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Coronavirus in Poland



PolAmKrakow
30 Nov 2021  #8941

@Bratwurst Boy
Good post. I agree. Let this run its course and lets be done with it.

mafketis
30 Nov 2021  #8942

today's numbers

20.6 % percent of 92,732 tests (significant decrease.....)

hospitalized: 21,172

ICU: 1825

daily deaths: 526 (376 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 317

johnny reb
30 Nov 2021  #8943

Then all would be immunized naturally...and that pandemia panic would be over...

They haven't milked this long enough yet.
There is still a lot of money to be made yet by the vaxxer gods.
I wonder if the truth will ever come out of who was behind all of this.

Let this run its course and lets be done with it.

That was the Amish philosophy right from the git go.
Trust in God and not some scientist getting their back pocket greased to say what they have been told to say.

Novichok
30 Nov 2021  #8944

We need a variant to be able to spell "obedient bootlicker". For now, "moronic" is good.

Kyle's first three shots were actually effective.

...and those who got them will never be spreaders.

Novichok
30 Nov 2021  #8945

When bullsh*it is called "science", strange things happen. Like this one...From studyfinds.org/6-foot-rule-doesnt-protect-covid/

6-foot social distancing rule doesn't protect from COVID-19 whether indoors or outdoors

A new study finds the answer to that appears to be a resounding no. Scientists from the University of Cambridge say the social distancing rule of six feet does not protect against catching COVID-19, even outdoors.

Tomorrow, they will issue a report about the effectiveness of another bush*it aka "masks" - those strange objects that look like one-breast bras with holes 50 times bigger than what these holes are claimed to be able to stop - on the way in or out.

jon357
30 Nov 2021  #8946

daily deaths: 526 (376 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 317

So rising again.

johnny reb
30 Nov 2021  #8947

What if there is no Covid conspiracy and our governments really are that stupid ?

jon357
30 Nov 2021  #8948

For once, you've go it right.

I'd not say stupid though. Just anxious to get it right not wrong.

At least most governments (UK and Poland anyway) have acted quickly but not too heavily with this one.

Novichok
30 Nov 2021  #8949

What if there is no Covid conspiracy and our governments really are that stupid ?

That ... and scared of "doing nothing while people die!!!!" Remember this one from the leftists in 2020 because Trump was president? That's why it's such a relief to have a Democrat in the White House.

Nobody is dying and no ice cream trucks with dead bodies anywhere in sight. Good Biden. Love you, man.

Korvinus
30 Nov 2021  #8950

Under the Austrian regulation, the fine is 3000€. And if they want, they can fine you every day. When you don't pay, it will be directly collected from your account. If there is no money on your account, they'll send the enforcer(?) to collect it, so they'll confiscate your car, or any other valuables you might own. Only then, if they don't find anything or if you have run out of money and things to confiscate for your 3000€/day fine, will you go to jail.

And you can file a legal objection to every single fine, which will clog up the courts for years.

There's a lot of stuff you normally can't do that are already being done. Of course they can confiscate your bank account if they want to. They don't have to wait if your objection goes through, if they don't want to. If a court later decides that it was illegal, so what? The people who decide will not have to pay the legal fees. You will have to pay your own legal fees, and contribute to the state's legal fees through taxation.

fight

Spike31
30 Nov 2021  #8951

telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/30/new-face-mask-rules-coverings-mandatory-exemptions-changes/

The pressure put on Boris must be strong since we now have a new season of a comedy/tragedy known as "covid"

Obviously, like with everything in this "pandemic", there are comical accents: wearing a slave muzzle (also known as a 'mask') is mandatory on public transport and in the shop but not in pubs and restaurants.

And this one is interesting:

"the following groups are exempt from wearing a mask (...) where the putting on, wearing or removing a face covering will cause severe distress"

That would be me, since making a masked idiot of myself would cause me severe distress and would insult my intelligence.

Obviously, I'm going to wear it, however, I've encountered opinions from some people that they're happy that the government will force citizens to obey. This kind of people with their slave mentality would be a backbone of a German Nazi party in 30s.

