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Coronavirus in Poland



mafketis
8 Nov 2021  #8431

do you think children with negligible symptoms can't be vectors?

It's very hard for healthy children to get it (esp under 10) and almost no children show serious symptoms.

I know one couple where the parents had it (his case was mild, hers was much worse though she wasn't hospitalized). They made no effort to isolate themselves from 5 year old child - who tested negative afterward.

This is actually great news! Flu is far more dangerous to children than is covid. I'd much rather have an endemic disease that's dangerous to those over 80 than those under 15....

The drive to vaccinate children is just austerity - transferring health funds that could/should be spent elsewhere straight to big pharma.

first-findings-of-worlds-largest-study-on-long-covid-in-children/

"The researchers found that there was no difference in mental health and wellbeing scores between children who tested positive compared to those who tested negative. "

"32,872 (one in seven) would have had three or more physical symptoms at 15 weeks"

that translates to 0.13 percent

While 16,436 would have had five or more physical symptoms 15 weeks after the test

that translates to 0.07 percent

mafketis
8 Nov 2021  #8432

there might not be reports for a while because when I tried to post today's numbers
19.6 & positive
3 deaths, all with comorbidities
I got a message that the page was moved and the site didn't save the working message... I might try again in a few days....

gumishu
8 Nov 2021  #8433

The drive to vaccinate children is just austerity

I doubt the Polish government will press vaccination of children below 12 - but I may be proven wrong in the future

mafketis
8 Nov 2021  #8434

doubt the Polish government will press vaccination of children below 12

I don't see most Polish parents going along with that.... vaccination has yet to bring the great benefits that were promised... anywhere, same old restrictions and hysterical alarmism.

I think that a fair amount of Polish government policy has not been to press things too, too much because they know a lot of rules simply won't be followed and they don't want the spectacle of them impotently ordering the public around as the public ignores them.

For the record, Polish unwillingness to blindly follow rules is, in the case of covid, a good thing. Obedient populations haven't been rewarded so screw that.

gumishu
8 Nov 2021  #8435

Polish unwillingness to blindly follow rules is, in the case of covid, a good thing

I thouroughly disagree with you on the subject

Novichok
8 Nov 2021  #8436

Obedient populations haven't been rewarded so screw that.

We know what happened to Europe in 1939 and on because of obedience. I will take murderers and rapists before the obedient mindless idiots aka good mask-wearing citizens if only because there are a lot fewer of them and they can't do as much damage.

Tacitus
8 Nov 2021  #8437

Europe in 1939

That analogy only works with the people refusing to wear masks and getting the jab though. They are ones following lies and irrational argumemts, getting whipped up into a frenzy and increasingly ending radicalized, with some resorting to violence and murder.

Novichok
8 Nov 2021  #8438

That analogy only works with the people refusing to wear masks and getting the jab though.

FRANKFURT, Nov 8 (Reuters) - Germany's coronavirus infection rate has risen to its highest level since the start of the pandemic, public health figures showed on Monday, and doctors warned they will need to postpone scheduled operations in coming weeks to cope.

The seven-day incidence rate - the number of people per 100,000 to be infected over the last week - rose to 201.1, higher than a previous record of 197.6 in December last year, the figures from the Robert Koch Institute showed on Monday.


I freely admit that this article brought a smile. All that Western medicine, lockdowns, masks, Gestapo .... and now this. The country I wish even worse is Australia.

BTW, this is how it must feel drinking from Mississippi to stop a flood in spring.

jon357
8 Nov 2021  #8439

with some resorting to violence

This has happened already in a few places. They won't win.

Even in Poland some doilums attacked a vaccination centre. I wonder who is behind all that.

johnny reb
8 Nov 2021  #8440

I wonder who is behind all that.

People are tired of being lied to and are wising up, that's who.

without vaccination, most children will end up getting Covid and you have hundreds of thousands or even millions who will suffer long-term effects.

Who in the hell told you that lie ?
When .001% of children die from Covid how will vaccinating them improve on that number ?
Please do tell.
How does anyone know what the long term effects of Covid will be on children but better yet, "How do we know what the long term effects will be from these worthless experimental 'CONTROL Vaccines' on children that don't need them will be" ?

And why is it that 78% of the people who have died in the U.K. from Covid in the last month have been doubly vaccinated with both vaccines ?

Please do tell.
You know what I say to you vaxxer gods........Baaaaa, Baaaaaa

Novichok
8 Nov 2021  #8441

Who in the hell told you that lie ?

Another obedient leftist moron...

jon357
8 Nov 2021  #8442

That analogy only works with the people refusing to wear masks and getting the jab though.

At least people are wearing mask here.

Novichok
8 Nov 2021  #8443

And how did THAT help? Yeah, I know, without masks it would A LOT worse...Except nobody knows by how much.
So we go back to "if even one life..." crap.

johnny reb
8 Nov 2021  #8444

I hate to have my post buried without the vaxxine gods answering my questions in post #8441 above.
I posted one and a half years ago my predictions to where this Covid b.s. CONTROL was going and why.
INDEPENDENCE CRIMINALIZED to see how much they can control us before we say ENOUGH !
Want to read that post again so I can say, "I told you Liberal Sheep So."

Tacitus
8 Nov 2021  #8445

and now this.

Just goes to show what happens when you ease restrictions without a high enough vaccination rate.

This has happened already in a few places.

We recently had a case where a man was asked at a gas station to wear a mask to which he obliged. He then went home, got a gun and murdered the clerk at the store, who was a young man working to finance his college education.

