Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

That's a very good point Ziemowit. All great civilisations have their decline and fall. I personally think that Western cvilisation reached its peak in the Victorian era when the fruits of the industrial revolution resulted in enormous change in the lives of ordinary people, social reform, medical, scientific and technological advances. We're on our way out now, there will be a period of chaos and instability, then a new society will emerge. Have to say I'm glad I'll be watching from a nice fluffy cloud - hopefully!

That is obvious. The main thing is to do everything possible so it changes for the better rather than degenrerating. That people become wiser, nobler, more altruistic, devoted to their families, loyal to their countries, patriotic, moral and decent. It's the wreckers, those trying to steer people in the opposite decadent direction towards "anything goes", that's the problem.

There really is no such thing Po. You're looking for a bogeyman, just as some demonise people with darker skin.


Very much so, Atch. It's an odd comparison - the population numbers were tiny (there are probably more Inca descendants today than there were Inca before), the Inca culture that fascinates people today refers only to their ruling class (most were extremely poor subsistence farmers, much as some of their descendants are now) and they, like most people who'd never come into contact with Eurasian culture were vulnerable to infectious diseases.

If Poland's culture is so threatened by migration, it can't be a very robust culture, can it...

Yes, it's a very silly idea that somehow white people will become extinct by inter-racial mixing. It's just nonense. I mean for God's sake we all originate from the African continent and were brown to begin with! Anyone who doubts that just has to look at frizzy hair. Lots of pasty faced Irish people suffer terribly with the frizzies. My own father would have looked like one of the Jackson Five if he didn't keep his hair cut very short :D

you contradict yourself in the scope of two sentences - either the white race survives or we will all be brown (as you claim was the state before)

Everybody is the same colour eventually.

Yes, just some to be re-Slavicized and everything is perfect.

by the way if all people are brown where is the diversity you so claim to want - let them also all speak English and share the same culture - one-culture multiculturalism, he?

Going into denial doens't work because more and more people can put two and two together. The culture war is very real and is taking place before our very eyes. Those waging it against traditional time-honoured values always break it up into little, seemingly innocuous pieces, making small chinks in the whole, gradually accustoiming people to decadence and degeneration. Naturally, they don't call it that but roll out a a cartload of prettified, sugar-coated labels such as as civil rights, human rights, marriage equality, diversity, enhanced democracy, multi-culturalism, globalism, cosmopolitanism. Only the very primitive and intellectually deficient do not see that we are dealing with a culture-war conglomerate seeking to turn everything on its head.

God doesn't know what path humankind will take, and it's because human beings have free will


I don't what you mean - are you against human rights per se or some other thing

True, and God is omniscient.

That`s the beauty of Slavic world. Enough of internal diversity. Really.

God knows your every thought yes - but only now - God does not know your future because you can change your ways, free will you know

No it isn't.


Pretty important.

And nothing, whatsoever, to do with Poland's obligation to participate in EU affairs.

You must be a great fan of the Kremlin's Lavrov who could give even PF's LL a run for his money. Little green men. - No such thing. Russian aggression against Ukraine! - No such thing! Hackers threatening eastern Europe's energy grids. -

No such thing, etc., etvc. ad nauseam.

He's closer in outlook and behaviour to the PiS junta.

Interesting what role Russia have in whipping up xenophobic hysteri regarding refugees.

But closer in tactics, technique and approach to errant culture warrior lower-case357!

and back to the topic......

I fully support Poland's stance on refugees/migrants.

As someone else has rightly pointed out-the people who believe in tolerance, equality of sexes and respecting others regardless of creed or sexual orientation cannot see the irony in their own comments. Supporting a multi-cultural society (let's face it-we're really talking duo-cultural...non-muslim and muslim) contradicts the very ideals they are trying to defend.

Let's show our tolerance by inviting people into our country who are intolerant, misogynistic and homophobic.

Now Po. You're simply seeking to,distract from the obligations which come together with the benefits and privileges of EU membership. Namely that if Poland wants the money, it has to share in the effort.

The point is Gummy that once upon a time we were all more or less the same colour and then white people evolved as a result of not needing to have brown skin in the less sunny northern climes. Despite the white race then spreading out all over the world and colonising the brown skinned people, those brown people still exist and even those of mixed race usually choose to identify with one race or the other. Many Americans with mixed race heritage identify as white. Skin colour is not really the issue. As Ziemowit said it's cultural norms, values etc. If a group of people can live together and share the same norms, or at least accept each others differences, then it doesn't matter what colour their skin is and if they can't, then again being the same colour won't help. Look at the North of Ireland where white people, both of Christian denominations with many shared cultural norms couldn't co-exist peacefully and are still struggling to maintain a fragile peace.


