing to see.

mafketis
7 Nov 2021  #8408

Day 94 (or 84 or 34)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 22.8 % of 54,721 tests...

hospitalization: + 315 = 9788

intensive care: + 59 = 857

deaths: 24 (15 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths +9 = 107

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 282,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

johnny reb
7 Nov 2021  #8409

Poland has so far shifted over 1,580 of its total 35,000 schools and kindergartens into hybrid mode due to COVID threat, including 73 facilities now operating entirely in remote mode, according to Education Ministry data.

Korvinus
7 Nov 2021  #8410

Bayer executive publicly admits that mRNA "vaccines" are gene therapies:

twitter.com/iradialberto/status/1456692467231649796

PolAmKrakow
7 Nov 2021  #8411

iradialberto/status

A video from 3 years ago does not shed light on anything COVID. Thanks for the twisting of facts though. Please try again.

jon357
7 Nov 2021  #8412

gene therapies:

So what?

Are you still pretending they have 'nanotubes' and 'unknown life forms'?

Korvinus
7 Nov 2021  #8413

So what?

Yes, the "vaccines" are poison.

PolAmKrakow
7 Nov 2021  #8414

@Korvinus
A fantastic poison saving millions of lives around the world. Please return to the tinfoil hat factory.

jon357
7 Nov 2021  #8415

Yes, the "vaccines" are poison.

So is water if you drink enough.

And in the news, another 'covid-denier' and 'anti-vaxxer' dies of Covid. He was taking the cats' worming tablet Ivermectin, which some loonies pretend is a miracle cure. It didn't cure this guy...

"Parhar said he'd also.used.Ivermectin, a parasitic drug, to treat his sickness.... Public Safety Minister Mike Farnworth once.referred to the popular.online personality as "a complete idiot.""

nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-convid-flat-earth-20211105-mhllqbvbmzfprer3q7eccc7nce-story.html

mafketis
7 Nov 2021  #8416

He was taking the cats' worming tablet Ivermectin

Africans are cats to you? It's been used there for decades on millions of people.....

And then there's this... a bunch of vaccinated athletes developing sudden heart issues....

report24-news.translate.goog/ab-13-jahren-lange-liste-ploetzlich-verstorbener-oder-schwerkranker-sportler/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

jon357
7 Nov 2021  #8417

It's been used there for decades on millions of people.....

And on millions more cats and dogs. It's a worming tablet. Nothing to do with Covid.

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Korvinus
7 Nov 2021  #8418

Ivermectin

Why so many retards don't realize that mammals aren't really that different and that we can share various substances?

Cats drink water, why do you drink water then? Are you a cats?

jon357
7 Nov 2021  #8419

we can share various substances?

Cats do like weed, however there's no point taking Ivermectin for a virus like Covid. It is an antihelminthic.

Korvinus
7 Nov 2021  #8420

taking Ivermectin

But if they want to fight it that badly, it's something I feel I should have in my cabinet.

jon357
7 Nov 2021  #8421

Who are 'they' and why do you think someone is 'fighting' it?

it's something I feel I should have in my cabinet.

I have some in the kitchen drawer for worming a czworonóg (its main use). Every vet sells it, every chemist stocks it too. Nobody is suppressing it and the pharmaceutical company who make it would doubtless be glad of your money. It doesn't have any connection to Covid though.

Korvinus
7 Nov 2021  #8422

The television told him it's a animal medicine, so he'll keep repeating the lie until given new programming.

jon357
7 Nov 2021  #8423

The television told

No, I've never heard it mentioned on television (and don't watch TV). I've got some from the vet as an animal worming tablet (its main use) and have come across it in Africa (where parasitic infections are common) and while working as a special ed teacher (ditto).

It's not used for Covid though. If it were anything as useful as deranged youtubers, covid-deniers, anti-vaxxer and sundty conspiraloon cranks suggested, we'd be seeing a lot more of it.

mafketis
7 Nov 2021  #8424

The vaccine was probably helpful for older and more vulnerable people but the drive to vaccinate the young and healthy (at very low risk) is probably... not a good idea.

report24-news.translate.goog/ab-13-jahren-lange-liste-ploetzlich-verstorbener-oder-schwerkranker-sportler/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

No one healthy under 20 (or maybe 30) should be vaccinated.

Tacitus
8 Nov 2021  #8425

One tragic case hardly justifies such a decision, especially when compared to thousands of children and young adult who have had severe cases of Covid with possible long-term consequences.

mafketis
8 Nov 2021  #8426

One tragic case

or 75.... did young healthy athletes used to drop like flies?

thousands of children and young adult who have had severe cases of Covid with possible long-term consequences

references? I've yet to see a credible source that indicates large numbers of children (who didn't have severe conditions already) catching covid.

PolAmKrakow
8 Nov 2021  #8427

@mafketis
you may want to look into how many schools had to close because of outbreaks. Poland is having lots close already for the second year in a row. As for athletes, almost every professional league in every sport has mandated vaccination. Next to zero complications.

mafketis
8 Nov 2021  #8428

every sport has mandated vaccination. Next to zero complications

Did you look at that link?

"Outbreaks" in school are either teachers of children who show no symptoms....

gumishu
8 Nov 2021  #8429

do you think children with negligible symptoms can't be vectors? I haven't read on the subject

Tacitus
8 Nov 2021  #8430

@mafketis

references? I.

ukri.org/news/first-findings-of-worlds-largest-study-on-long-covid-in-children/

Now consider that without vaccination, most children will end up getting Covid and you have hundreds of thousands or even millions who will suffer long-term effects. Loss of taste and smell is already bad when it afflicts adults, but with children it is tragic. My aunt is a teacher who in her school had an outbreak of Covid in her class a few months ago. She told me that 3 children in her class still have not regained their sense of smell and taste.


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