Coronavirus in Poland

One more time...Why do I need a mask when I am not speaking, sneezing, coughing, or spitting?

Why would privacy be an issue ? this is a pandemic not a common cold...as for 'it's rude' I presume you don't want to hurt customers feelings...(think you ought to tell that to the thousands of people suffering in hospitals many of whom are likely to have caught the virus in shops from people not wearing masks...) I think Covid 19 trumps worrries about being 'rude' to customers...surely you are not saying that you would allow customers not to wear masks so as to avoid being rude....please...!!.

If the govt paid for the equipment and someone to stand outside my office and do covid checks then I might accept that. But there is no way I am doing it on my own dime. It's my office, my rules.

There's a thing called HIPAA in the United States that protects the privacy of peoples' health. I'm sure other developed countries have similar laws or at least a social standard where you don't ask about strangers' health.


Actually it is. It is literally a cold virus.


No one wears masks in the office. And when clients visit us the vast majority don't either. In the rare exception that a client does wear a mask the person/people he's there to see will put on a mask out of courtesy and respect, not because they're forced.

Afterall, this office is a MAGA/Trump oasis in a barren desert of white guilt liberals and the others that feed off of them.

Good. So you wear masks.


Good.


No it isn't.

My mask is my business. Their vaccine is their business. Get vaccinated and fu*ck off of my mask.

@Novichok
The problem Rich, is that even triple jabbed people can catch the virus and pass it on.
My daughter is an example, her symptoms were very mild, thanks to the jabs, but she could still infect others.

And even people that are jabbed can become very ill.

FFS what is the problem with wearing a mask in certain situations?

Nah, cattle sounds better IMHO. It's not so cliche as sheep.


The risk of dying from the flu, I'm sorry from a "deadly virus" is minuscule. And most of the people who died during this "pandemic" died from negligence since the "health" system was preoccupied with the trendy virus and forgot about other diseases. Others were old and sick and when tested positive for "covid" it was easy to blame it on the virus. We're in the middle of a "pandemic", no questions asked.

Back to a personal perspective:

Why would you take some unknown substance that may cause side effects and made you subject to a free medical trial? And not even only once but 2, and soon 3 times (that's not going to be the end), which significantly increases the risk of side effects?

Another issue is the quality of life. Why would you sacrifice your freedom of movement, freedom of choice, social and family life to submit to questionable measures imposed by the government to "protect" you from the flu?

And let's not forget that isolation lowers the natural immune system and affects mental health, which lowers the strength of the immune system even further.

The risk of passing it on to someone with a greater risk of dying from it is, however, not 'miniscule'.


What 'unknown substance'?


It isn't to protect 'you'...

I think you confused two different "scientific" dogmas: according to the "experts", it is a dust mask that protects the others ("wear the mask, save lives) and the "vaccine" supposed to give you immortality ("designed to give you immunity without the dangers of getting the disease" after WHO).

Since then it is subscription-based and doesn't work as intended but that was the original promise.

Yes, I know it is easy to get confused.

No dogmas here. Just public health advice which you pretend online that you don't follow.


Whoever said that?


Only if you're stupid enough to tale malign conspiracists seriously.

No grow up and stop pretending you aren't masked and vaxxed.

Heh, you just cannot stand that there are people who didn't submit, don't you? You are a totalitarian-minded person.

I'm sorry to upset you but not only I didn't but I'm also in great health. Just yesterday I've been sparring for one hour and didn't spit out my lungs ;-)


Just those flat earthers from WHO [World Health Organization]

who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/side-effects-of-covid-19-vaccines

You have to study the wisdom of the experts. I know that it is changing according to circumstances and the audience but try to be updated.

You did though, didn't you...


No they didn't. They didn't mention 'immortality' at al


Do you? Who are the experts then?

But since they are vaccinated, their symptoms will mild.

The concerning rhetoric from governments in the European Union about vaccine mandates raises the question of which EU countries will be less likely to impose such measures. What is the current situation in Poland with regard to mandates?

