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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Wulkan
10 Jul 2015  #271

and future German, English and French :-)

Hopefully!

So your're happy if they won't stay in Poland? What kind of multi-kulti lover are you? :-)

delphiandomine
10 Jul 2015  #272

Fact is, while the left wing calls for the destruction of the Polish culture and try to convince the poles to reject their own culture and religion, in Japan the midia enforces the Japanese culture and their way of life.

What are you on about? Poland doesn't have a state religion, nor does it have one culture.

That is what makes me be a bit pessimist about the future of Poland as a country.

Then don't come here, because you're destroying the culture.

Maybe will become Polandistan and Warsaw will be Warsaristan. I dont know, i prefer to not think about such tragic future.

Here's hoping.

Levi
10 Jul 2015  #273

"What are you on about? Poland doesn't have a state religion, nor does it have one culture. "

Neither turkey. But as turkey is 99% muslim, Poland is 94% Catholic.

So when you go around shouting that churches should be destroyed, you are disrespecting 94% of the Poles (and a fair part of the 6% that are not catholic also would be offended) and ultimately you are disrespecting polish culture and heritage.

"Then don't come here, because you're destroying the culture. "

Who are you to tell me where i should go, brit boy?

jon357
10 Jul 2015  #274

Poland doesn't have a state religion, nor does it have one culture.

Exactly. The homogeneity is a fairly recent thing, a temporary blip. The refugees I think will have a positive impact - many have much more to give than take.

So when you go around shouting that churches should be destroyed

Examples, or it didn't happen.

delphiandomine
10 Jul 2015  #275

Neither turkey. But as turkey is 99% muslim, Poland is 94% Catholic.

So? The country is secular, as guaranteed by the constitution.

So when you go around shouting that churches should be destroyed, you are disrespecting 94% of the Poles (and a fair part of the 6% that are not catholic also would be offended) and ultimately you are disrespecting polish culture and heritage.

One problem with your figure is that less than 40% of Poles actually go to church.

Anyway, no-one wants to destroy any churches. They're doing a grand job of destroying themselves.

Invincible
10 Jul 2015  #276

"The refugees I think will have a positive impact - many have much more to give than take."

1st: They are not refugees, they are illegal immigrants.

2nd: Yes, sure someone that doesnt speak polish (nor english), doesn't have any advanced technical skill nor money to invest, and still will suck a lot of Government Welfare money, will give a lot to Poland. Sure Sure....

"One problem with your figure is that less than 40% of Poles actually go to church."

So What?

I Don't go to church but i am a practicing catholic.

You DON'T have the right (specially you, a british citizen) to disrespect and ask for destruction of the religion of 94% of the Population of the country that is hosting you.

delphiandomine
10 Jul 2015  #277

1st: They are not refugees, they are illegal immigrants.

They're not illegal if the EU accepts them, they will be legally resident in Poland.

2nd: Yes, sure someone that doesnt speak polish (nor english), doesn't have any advanced technical skill nor money to invest, and still will suck a lot of Government Welfare money, will give a lot to Poland. Sure Sure....

Oh Levi... perhaps you should learn a thing or two about the welfare state in Poland.

jon357
11 Jul 2015  #278

They're not illegal if the EU accepts them, they will be legally resident in Poland.

Exactly. One thing they are emphatically not is "illegal immigrants".

will give a lot to Poland

They will - these are the people with the nous to get out. Don't knock people's ambition.

ask for destruction of the religion of 94% of the Population of the country that is hosting you.

Firstly, Levi, no country is 'hosting' me - I have the same right to be there as any Pole. Secondly, as for "ask for destruction of the religion", give examples or just admit it's one of your usual lies.

I Don't go to church but i am a practicing catholic.

It is possible to attend mass in they country you are lucky enough to be allowed to work in. Are you in Riyadh? Plenty of possibilities on the Filipino and Keralan compounds.

USERNAMER
12 Jul 2015  #279

How many Poles have left the country over the past decade looking for work?

Smart logic Luxembourg

Polonius3
13 Jul 2015  #280

not refugees,

Some 70 percent of Poles don't want a mandatory obligation to take in refugees from Africa and the Middle East.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/213456,Most-Poles-dont-want-refugees

jon357
13 Jul 2015  #281

Tough Tamale - Poland joined the EU and Schengen after a much discussed referendum - too late now to pick and choose which bits people wish they hadn't signed up to but did at the time.

Polonius3
13 Jul 2015  #282

too late

It's never too late as you will see when one coutnry after the other starts opting out of various EU stranglehold "obligations", the euro and maybe membership entirely. And it won't be any too soon!

Byebye EU, byebye PO! Normality will eventually triumph. Long live IV RP!

Crow
13 Jul 2015  #283

Pressure? a? a? Expect increase of pressure

jon357
13 Jul 2015  #284

And it won't be any too soon!

It won't happen at all - Poland has one of the highest approval ratings for the EU in the entire Union.

It seems that the rough will be taken with the smooth however much racists will huff and puff.

Dave4
13 Jul 2015  #285

Democracy is the people, if 70% say NIE then domestic politicians should listen to them above any eu. Same's true for the Greek peeps + the refused bail out ;)

jon357
13 Jul 2015  #286

Democracy is the people, if 70% say NIE then domestic politicians should listen to them

Democracy isn't mob rule or opinion polls. It is organised and it has parameters. If a democratic decision is made in a full referendum, one can't then chance part of that decision on the basis of an opinion poll. And an out of context one too, unless the participants were reminded before giving their answer that the massive EU subsidies that Poland receives are conditional on membership.

