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Coronavirus in Poland



amiga500
2 Dec 2021  #9061

It showed a 10 per event effect for surgical masks

it showed a 10 percent reduction of covid with the mask wearing group of 30-40 percent wearing masks vs 13 percent wearing masks in the control group. Also the population density of bangledesh is quite high which mitigates its youthfull population.

"We only increased mask wearing by 29 percentage points. With higher rates of masking, we may have seen a larger effect."
More importantly the results were even better for the elderly "Results were even more promising for people ages 60+, who were 35% less likely to get sick. "

globalhealthnow.org/2021-09/qa-massive-bangladesh-mask-trial-unmasked

johnny reb
2 Dec 2021  #9062

Germany today announced a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated, as its leaders backed plans for mandatory vaccinations in the coming months.
Unvaccinated people will be banned from accessing all but the most essential businesses, such as supermarkets and pharmacies.

Korvinus
2 Dec 2021  #9063

mask

Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2021  #9064

But since they are vaccinated, their symptoms will mild.

Says who? There's plenty of vaxxed who ended up in the ER with covid or dead.

No it isn't.

Actually it is. It is a fact that roughly 85% of cold viruses are rhinoviruses and the remaining 15% are coronaviruses i.e. covid

Here's a list of the symptoms from CDC - there's no difference between that and a typical cold or flu... and just like the cold and flu, people die from it

Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea

It isn't to protect 'you'...

Precisely why I even give less of a ****. I wear a mask out of respect in a grocery or whatever if they get all anal about it. But I sure as **** will not put some ****** up gene therapy with unknown side effects and zero recourse to sue just to protect some ******* I don't even know.

unless they are worn in very close spaces

And yet some places force people to wear masks outdoors...

Novichok
3 Dec 2021  #9065

Says who? There's plenty of vaxxed who ended up in the ER with covid or dead.

I was just being facetious to make my point that those who got vaccinated do not need my mask because vaccines "work" so what's the problem.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9066

a typical cold or flu

A cold is not influenza, influenza is not a cold.

I wear a mask out of respect in a grocery or whatever if they get all anal about it.

If you come here to Poland, you will do as you are told.

amiga500
3 Dec 2021  #9067

If you come here to Poland, you will do as you are told.

diggler will not come, as he's too much of a pussy to get a vaccine, though i have some sympathy that astra is not available in the states or canada. hey diggler if ure wary of mrna vaccines (as i am) just do ure 14 day quarantine in poland. bribe the cops if u get caught busting it, and get your astra shot in poland, it's accepted in usa. or wait for novavax it's just around the corner. (1st qt 2022)

mafketis
3 Dec 2021  #9068

today's numbers

25.0 % percent of 107,963 tests (still peaking, and should soon start falling)

hospitalized: +485 to 22,035

ICU: +106 to 1968

daily deaths: 470 (343 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: +1 to 353

Braveheart16
3 Dec 2021  #9069

Dirk Diggler - list of the symptoms from CDC - there's no difference between that and a typical cold or flu....

You forgot to mention the fact that in some cases Covid causes permanent damage to the lungs and damage to the kidneys, brain......and can lead to lifetime medical problems (long term Covid) ie. difficulty in breathing, walking, etc requiring permanent medical intervention (with flu you simply recover with no long term problems).....its just not worth the risk to not get vaccinated or wear masks.

If you believe that you can cheat catching Covid then that is your decision but when you see the suffering of Covid patients in hospitals increasing, any such belief would seem to be misguided and reckless.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9070

hospitalised: +485 to 22,035

The media were saying that the real figure is two or three times that number.

though i have some sympathy that astra is not available in the states or canada.

Quite. Despite what Macron said (probably causing needless deaths), that seems to be the best one.

permanent damage to the lungs and damage to the kidneys, brain......and can lead to lifetime medical problems

But a guy on YouTube said it's just a cold!

Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2021  #9071

If you come here to Poland, you will do as you are told.

Or what? Someone going to force me? Good luck with that.

A cold is not influenza, influenza is not a cold.