Where did I claim that I wanted diversity? I have very mixed views on that. Take Poles in Ireland. White and Catholic they may be but they're not Irish and they now comprise about 3% of the population. We're more in danger of being over-run by Poles than by Muslims! (We only have about 1% Muslims, if that). I feel distinctly uncomfortable when the Polish minster for education says that he wants the Polish language taught in Irish primary schools (it's already available in secondary schools where possible). Then a few months later Beata Whats-it says the same thing. Poles have been very much welcomed in Ireland but our own native language should be the priority in primary school.

The EU should pay for the exit visas which Poland will have to issue almost immediately to the Muslim hordes that consider Poland only a rest stop on the road to benefit-rich Deutschland and a few other sucker countries. MUSLIM MIGRANTS DO NOT WANT TO COME TO POLAND FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN TRANSIT! Preferwably rapid transit! One wonders how one of PF's consummate culture warriors will explain that away. Why not pull another Lavrov! Works for him!

Nope. Wrong again, Po. The system doesn't work like that.


The community is steadily increasing in size, and the only disharmony in Poland has been caused by racists.

Good point, but why have you Irish capitualted to your age-old Anglo-enemy and done such a p*ss-poor job propagating your native tongue? Look at Israel!

the point is when we all thouroughly mix together we will all be brown - and I presume you have nothing against it - yet you claim the white race will somehow survive

So you are saying Poland is the preferred final destination for many or most Muslim migrants?

hahahaha
just wonder ,why those bad white colonists didn't turn brown,since according to your theory,peoples skin colour is determined by level of sun exposure(geographic location)

or why blacks and whites didn't turn into Indians in america?
lol.

Those that lecture Poles that themselves have been and continue to be immirgants but do not want their country to accept Muslim migrants are using fallacious reasoning. There are migrants that act like the man who came to dinner and stayed, except that they actually try to take over and evict the home-owners. Polish immirgants by and large try to preserve their heritage but do not force it down anyone's throat. They never say we sh*t on your law, as we observe only Polish law based on the Napoleonic code. They do not force state schools of serve Polish foods in their lunch rooms. They do not stage protests over everything knowing they are in a foreign country. And everyone is welcome in a Polish neighbourhood and police are not afraid to patrol it. So, yes, there is a difference between the toxic, intrusive Muslim hordes and East European immigrants.

even more,
same people who cherish multiculti diversity are disgusted when hearing that polish kids want to learn polish language in their country.am confused

Migrants actually. Immigrants are those subject to immigration control, while migrants are not. EU citizens have the right to live in Poland, while citizens of countries such as the USA do not. But I'd best not mention anybody here other than myself, there are supposedly bans handed out to those who discuss other people's personal details here.


I suppose the most obvious difference is that one struggles to name even a single Muslim immigrant in Poland who has been banged up here for rape and/or murder while there's no shortage at all of Poles who have migrated to the UK and committed rape and/or murder there. But we really shouldn't judge the vast majority on the basis of the actions of the tiny minority.

Oh Polly, I've already explained that to you on more than one occasion. If you're that interested you'll have to research it yourself. Here's a nice starter for you, the music at the beginning is a bit noisy and might put you off but it's a very good, intelligent programme and the presenter is a young Irish man who grew up speaking Irish at home, so he's the real deal:

youtube.com/watch?v=eyll-bBZzyk
It's partly because Irish had to be taught essentially as a foreign language and the teaching methods adopted were the same highly ineffectual methods used to to teach other foreign languages.


Missy dear (missy because of you're misogyny which has been well established on previous occasions), I know you're as daft as a brush but human evolution occurred over a very, very, very, very long time and our skin changed colour over the course of many thousands of years and colonisation has been going on only over the last few hundred years. Here's a simple explanation for you. Maybe you can [

get a grown-up to read it to you while you chew on your rusk.

sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin
quote=Polonius3]. Polish immirgants by and large try to preserve their heritage but do not force it down anyone's throat.[/quote]
When two Polish government ministers apply pressure on a foreign government to change their national curriculum to reflect Polish culture then I would say there is an element of forcing there and certainly great cultural insensitivity in a country struggling to re-establish its own language.


But why are you assuming we'll all mix together?? And anyway Gummy not every European is that white. Plenty of brown ones and even Poles are quite sallow,many go a very dark brown in the summer, even the fair haired ones.