People who will willfully give away their freedom for fear of a new type of flu don't deserve that freedom in the first place.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Nov 2021  #8952

Under the Austrian regulation, the fine is 3000€.

It's even worse....the raw draft plans till up to 7200,- Euros fine...every 6 months!

euractiv.de/section/europakompakt/news/oesterreich-erwaegt-7-200-euro-bussgeld-fuer-ungeimpfte/

In Germany there is now also talk about a mandatory vaccinations....starting in February......and then every six months....halleluja! :(

theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/30/austria-pushes-on-with-plan-for-mandatory-covid-vaccines

I dislike the new gov already....

mafketis
30 Nov 2021  #8953

So rising again.

Count on you to pull the worst news... the best news is what looks like a drop in the percentage of positive tests) the first key variable to fall....

Just anxious to get it right not wrong.

By steamrolling terrible policies?

One big problem by now is that some big pharma concerns have mostly re-centered their operations on covid and so they have lots of incentives to keep the panic going (or trying to).

jon357
30 Nov 2021  #8954

terrible policies

A PCR test before day 2 after arrival in a country is hardly 'terrible'. Nor is wearing masks in crowded places...

johnny reb
30 Nov 2021  #8955

Here is Criminal Fauci saying that he represents science ! LMAO !
You guys in Poland will get a real hoot out of Fauci blatantly lying.
And then Fauci laughs when told that he should be prosecuted for lying to Congress.
Listen to Rand Paul rip him apart.

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fauci-under-fire-i-represent-science/ar-AARjhJ1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

And we are supposed to believe what Fauci says ????? NOT !
Fauci is a political lapdog puppet getting rich just like the rest of them.

Korvinus
30 Nov 2021  #8956

bitchute.com/video/O4U6a7R9EDYM/

Bill Gates: "This was an interesting trust... case... test of people's trust in their politicians or their health system. We didn't do as well as I would have expected."

Translation: "People are not quite as dumbed down as we thought."

jon357
30 Nov 2021  #8957

a tiny minority

Part of the majority, if anything.

Most countries either require a vaccine pass or a PCR test or both. That won't go away any time soon. Nor will masks in crowded places; shops and public transport require them here in Poland and people comply.

In the UK, people are less conformist, however in a crisis people pull together and your view is part of the tiny minority who are regarded generally as being anti-social, ignorant and poorly behaved dickheads, as your comment above confirms.

Spike31
1 Dec 2021  #8958

@jon357 got frustrated because people don't want to listen to "experts" who invented a new model of controlling and experimenting on, society and convinced half-wits that t is based on "science"

Not everyone is like you, @jon357, and behave like obedient cattle who will do anything to please their masters. Many people value their freedom and can use their own brains

Novichok
1 Dec 2021  #8959

..the raw draft plans till up to 7200,- Euros fine...every 6 months!

I have an idea how to assure 100% compliance in 24 hours or less: instant execution for any covid violation - including nose over the mask.

Those damn criminals not covering their death spreading nostrils...I am so afraid I will die any decade...

half-wits that t is based on "science"

If not "science" at least the ability to think clearly: disobedience = no grant money. No money ... you know how to extrapolate.
BTW, this model applies to everything - including global warming.

jon357
1 Dec 2021  #8960

because people don't want to listen to experts

They do. Even very much...

Many people value their freedom

Which is why they get vaccinated, not just for Covid-19 but also for other once common illnesses, like Polio, Rubella, TB etc. And why (at least here in Poland), people are wearing masks where required, just as you do. The difference is that unlike you, most people don't whine selfishly like a kid in a failed attempt to sow confusion.

Novichok
1 Dec 2021  #8961

people are wearing masks where required

...by the covid police that doesn't have a clue what - in numbers, not adjectives - those masks add to the wear's resistance. How about nothing since they can't stop the virus that small. If they can, then the virus is deposited on my mask and eventually will end up in my lungs sooner or later.

