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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



jon357
11 May 2017  #3151

and i have never ever seen ,even once a gang of white boys harassing girls.

In thirty years in Britain and many, many visits back since, I never saw any gang of boys harassing girls. Anywhere. And btw, I worked in Woolopolis for a few years.

reading same stories in The Sun or Mirror:

Buy better newspapers.

rape,murder,assault,Bulgary ect..and all those faces look the same..guess what they have in common?

Poor whites, mostly. Remind me what the second most common nationality in U.K. gaols is?

gregy741
11 May 2017  #3152

Buy better newspapers.

i dont buy them,its cafes property hehehe
honestly man,i lived like 4-5 years in whitechapel,abit in peckham and few years in brixton.
am not libtard ignorant idiot..i seen many things

jon357
11 May 2017  #3153

its cafes property hehehe

Good idea.

i seen many things

I've just never seen stuff like that. The nearest thing I saw to that was young men mostly of Pakistani roots yelling "get 'em off" at the hoors standing on Lumb Lane or Thornton Rd in Bradford. And that sort of thing happens here in PL without the Pakistani influence.

gregy741
11 May 2017  #3154

thing happens here in PL without the Pakistani influence.

but its kinda easier to accept it when your own ppl doing this.when other doing s.hit in your country , it anger you more.for some reason

Polonius3
11 May 2017  #3155

Is 'racial mixing' a problem

Encouraged or enforced racial mixing promoted as part of some ulterior agenda of an evil megalomanic billionaire playing "god" is definteily a problem. The more things a family has in common -- language, culture, religion, Weltanschauung, views on child rearing, interests, hobbies, etc., the better the chance of success.

jon357
11 May 2017  #3156

Encouraged or enforced racial mixing promoted as part of some ulterior agenda of an evil megalomanic billionaire playing "god" i

No such thing exists, Po.

it anger you more.for some reason

Certainly a lot of people feel that.

spiritus
11 May 2017  #3157

I'm looking for it, all I've found is data showing that there is an issue with Asian men being involved with street crime against children, .

I have to be honest and say the figure of 95% seems very high. I'd also be interested to see the source for this. It is a fact that there are a disproportionate amount of Asian men involved in the grooming and sexual abuse of white girls in the UK but I also can't find anything remotely near the 95% figure quoted.

Polonius3
11 May 2017  #3158

No such thing

Stonewalling is to be expected when convincing ripostes are lacking. But your frequent raving about the cosmopolitan, ie mutli-culti, is also understandable. Anyone representing a suspect MO, lifestyle or ideology tries to promote buzz, bustle, confusion and disruption. I'm sure you would nto want a Chinaman, Arab or Afro as a partner but you promote the idea of racila mixing becuase it will shake things up and the general confusion is a way to take the heat off your own suspect activities, although you will claim they are not reprehensible. And you support Soros not because you expect a fraction of a crumb off his table, but because his agenda of total disruption of normal existing social values is the best guarantee of the mega-confusion you yearn.

Dirk diggler
11 May 2017  #3159

Jon I will send a link to see this a short clip. Basically it examines several pro gender neutral race mixing policies is actively being pushed by many European governments for children in kindergarten. I'm having trouble accessing signing in now atm but I can tell you such a policy is definitely being pushed. Basically children are taught to be gender neutral so that they can 'decide' what gender they wish to be later in life. This is why when I'm ready to have a family I will most likely send my children to an elite private school in poland or russia.

If poland is ever endangered by any enemy - Muslims , Putin (I respect the guy so itd break my heart) or whoever I will gladly give my life to preserve poland. I learned how to shoot a rifle at 9, had my first 22 lr at 12, and can shoot a pack of cigs at 100 meters with any plain old iron sights. I hope another battle of Vienna doesn't occur but I will certainly partake if it does. If the government of poland ever declares war or has war declared on it you can bet you'll see my spikey hair at the front lines : )

jon357
11 May 2017  #3160

actively being pushed

Or simply best practice. No sort of 'pushing'.

Basically children are taught to be gender neutral so that they can 'decide' what gender they wish to be later in life.

That makes sense, rather than promote gender roles. Very hard to see what this has to do with migration in Europe.

total disruption of normal existing social values

No such thing.

Dirk diggler
11 May 2017  #3161

I guess I'm just more traditional and wish to raise my family the same way people have since humans used stone tools. Then again I'm not hip the whole gender neutral thing.

Call me old fashioned because i could hardly imagine a father who is proud of a son that wears a dress plays with dolls and bakes cookies.

Jon it is tied to immigration in that many conservative traditional people feel their values, culture and tradition are being eroded what we commonly refer to as cultural Marxism - the eroding of the family unit, mixing the white European out of existence, and pushing homosexuality onto children at a young age (oftentimes homosexuality is taught at an age where children don't even understand what hetero sex is). We feel too often like themajorities freedoms are being limited to make way for a small minority. I understand you don't agree with it but try to at least see it from our point of view.