Polsyr
13 Jul 2015  #287

one can't then chance part of that decision on the basis of an opinion poll. And an out of context one too

Exactly!

Anyway, let the racists, bigots, and idiots (actually all three are the same) beat themselves on the head with their empty (or full) liquor bottles. Immigrants will start arriving here very soon and there is nothing they can do about it. And I am personally going out to welcome every batch and welcome them to their new home.

jon357
13 Jul 2015  #288

let the racists, bigots, and idiots (actually all three are the same) beat themselves on the head with their empty (or full) liquor bottles.

They do that anyway. The refugees will come to Poland, funds are provided by the EU (as with so many other projects in Poland) and life will go on - maybe it'll even get better ;-)

And I am personally going out to welcome every batch and welcome them to their new home.

I will do my best with this.

national
13 Jul 2015  #289

You Polsyr and the rest of you foreigners can welcome those illegals in your own countries but PL is not your country and never will be so shut up and respect the will of Polish people and if you don't like it you are free to go back to where you came from.Period!

jon357
13 Jul 2015  #290

the will of Polish people

To join the EU you mean? Or for some racist to pretend an out of context telephone survey is a referendum...

Tough 'national'. It won't be that long before the people coming receive citizenship (hopefully fast tracked ) and become Polish anyway.

Polsyr
13 Jul 2015  #291

You Polsyr

Unlike you, I have documents that say otherwise.

Dougpol1
13 Jul 2015  #292

Some 70 percent of Poles don't want a mandatory obligation to take in refugees from Africa and the Middle East.
Most-Poles-dont-want-refugees

Yep - just had a very smart and very young engineer round at Dougpol Mansions for a interview session. He just happened to mention the refugees in passing (I didn't comment, other than nodding, as he is a client) and he was adamant that Poland doesn't want them and that they would be refused by the state opting-out of EU negotiations/agreements. Or his mates would spring to the aid of the "Defence League...."

Mind you - he does originate from Polska B :)

Vox
13 Jul 2015  #293

Democracy isn't mob rule or opinion polls

So you are saying that regardless of what most people think it really doesn't matter. You imply that politicians elected by those people will and should act against the will of the majority at least as long as it is something you agree with.

I have news for you it isn't democracy either.

The refugees I think will have a positive impact

I'm sure they will, I hope they will be placed in and around big cities. Particularly around those known for their annual gay pride parades.

Anyway, let the racists, bigots, and idiots (actually all three are the same) beat themselves on the head with their empty (or full) liquor bottles

You sir have neatly described yourself and your fellow travelers. You actually believe that your ideological bigotry is something to be admired. You also believe that your mindless adherence to ideological dogmas automatically transforms you into an intellectual mastermind.

In fact your ability to cohesive reasoning is being transformed into that of a dysfunctional baboon playing with a turd hanging from his ass, metaphorically speaking of course.

Polonius3
13 Jul 2015  #294

refugees I think will have a positive impact

edit Prewar Poland had over 30% non-Poles: including German 5th columnists, Ukrainian terrorists and unassimilable Jews. It wasn't a pretty picture despite what all the multi-culti creeps claim.

TheOther
13 Jul 2015  #295

Prewar Poland had over 30% non-Poles: including German 5th columnists, Ukrainian terrorists and unassimilable Jews.

Most of them were Polish citizens by choice. Ethnic Germans for example were forced by the government of the Weimar Republic to give up their German citizenship once they decided to stay in Poland after WW1. Read up on "Optantenlisten"

Polonius3
13 Jul 2015  #296

were Polish citizens by choice

And many decided to engage in subversive activities in the Nazi 5th column, the Jews in the outlawed KPP which took its orders from Moscow and the Ukranians in nationalist terrorist groups including the assassination of Poland's interior minister. Holding some citizenship does not prevent one from engaging in criminal activity.

we are drifting away from the topic

Avalon
13 Jul 2015  #297

You also believe that your mindless adherence to ideological dogmas automatically transforms you into an intellectual mastermind.

The moment jon357 and polsyr started calling people racist, just because others disagree with them, shows the true colours of the lefty, liberal, indoctrination. Stifle all debate by calling everyone racists and bigots. The fact that EU citizens wishing to live in Poland have to prove that they are able to sustain themselves and not have a criminal record and have to take out private medical insurance, I find that jon357 and polsyr who think that economic migrants, who enter the European Union without papers or a valid visa, should be welcomed and be given financial aid and accommodation to be racist towards me.

Why should they get preferential treatment?

Dougpol1
13 Jul 2015  #298

I am not able to sustain myself, have a criminal record and do not need private medical insurance. and do not have to prove, or deny those facts. And I am a EU citizen and have Stalyt Probyt/

Now stop being an ignoramus and a prat.

Avalon
14 Jul 2015  #299

Now stop being an ignoramus and a prat.

When you have to use insults you have lost the argument. Goodnight.

Dougpol1
14 Jul 2015  #300

When you have to use insults you have lost the argument.

But when you post statements about EU nationals having to prove or show any personal history to the authorities. it is clearly misinformation to serve your anti-everything "Poland for the Poles" propaganda. If you don't want to be derided then don't make up silly stories?


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