Does your mask flush every time you inhale? Mine neither. I mean the one I don't wear.

johnny reb
1 Dec 2021  #8962

GREECE imposes $114 monthly fine on unvaccinated people over 60.
Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis announced mandatory Covid-19 vaccination for all Greeks above 60 years of age before a cabinet meeting in Athens on Tuesday, in an effort to tackle the new omicron variation threat ahead of the festive season.

Those who refuse to get vaccinated will have to pay a monthly fine of 100 euros ($114) for each month they don't get jabbed, starting on Jan. 16, according to Mitsotakis.

Bobby McGee..........."freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"....

Spike31
1 Dec 2021  #8963

people are wearing masks where required, just as you do

No, I don't. I haven't worn a face muzzle even once since the beginning of the "pandemic". The fact that you are finding it hard to believe is flattering.

And I encouraged quite a few people to do so as well, especially at the beginning of the "pandemic" when the fear was real. Now it mostly hangs on the restrictions.

What I like about your recent posts is that you changed your perspective. You started to write that that non-conformism is a positive thing, even though you are a model conformist. I don't mind that you are a hypocrite as long as you're promoting the right values.

Dirk diggler
1 Dec 2021  #8964

Those who refuse to get vaccinated will have to pay a monthly fine of 100 euros ($114)

Totally worth it

jon357
1 Dec 2021  #8965

I haven't worn a

Yes you have.

that non-conformism is a positive thing

It is. Though if you want to try writing in a language other than your native one, you should perhaps choose a clearer term than one that is primarily associated with dissenting and austere religious observance.

ven though you are a model conformist.

No, I'm not. Far from it, and almost certainly far less of a conformist than you are or ever have been, despite whatever you may pretend here.

Rebel against things by all means (it's part of growing up), vote for who you like, live how you like (provided it doesn't harm others), say what you want, eat/drink/smoke/snort whatever you like, where whatever clothes you like, **** or be ****** by whoever you like (providing they consent). You can even grow your hair long, dye it in fancy colours and listen to whatever you like.

Where certain things are concerned however, for example speed limits/road safety, alcohol/substances and driving, infectious disease control, fire regulations, hurting minors and animal welfare, deliberate non-compliance with very specific and basic rules isn't being rebellious, it is being selfishly immature and it is a bore to hear about. It's nothing new. It's not big, it's not clever and nobody's impressed.

Nobody likes wearing masks or observing social distancing; yet it is not onerous, it exists for a very clear purpose and it is temporary. It is currently enforced by heavy fines. This is not because the grown-ups want you to behave like a good boy just for the sake of it, it is to prevent the spread of a disease that ends people's lives prematurely (including a member of my family) and which is currently putting a strain on hospital services in the UK and here in Poland.

If you dislike the legal requirements that you are subject to in the UK, you are not a prisoner there and are free to relocate to a society where the Covid restrictions are closer to your personal taste. Otherwise, grow up and stop pretending you're a rebel without a cause.

Novichok
1 Dec 2021  #8966

Nobody likes wearing masks or observing social distancing; yet it is not onerous,

There are many things we find repugnant that are not onerous. Stupid argument.

I like observing rules I understand. Nobody explained how masks work, yet you comply even when not threatened.

If I am wrong and you do understand how the throwaway masks work and the data behind them, please do tell us. We will be forever grateful.

jon357
1 Dec 2021  #8967

There are many things we find repugnant

You seem to find almost everything to a degree 'repugnant' and you rarely hesitate to express your feelings about them here (though not in real life, or people would flatten you). You still follow the rules though.

please do tell us.

Google it.

Novichok
1 Dec 2021  #8968

Google it.

You already did so why duplicate. Tell us how they work using numbers.

jon357
1 Dec 2021  #8969

Public health officials analyse precautionary measures and a great deal else well enough for us all (since that is part of their role) and nobody posting here needs to justify scientists' decisions to you or any other random internet troll..

amiga500
1 Dec 2021  #8970

masks work and the data behind them

nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y
"finding is based on a randomized trial involving nearly 350,000 people across rural Bangladesh. "

"The data show that even after 10 washes, surgical masks filter out 76% of small particles capable of airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2,"


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