No **** sherlock, hence why I wrote "typical cold OR flu"

some cases Covid causes permanent damage to the lungs and damage to the kidneys, brain...]and can lead to lifetime medical problems

Just like other cold viruses and flu - loss of hearing, myocarditis, brain damage, etc.

And just like the covid vaxx, especially in otherwise young healthy people who then have no legal recourse.

If you believe that you can cheat catching Covid then that is your decision

I already have on multiple occasions. I was around at least a dozen people in very close contact with people who had covid since this plandemic started. I even shared a joint with my buddy who had it. What was the result? One time I most likely caught it and fought it off within a day by taking some ibuprofen and going to bed early.

suffering of Covid patients in hospitals increasing

My grandma is in the hospital right now with covid (which she caught while in the hospital for an unrelated issue) and she's already on O2, they're most likely going to vent her which according the Lancet at her age she has roughly 20-30% chance to live. It'd be a miracle if she makes it and I pray she does. Nonetheless, it doesn't change a thing for me. And at least like me she'll die a pureblood refusing to take experimental gene therapies because someone else demands it.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9072

Or what? Someone going to force me?

Yes.

hence why I wrote "typical cold OR flu"

You think influenza is 'typical'?

as he's too much of a pussy

He forgets the responsibility he has to people in physical proximity to him and the community as a whole.

Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2021  #9073

Yes.

Good luck with that one. What someone going to strap me down and inject me with a vaxx? Yeah not gonna happen. I'd rather do time again.

You think influenza is 'typical'?

I said the symptoms of covid are not dissimilar for a TYPICAL COLD OR FLU... not typical cold or flu... you know for someone who tries to pass themselves off as a psuedointellectual you really have terrible reading comprehension. I'll try to bring it down to a 6th grade level for you next time.

It most certainly is - over 1mln people had it in 2020 and 20k died from it.

He forgets the responsibility he has to people in physical proximity to him and the community as a whole.

I have zero responsiliby to anyone but myself and my family. Everyone else can rot for all I care. They dgaf about me and I don't gdaf about them just as I dgaf about you and you don't dgaf about me so let's drop the act and be realistic.

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society - Aristotle.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9074

What someone going to strap me down and inject me with a vaxx? Yeah not gonna happen. I'd rather do time again.

If it becomes compulsory in the EU, probably. And if you're in prison again, definitely.....

TYPICAL COLD OR FLU

There is no 'typical' influenza.

I have zero responsiliby

Your collection of mugshots online show this to be so.

Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2021  #9075

diggler will not come, as he's too much of a pussy to get a vaccine,

You don't need to get a vaccine to enter Poland if you're a citizen... you have to quarantine for 7-10 days... that's it...

There is no 'typical' influenza.

Again 6th grade reading comprehension from a psuedointellectual... there is no typical written in front of the word influenza

Your collection of mugshots online show this to be so.

I'll make sure to smile next time = D

If it becomes compulsory in the EU

Except in won't in Poland, just like LGBT marraige or a deluge of migrants isn't going to happen - we're not western european cucks... as of now there is no political will to enforce that, Poland has already established Polish law trumps EU law, and only about half of the population is even vaxxed in the first place because the other half of Polish people aren't stupid and realize what a crock of **** this is.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9076

Except in won't in Poland, j

If it's EU-wide, it certainly will.

And if you come here, you will comply.

mafketis
3 Dec 2021  #9077

The media were saying that the real figure is two or three times that number.

The media has become a hostile force with a vested interest in whipping up fear. I stick with official numbers for the time being.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9078

official numbers

Polish ones??

mafketis
3 Dec 2021  #9079

Actually I've been posting numbers from Mozambique for the past few months, didn't you get the memo?

Novichok
3 Dec 2021  #9080

I have zero responsiliby to anyone but myself and my family.

It's like hearing myself. Thank you, Dirk. My version is shorter: Fu*ck 'em.
When I will be dying of something, I will be lucky to have a nurse next to me asking if I am dead yet.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9081

numbers from Mozambique f

Probably as reliable as the ones from here.

Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2021  #9082

If it's EU-wide, it certainly will.

And if you come here, you will comply.

Oh you're going to be the one who forces me? Because I doubt any Polish authority will. I have family members with young children who haven't received the supposedly mandated childhood vaccines and they attend school just like any other child in Poland. No authority has yet to bother them and I'm sure living in a suburban/rural on a large lot has a lot to do with it.

Besides, Polish law trumps EU law. It's been decided by the highest authority - the Constitutional Tribunal, which is even higher than the Supreme Court. Polish people don't take too kindly to draconian measures after experiencing Communism.

And even *IF* that happens I'm sure I'll think of a clever way to get out of it, even if that means parachuting out of twin prop onto one of our properties and living off savings/working from home.

When I will be dying of something, I will be lucky to have a nurse next to me asking if I am dead yet.

See I'm not scared of death one bit and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I've been in so many ****** up situations when I was in my teens and early 20's it doesn't even phase me. I've spread my seed and will leave my family a bit of money so my purpose in life has already been completed. I'm much more scared of not living my life to the fullest everyday than dying. That's why I'm not going to let some control freak cheerleaders try to influence me and I'll take a bullet before I take a vaxx I don't want.

Novichok
3 Dec 2021  #9083

Polish people don't take too kindly to draconian measures after experiencing Communism.

The problem with debating PF leftists is that they want to re-impose communism and that's why all of them like those "draconian measures". In this case, using covid as a pretext - lubricated with because we love you and we want what's best for you and society.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9084

Oh you're going to be the one who forces me?

There you go again. The state will force you. And smile while they're doing it.

I'm sure I'll think of a clever way to get out of it,

Like you avoided multiple arrests and jail?

one of our properties

Oh dear...

Novichok
3 Dec 2021  #9085

The state will force you.

...and you love it...

Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2021  #9086

There you go again. The state will force you. And smile while they're doing it.

Yes, because you have a crystal ball and you can predict exactly what Poland is going to do... riiiiight....

And just like they came to vaxx a few young kids in the family by force...

If you want to get an idea of the future look at the past and present which tells us that there is no political will to implement mandates as it's a line the government doesn't want to cross (according to Duda the PL President), the Tribunal has ruled PL law trumps EU law, and most importantly half the society doesn't want it.

What happened in Walbrzych recently when the mayor wanted to implement mandates? A mob showed up in front of his house. He's lucky they didn't torch his place. He gave some lip and then ultimately backed down.

Like you avoided multiple arrests and jail?

Yes actually - if I got caught with all the other **** I'd probably be doing 20 to L. I Thank God for the experience because I learned more about myself and the world than I had in the 18 20 or whatever years prior. I Plus I got to plot with the other White guys and Latinos on how we're going to jump black guys every day to help pass the time.

And besides, that's my old life. I haven't gotten so much as a parking ticket in 4-5 years and if God wills it for more years to come. The black widow spider on my left arm permanently faces downward, not upward.

Crow
3 Dec 2021  #9087

After long and dubious contemplation I concluded how Corona virus makes good to Poland and other Slavic countries. Very good. Changes in Europe. What was down goes up and what was up goes down. Its especially important in case of Slavs. We were up but Italians, Greeks, Germans and Anglo's robbed us. Now we consolidate and they can`t believe what happening to them.

jon357
3 Dec 2021  #9088

because you have a crystal ball and you can predict exactly what Poland is going to do

Not difficult if it's an EU-wide vaccine mandate.

And besides, that's my old life.

Not if you break the law here it isn't.

mafketis
3 Dec 2021  #9089

an EU-wide vaccine mandate.

Not a single place on the planet has vaccinated itself out of the pandemic. The most heavily vaccinated places just have more breakthrough cases.

How's about giving up a failed policy....

Atch
3 Dec 2021  #9090

The process of making EU laws (or regulations to use the correct term) takes so long that it's unlikely we'll see an official EU wide vaccine mandate before the spring and by then the Covid situation will have changed yet again. The most we're likely to see is an EU directive - but these are strange times, so who knows?


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