Coronavirus in Poland

today's numbers

19.7 % percent of 101,839 (definitely starting to fall)

hospitalized : -166 to 23,797

ICU:-24 to 2106

So percentage of positive tests, hospitalizations and ICU numbers are all down. Peak passed, waiting for the decline to gain momentum.

daily deaths: 566 (418 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: +4 to 421

daily deaths are the last to fall but should be lower next week....

Some people actually believe that.
Point is, I proved your statement wrong.


And I straightened you out on that claim too.


Most Unbelievers' do so I am not moved by your selfish outlook on life.
We Believers have a much different outlook as we have what is called Faith and believe in eternal salvation.
If you don't and are wrong about it you have a whole lot to lose for eternity (which is a long time) while if I am wrong, I have nothing to lose.

Did ya get it that time ?
The US is reporting an average of more than 120,000 new infections a day, a 40 per cent increase in cases from two weeks ago and about 70 per cent more than early November.

We should reach herd immunity soon at this rate. :-)

@johnny reb
I hope so, because all the noise is irritating. They are also saying 10K deaths per week potentially for the next three to four months in USA alone. I like that too, lots of real estate bargains in Spring.

Poland unfortunately has had a vaccination surge, so no real estate sales here probably. Thankfully though surges in France look like they could be lucrative.

I find it very troubling that there is no meaningful difference between right-wing and left-wing governments, when it comes to vaxx pressure and mandates.

In other words, ostensible political leanings seem to have no policy effect. On the one hand, we have right-wingers in Austria mandating the vaxx along with Orban in Hungary pushing the vaxx as well - and on the other hand we have globalist SJWs in Sweden providing arguably the greatest civil liberties in Europe.

With policies disconnected from politics, the vaxx agenda seems to be mostly influenced by the civil servants in place when this thing hit.

I am not civil servant, and I don't know what makes them tick or what influences them.

There is a system failure, obviously. Remember this is called SARS and it is still flogged as being "dangerous" now two years after being introduced. That longer than the Spanish Flu.

Against the Spanish Flu, people had nothing - in fact, it is unclear what the Spanish Flu was even today. It's just assumed to be a flu virus. Either way, it disappeared in less than two years.

Though it has to be said: has this global deadly pandemic ever been here? If people were not wearing masks, getting tested, branding vaccine passports, getting vaccinated, being bombarded by propaganda and gaslighted by the pharmacos and governments, would you know that there is a "deadly global pandemic"?

@Korvinus
Spanish flu actually is what killed my ancestor after arriving from Poland. The SF was widely publicized in newpapers at the time. Mask mandates no, but mask recommendations were definitely in the media. It was not completely gone in 2 years, it took almost three before heard immunity in a much smaller population was achieved. I did some research on this when learning about my family history. Fascinating really because the response was similar given the lack of technology at the time, not nearly the level of government distrust though.

Actually, I am finding that this topic has become very boring for me lately.
If you find yourself talking about Covid nonstop two years in, it is time to move on.
Not just because your neighbors have been brainwashed, though obviously they have been, but because your neighbors are boring.
Covid is simply not an interesting topic in one's private life even though it has killed millions of people.
No doubt Covid has killed a lot of people but so has prostate cancer
Imagine telling people about your prostate every day for the next two years.
You would be boring.
And that's exactly what Covid talk from the "drama mama's" sounds to the well adjusted among us.
I think we have educated the members here that Covid is all about Control by Fear and $Money$.
Most of us are over it just like we are with the dust masks.
The real purpose behind the unprecedented push to vaccinate the very young, even against diseases like Covid, that do not pose a threat to them, is to fold the current generation of children into the blossoming global digital identity system.

Covid was not released by accident.

Note on written verbal self-defense for whoever might need it here.

The above post is full of bait (quite desperate bait at that), the poster has no interest in anything but receiving attention (good, bad it's all the same - getting screamed at in writing fires the same neurons that praise does in such lamentably impaired individuals. Let's not oblige him, just ignore the bait and swim on past.

Though your contribution is duly noted and dismissed as pointless.
And here is another false accusation about me.
Now please stay On-Topic maf and stop your trolling attacks.


Well here are you actual words.


Read this and then apologize by saying, "I was wrong, J.R."
But we already know that Liberals never admit when they are wrong.

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-said-in-july-that-if-you-get-vaccinated-you-will-not-get-covid/ar-AART6wH?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

@johnny reb
Joe Biden does not count, he is not a medical professional or an expert in anything accept napping.

I say he does in this case.
Your remark simply was not true, I caught you on it, and now you are in your denial about it by trying to move the goal posts by adding new material for the first time about being a "Medical Professional" to meet Your after the fact requirement.

You are not quite as brilliant as you pretend to be.
Now man up and say, "j.r., you are right and I was wrong."
And for the umteenth time PolAm, stay on topic or I am going to give you another warning.

What ever Johnny, not going to waste my time with you on this any more

Did you know that "What Ever" is the number one copout line of all time ?
Come on PolAm, just admit it, as bad as it will crush your intellectual alter ego. :-)

That's very sad. And despite the name National Geographic had a story a few years ago speculating there's a good chance it originated in...... (wait for it.....)...... China.

They dug up a respiratory virus that had been in China before the SF and.... it was the same thing....

IIRC it could have been exported by Canada bringing in Chinese for some reason during WWI...

To get back on the covid topic......