Novichok
8 Nov 2021  #8446

without a high enough vaccination rate.

What's "high enough"? The answer requires a number - like 70%, for example - not "high enough". "High enough" is the beginning of a bs weasel story...

johnny reb
8 Nov 2021  #8447

Children ages 5 to 11 are now eligible for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and cities like New York City and Chicago are incentivizing kids to get vaccinated.

Children in New York City can either get $100 if they receive their first dose of the vaccine within the city or tickets to city attractions.

How shameful !
San Francisco will soon require children as young as 5 to show proof of Covid-19 vaccination to enter certain indoor public spaces like restaurants, entertainment venues and sporting events, public health officials said this week.

Baaaaaa...........Baaaaaaa
And the real cooker here in Michigan is Oakland County College requiring all on campus students ware a tracker bug that monitors their temperature !
At Michigan State University 12,000 students have signed a petition that says they will not be participating in the mandates the uni put in place.
People have finally had enough of this government OVER REACH !

PolAmKrakow
9 Nov 2021  #8448

@johnny reb
Completely get your points, and completely understand and support your views. However, people who oppose those "rules" at any business or institution always have the choice of leaving and taking their business and money elsewhere. That my friend is the only way business are made to understand. MSU and other universities are business operations like any other, we all know education is a financial scam of the greatest kind, so simply take your money to a different scammer. Wasting time demonstrating or signing petitions, is just that, a waste of time. Just think of all the money that can be made by opening places that are only for those unvaccinated?! Plenty of places where there are no mandates or orders to be vaccinated in the USA.

amiga500
9 Nov 2021  #8449

Singapore has the right idea, unvaxxed patients will have to pay for their covid hospital stay out of their own pocket. better than over reaching vaccine mandates.

cms neuf
9 Nov 2021  #8450

How is that good ? You pay ZUS your whole life and then the moment you get ill they start to attach terms and conditions about who goes to hospital ?

Hospital is full of people who drive too fast, ate bad diets, went skiing, worked too hard or slept with the wrong guy. Should they pay for their treatment too ?

amiga500
9 Nov 2021  #8451

You make good points. However the worry is that the pandemic of the unvaxxed will stop people with other conditons accessing the ICU

cms neuf
9 Nov 2021  #8452

Just like someone who has got drunk and ploughed his car into a tree then ? They also take an ICU bed

This idea is one of the worst pieces of coronanonsense - coming of course from a dictatorship that has lomg over reached into its citizens freedoms.

amiga500
9 Nov 2021  #8453

Just like someone who has got drunk and ploughed his car

Yes I am for someone who does that paying for his own medical care as well. drink driving is against the law and should be exempt from medical insurance. It already is SOP for travel health insurance.

cms neuf
9 Nov 2021  #8454

No idea what you are on about with SOP - this is a Polish forum. So maybe a better example would be the many idiots who swim in Polish lakes while drunk in the summer,

Swimming is legal, drinking is legal. Swimming drunk is way more risky for a 20 year old guy than not taking the vaccine. - should we let them die ?

mafketis
9 Nov 2021  #8455

unvaxxed patients will have to pay for their covid hospital stay out of their own pocket

In other words..... austerity! Funnel that money to big pharma

What's weird is how the left/liberal/progressive movements have been totally coopted by neoliberalism. In the US it's the liberals who call for rationing healthcare (inconceivable just a few years ago).

Covid policies are not about a pandemic but about a new economic model (neoliberalism on steroids backed up by a bio-security apparatus).

Healthcare services that have been sidelined aren't coming back. Schools are going to steadily increase remote learning (driving women out of the workplace)....

mafketis
9 Nov 2021  #8456

today's numbers

17.9 percent of 76,080 tests

220 deaths (162 with comorbidities)

hospitalized 11,010

ICU 914

johnny reb
9 Nov 2021  #8457

Japan just had a day with ZERO deaths contributed to Covid.
The Philippines are locked down in a stringent lock down for the past year and a half and are down to under 5,000 cases a day.

Is Covid just a warm up (Germ Game) for what is coming next ?
Bill Gates, who is the fourth richest man in the world, said "tens of billions" will need to be spent in research and development to prepare for the next pandemic.

The founder of Microsoft has warned of bioterrorist attacks and has urged world leaders to use "germ games" to prepare for them.
Bill Gates said governments must get ready for future pandemics and smallpox terror attacks by investing billions in research and development.

mafketis
9 Nov 2021  #8458

"tens of billions" will need to be spent in research and development

More austerity.

Translation from Gates-ian to English: Hey governments, stop spending money on law enforcement and healthcare and education. Send the money my way!!!! I want all the moneys!!!!! Gimme! Gimme! Gimmmeeeee!!!!!!

Novichok
9 Nov 2021  #8459

Translation from Gates-ian to English:

This globalist pos, like all other globalists, never mentions who would want to spread the next epidemic. If he did, he would have to explain the idiocy of sending boatloads of money to China.

johnny reb
9 Nov 2021  #8460

According to a recent survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau, 26,870,000 Americans -- or 10.8% of the 18 and older population -- say they will either probably or definitely not get the vaccination.

People are waking up to the lies being fed to us.
This thread is priceless as we recorded all the lies here.
Remember the one about if you get vaccinated your chances of not dying from Covid is 97%.
Then we find out that over 75% of the people who have died last month from Covid have had both their vaccinations.
You heard it first here.


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