Keep to the topic of the thread please

jon357
11 May 2017  #3162

I have to be honest and say the figure of 95% seems very high. I'd also be interested to see the source for this.

The figure is certainly made up. Most sexual crimes, whether real or alleged, take place within the home.

Polonius3
11 May 2017  #3163

No such thing.

More stonewalling!

Polonius3
11 May 2017  #3164

Buy better newspapers

Indeed. There's a stack of unsold "Sh*t Sheets" just waiting to be bought. And to think how many years it took many people to see through that anti-Polish propaganda.

Ironside
11 May 2017  #3165

Women/girls are EASY Prey due to vacuum of support of an extended family AND LACK thereof OF a CLOSEKNITT COMMUNITY.

"Sh*t Sheets"

paper by office boys for office boys.

Polonius3
11 May 2017  #3166

things are fine here

Can't disagree with you on that score, becuase terrorists and towelheads are definitely not welcome in Poland. As the consummate poll watcher (no pun intended) you know that three-quarters of the Polish nation oppose receiving migrants.

BTW you seem to have an inside line to the total opposition. What then is the official PO policy? Yesterday Schetryna said he was opposed to recveiving refugees. "They shouldn't come here," were his exact words. And yet Kopacz and other PO types are all for welcoming migrant hordes. So which is it?

jon357
11 May 2017  #3167

towelheads

Do you think that's an acceptable word to use?

definitely not welcome in Poland

In fact several million Muslims have the same right as me or any other Polish or EU citizen (and obviously more than yourself) to settle and live in Poland. Increasingly people are choosing to do so.

"Sh*t Sheets"

After all, it isn't as if you or anyone else was turned down for a job on the newspaper you condemn the most and had to do online stuff.

Ironside
11 May 2017  #3168

Come on people. Jon quite openly ( due prise) admitted to be a Marxist. Commies have this an unholy allices with radical Islam because both share hatred towards western civilization, they want to tear it down. Commies to build their utopia in its place, and Muslims a Caliphate but both agree that western civilization is *** and should go. Hence they are allies.

jon357
11 May 2017  #3169

Muslims a Caliphate

Most actually don't.

western civilization is *** and should go

Po says this at least thrice daily.

Nothing stays the same, everything changes, history is unrecognisable to us now, just as Europe (and the bit we currently call Poland) will be unrecognisable in the future.

Dirk diggler
12 May 2017  #3170

That's where all the tensions lay - some people want to change Europe into a multicultural socialist union others want individual sovereignty and keeping of centuries old traditions.

Yes Europe will change within our lifetimes. You will gradually see Muslims and Africans increase their population because of their extremely high birthrates. Combine this with race mixing and a low birth rate for native Europeans and you have a total change in demographics coming. In Marseilles the population is already half Muslim and Arabic is the most common language. Parents and children state that classrooms are now filled with mostlt Muslim children especially in areas like the exclusionary zones (aka no go zones). Furthermore budgets will suffer because so many of these new migrants live off government aid and will soon realize that they can live off that plus with more kids, more money hence further changing demographics. All these little things will lead to anvasy increase. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 15 20 years the msulism population doubles in Germany France and Sweden

Poland I dont think will follow this same trajectory. Although birthrates are low, the population remains almost entirely Polish and Roman Catholic. There will certainly be more Ukrainians around as rhe million or so will have children. Regardless of whether po or pis are in charge you won't see a Muslim deluge (aside from the trickle of Chechens that are allowed in and tend to assimilate). Even when the more liberal po was in charge they only agreed to gradually accept I believe a thousand or few thousand - in either case a small token number. People were really upset at pos decision and many people demonstrated against taking in refugees. The 'refugees are welcome here' camp is very small.

jon357
12 May 2017  #3171

some people want to change Europe

It changes anyway.

keeping of centuries old traditions.

Which largely existed in theory rather than in practice.

race mixing

A meaningless term.

Dirk diggler
12 May 2017  #3172

By century old traditions I am referring to traditional male/female marraiges, the catholic church, etc. Those aren't just theories. Nonetheless in western European places traditions which use to be celebrated are sharply declining as a different ideology takes hold - namely a rather far leftist one.

What do you mean by race mixing is a meaningless term? Race mixing will certainly impact the native European population as foreigners and natives intermarry. The same thing happened when Spain colonized Mexico - that's a perfect example of race mixing. Well the conquistadors gradually were able to wipe out the Mayans Inca etc. What is happening in wester. Europe is very similar - the natives welcoming the conquistadors only to later have their population enslaved, killed off, and all their gold plundered.