So far how many people have died from the new Wuhan Flu Variant? Not many are being hospitalized either, its a mild version just that same as other viruses that run their natural course.

I know sth is fishy when the msm is not talking numbers or running a tally....

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Like I said...Leftists do only two things well - lie and hide.

I watch local evening news regularly and would never know that the daily covid deaths in Illinois are dropping and are half of the recent peak and one-seventh of the highest rate way back exactly a year ago.

I really enjoy those pictures in your posts.

Here is another fact you wont hear on the msm fake media.. Guess which 2 States has the lowest infection rates now? Ill tell ya! Florida and Texas! So , much for the lying Fraud Fauci... Who listens to this moron anymore?


Prose bardzo..A picture is worth a 1000 words:)

Leftist response: See, those rightards are so bad that even the virus avoids them!!! Hahahahahaha...hahahahaha...
Seriously, if you compare the recent death rates, NY wins over Florida. In late August, Florida averaged 400 a day while NY did only 35.

worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

This is true even if their symptoms are mild.


Not the ones that have been fully vaccinated and hospitalized or died.

Ive been saving this one for the right time:)

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To feel any guilt, I need proof beyond reasonable doubt that I caused it by not wearing a mask. Just bs-ing me with generalities leaves me unmoved.

Do you disagree that fully vaccinated people have not been hospitalized or died from covid ?

I agree and claim that their deaths had nothing to do with my mask habits.

@johnny reb
I agree that fully vaccinated people have been hospitalized and have died. I also agree that fully vaccinated can spread COVID.

Do you agree that the unvaccinated are the overwhelming majority of COVID hospitalizations and deaths?

Do you agree that while getting the vaccine poses some risk, that the risk of hospitalization and death if you contract COVID with underlying conditions or old age that you are less likely to die if you are vaccinated?

Masks neither stop or protect anyone from infecting anyone unless they are worn in very close spaces with a lot of people present. They are completely useless outdoors and in open spaces. There is zero proof that in a plane full of vaccinated people who have all been tested within 72 hours that masks do anything more than make it uncomfortable to breath.

today's numbers

25.1 % percent of 109,011 tests (definitely peaking, and should soon start falling)

hospitalized: + 218 to 21,550

ICU: -8 to 1862 (first fall in a while)

daily deaths: 502 (331 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 352

You are getting as slipper as joun with your end around trying a redirect changing the topic of vaccines to masks.
Milo posted......@Novichok "The problem Rich, is that even triple jabbed people can catch the virus and pass it on."
Your reply was: "But since they are vaccinated, their symptoms will mild."
I questioned that remark with: "Not the ones that have been fully vaccinated and hospitalized or died."
Your response now is:


So not necessarily people that have been triple jabbed can only have mild symptoms.
Glad we got that straightened out. ;-)


Yes, I agree with everything you said even though you contradicted yourself too.



Glad we got that all straightened out. ;-)

From 6 feet, in 5 minutes, A (with the virus) can infect vaccinated and virus-free B with probability X. That's the baseline.
Now, let's assume that A is wearing a mask and can infect B with probability Y. Presumably, Y<X. You know, "masks help".
Question: what is Z=(X-Y)/X*100? That's the incremental improvement in percent as a result of A (me) wearing that mask.

My WAG is that Z is too small to matter to B.

Conclusion: fu*ck off and shove that idiotic mask where it belongs - and it ain't my face.

There was only one proper random trial - the Bangladesh one. It showed a 10 per event effect for surgical masks and no measurable difference for a Biedronka type mask.

It's still not been peer reviewed and I suspect it never will be. Then there is the issue of whether Bangladesh is a good place for a trial on a disease that hits old people, diabetics and hypertensives.

How many times do you have to repeat yourself here with your tuff guy potty mouth ?
We all know that YOU are not going to wear a mask as you have told us a hundred times now so lets move on with some new material.

I will wear a mask in a public place with lots of people to help avoid the flu and not covid.
Seemed to really make a difference last winter.