These are so called "highly educated" people.
This contrasts with the claim by the American Medical Association that 96 percent of practicing physicians are fully vaccinated.
This was based on 300 respondents.
Neither survey represents a random sample of all American physicians, but the AAPS survey shows that physician support for the mass injection campaign is far from unanimous.

Why are the majority of physicians refusing covid vaccinations ?

finance.yahoo.com/news/majority-physicians-decline-covid-shots-174600201.html

What about the Konfederacja in Poland?
But overall I lost all my hope in politicians, no matter if left, right, or center.

Medical history still won't admit that absurdly high aspirin doses made the Spanish Flu much worse than it should have been. And it took about a century for American football to officially cause brain damage even if WWI soldiers knew about shell shock. Or the real truth about polio.

amazon.com/Moth-Iron-Lung-Biography-Polio-ebook/dp/B07DJR7F6H

Think about how long it took for SCIENCE!!! to acknowledge the dangers of smoking, asbestos, leaded gasoline. Think about how often big pharma had to pay billions and billions of dollars in fines. If you want to take the vaccine, go ahead. Nobody here can really tell you how dangerous or effective it is. That data is only available to the people selling their product.

Basically yes, and in real time, people are getting sick, dying, schools are closing, businesses are failing, careers on hold and travel plans are a mess.

One thing that stands out is the sheer amount of fake news and cynicism about scientists and public health doctors. Meanwhile Omicron has reached Poland, a country where the hospitals are strained enough as it is.

Seems like omicron will be the media's realized sensation. My newfeed is swamped with it. Feels like they're a lot more successful where delta failed. We'll see, but I feel like lockdowns are creeping up again. I hope we see resistance this time.

Just wait until more permafrost melts and all sorts of baddies defrost.

This is very far from the first pandemic and certainly won't be the last. At least medical science is developing as fast as it can.

A lovely quote from Michael O'Leary, the head of Ryanair:

"We recognise the rights of everybody to decide not to get vaccinated if you so want. If you personally object to vaccination, because it's some huge government/big pharma conspiracy; apart from the fact that you would be plainly an idiot, we respect your right to be an idiot."

Indeed, the mrna vaccine is prove of thst. Imagine where we would be without it, likely stuck with at best ineffective vaccines like the one from China.

The omicron variant of Covid is proving to be "markedly resistant" to the current Covid vaccines, antibody treatments, and even booster shots.
The poor brainwashed jabbers will be demanding a new EXPERIMENTAL vaccine for our governments to FORCE us to get jabbed with. Baaaa Baaaa

Fine, but just leave us alone then lol

Sources with facts please.
Will that happen before or after the sky falls ?


Basically yes, while promoting drama with doomsday what "if's" and "probable's" with only the word "scientists" as a source to base the foolish fodder of self-opinions on.

How about this FACT, "More people between the ages of 18-45 have died from Fentanyl than from Covid."
Yet we are being "Forced" to get jabbed with EXPERIMENTAL vaccines by our governments who originally said would protect you from getting Covid (b.s. lie) while our southern border is left wide open, by our anything but truthful government, for smuggles to bring in tons of Fetanyl !

Now that raises a red flag to support another 'conspiracy' as the Baaa Baaa jabbers call them.

I have taken the coward's way out and fled to warmer climes for the Xmas holidays so I' won't be here much. I might post updates on numbers every few days, but...

today, percentage of positives is down (under 19 %) and hospitalizations and ICU are also down.

enjoy the decline!

Also: likely, may, and might. That ain't no science. Palm reading and casino gambling are more science than this crap.
Covid, like AIDS, has been elevated to a special status and any fact or logic-based discussions are prohibited. If you try, they will ban you.

Deaths from cancer - routine stuff. Nothing to get excited about.

In a crisis, idiots like yourself are the last that authorities have to worry about.

That's China's philosophy too.
Maybe these jabbers like joun would be happier living in China.
How many new covid care hospitals have been built in the last two years by the drama jabbers ?


What crisis ?
The hospitals are full for two reasons.
1. Because the hospitals get paid extra for ever covid bed
2. The hoity toity cry babies with the most mild cases have the $$$ to run to the hospital to be waited on.
When I had a severe case of covid, from the get go of this, the hospital told me not to come near so I stayed home and gutted it out by coughing my guts out and sleeping 20 hours a day.

A lot of these crybabies don't even have any symptoms but test positive so they run right to the hospital and cry wolf to get admitted.

Take these milk soppers out of the equation and there would be plenty of room in the "stressed out" hospitals.
Sorry, but this is why my sympathy level is so low.

To actually believe covid IS dangerous you have to be a social outcast who blindly parrots the MSM.
If you actually have to live a social life and work through the "pandemic," you would soon understand that covid is a complete nothingburger and is nothing to be scared of. There are no plague carts in the streets and nobody even knows a person dead from covid.

On the other hand every other person I talk to seems to have a horror story about someone who was jabbed. I don't even fish for it, people just open up to me when I say it's all bollocks and they then let their real feelings out and speak about personal experiences they dare not share before, for fear of being called an anti vaxx loon.

Exactly Korvinus ! and thank you.
And here is today's daily propaganda by MSN to prove it.

If you're vaccinated, "we've done the right thing, and we will get through this," White House COVID coordinator Jeff Zients said.
"For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm."

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-unvaccinated-are-looking-at-a-winter-of-severe-illness-and-death-white-house/ar-AARVEN3?ocid=msedgdhp&li=BBnb7Kz