Since the dawn of time, in warfare the victors would take the defeated party's women, money, and make them subservient to their wishes. The migrants have assaulted European women, drain coffers due to Mediterranean patrols, rescues and more importantly government aid, and the natives are being subservient to them so as not to appear like Nazis/fascists/racists or any other term that an individual is called for disagreed with immigration policy.

jon357
12 May 2017  #3173

traditional male/female marraiges

They're still available to those who want.

conquistadors gradually were able to wipe out the Mayans Inca etc.

You're confusing culture and wealth with 'race'. Sloppy thinking.

the victors would take the defeated party's women, money, and make them subservient to their wishes

In the past, and cynical to assume decent liberal democracy is as weak as you pretend.

Read Terry Eagleton on the issue. He can be annoyingly outspoken at times, however his analysis fits Poland and the increasing diversity here and in the rest of Europe particularly aptly.

nothanks
12 May 2017  #3174

Jon, do you see the irony in you preaching for us to import the 3rd World in order to "solve the birth rate problem" but yet you applaud homosexuality and abortions.

Many parts of the West have gone beyond turning the other cheek to degenerate behavior. It is now encouraged and even judged if you don't I.E. "what do you mean you've never dated a black? Then you must be racist". Every white girl must date out of race at-least once otherwise she is missing out/destined to be racist.

nothanks
12 May 2017  #3175

And obviously the bisexual stuff is just plain to see. "How do you know for sure you aren't gay if you've never experimented"

Polonius3
12 May 2017  #3176

increasing diversity

More precisely -- increasing degeneracy, increasingly disrupted families, more and more troubled children bereft of a normal, happy childhood and increasignly disturbed and unstable inter-personal relations. That is what those of jon's ilk want not only for themselves but are trying to force it down everyone's throats as well. Not at gunpoint (at least not yet), but for instance through the mega-manipulatioin the entertainment media use to popularise cultural Marxism. The average person is helpless against the all-pervasive propaganda and social engineering, against those playing the racist, sexist and homophobe card and using every manner of pressure, intimidation, threat and blackmail to achieve their sinister objectives. No, still not at gunpoint, but already sackings, demotions and black-balling are used to support the spread of degeneracy. So be on your guard. When you hear multi-culti, diversity, patchwork families or cosmopolitanism being glorified, it is probably someone wanting to stand everything on its head, dismantle normal society and destroy normal human relations. But they will sugar-coat their nefarious aims with high-soiunding euphemisms designed to deceive and delude.

Polonius3
12 May 2017  #3177

settle and live in Poland

Don't play the fool. The migrant hordes do not want to coem to Central-East Europe and you know it. Thre 90,000 Chechen war refugees Poland accepted years ago soon left the country for more genrous hand-out states.

And you (conveniently?) neglected to explain what's up with PO and Schetyna. Is "we do not want them to come" the new PO refugee policy?

Crow
12 May 2017  #3178

I don`t know why Anglos and Germanics upset Eastern and Central Europeans with their sick ways. Why upset Slavs? They should experiment on Mormons and force them to change. After all, they should upset their own mothers and fathers. While no problem for their sisters who got Arabs to upset them.

Atch
12 May 2017  #3179

Well the conquistadors gradually were able to wipe out the Mayans Inca etc.

The Mayan people still exist as indeed do the Inca. As Jon said you're confusing the race with the civilisation. Also the Inca were Peruvian, not Mexican. Apart from the top Spanish military brass taking a few royal Inca women as wives, there's nothing to suggest to suggest that the Inca were wiped out by race mixing. Their descendants live in the Andes now and there are even several descdendants of the royal family still living who bear royal Inca surnames.

Ziemowit
12 May 2017  #3180

increasingly disrupted families, more and more troubled children bereft of a normal, happy childhood and increasignly disturbed and unstable inter-personal relations.

Disrupted families, troubled children and unstable inter-personal relations can be observed quite often in Poland which is basically a homogenous, single-religion country. I'm not sure about the so-called "rotten" West in the 1950s or 1960s when the West was far less multi-culti than now, but I guess these were pretty common there, too. So I think you are completely wrong in attributing such sins to a mult-culti society only. The real problems is that our norms and standards are substantially different than theirs and that causes tension and trouble.

So have the Europeans in the "rotten" West decided to give in then? The novel "Soumission" by the Frech writer Michel Houllebecq clearly suggests this. And so do perhaps the examples given in this thread:

"what do you mean you've never dated a black? Then you must be racist"

"How do you know for sure you aren't gay if you've never experimented"

If these are true, this is quite embarrasing. In a way, such questions can be easily transformed into: How do you know for sure you aren't a killer, if you've never murdered anyone? And this would surely sound very alarming. If people start to feel embarrased with this kind of questions, it will be be a good sign that a major shift in culture and civilisation is taking place. But it is not very likely that a Muslim civilisation is slowly imposing itself on the Western world. It is more likely that a new kind of European civilisation is emerging and we are observing the first signs of this. Change is inevitable in the human world, but only God (or Michel Houllebecq) knows what path it will take.


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