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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



mafketis
14 May 2017  #3271

improving what was once the host culture

An improvement from the Netherlands? Attacking disabled people?

as people marry outside their family's ethnicity more and more

Muslims in Europe do not do this, as the largest non-european migrant group this kind of spoils your happy little fantasy.

spiritus
14 May 2017  #3272

Muslims in Europe do not do this, as the largest non-european migrant group this kind of spoils your happy little fantasy.

Jon357 doesn't deal in facts so your point in terms of this debate is irrelevant :)

Polonius3
14 May 2017  #3273

people marry outside their family's ethnicity

jon is a big fan of racial mixing, undermining the traditonal family, disrupting time-honoured socio-cultural norms. Little boys should be dressed in pinafores and told to play with dolls, while little girls should climb trees, shoot sling-shots and play with toy soldiers. That's to avoid "gender strereotyping" and prepare kids for when they decide what gender they want to be. The more disruption, chaos and confusion - the better!

Bristols
14 May 2017  #3274

If you found yourself in a society where female circumcision was the norm, would you rush out and have it done to your pubescdent daughter

You say people should follow the host culture

Polonius3
15 May 2017  #3275

I was not advising anyone to do anything but expressing the idea that assimilation should not mean total acceptance of everything in the host culture, no matter how extreme. If someone lands in a country whose laws or norms require an immigrant to convert to Islam "or else" and he/she finds that unacceptable, they would do well to steer clear of such a society.

mafketis
15 May 2017  #3276

And they might express some reluctance about brining a bunch of those people to their own country.... because they're not going to stop thinking of non-Muslims as filthy degenerates just because they're financially dependent on them...

dolnoslask
15 May 2017  #3277

This is what Merkel and the EU wish to foist upon Poland, no wonder Germany wants to move them on to other unsuspecting countries.

Migrant teenager 'cut off fellow asylum seeker's eyelids, stabbed him in both eyes and bit off his ears over a €50 debt' German court hears

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4506736/Teen-cut-victim-s-eyelids-bit-ears.html#ixzz4h9WPlGBT

Harry
15 May 2017  #3278

This is what

Would you like us to link to some of the sickening crimes committed by Poles in the UK (such as burying girlfriend alive, stamping on spouse's head until he died, starving a child to death, etc etc etc) and then claim that those cases mean that all Poles in the UK should be deported and no Pole should ever be allowed to set foot in the UK again? Or would it be better to simply accept that some people from every group are disgusting people?

mafketis
15 May 2017  #3279

It would be better still to accept that different human groups produce different percentages of disgusting violent people...

young men are more violent than any other demographic

migrants (not refugees) are disproportionately young men

they are kept in check in their home cultures by structures that are missing in Europe (which also provides them with sensory overload their upbringing has not prepared them for).

express.co.uk/news/world/643129/Algerian-sex-attack-rape-Allah-wills-it-German-student

dolnoslask
15 May 2017  #3280

they are kept in check in their home cultures by structures that are missing

Exactly

nothanks
15 May 2017  #3281

Harry, the "we are all just equal humans" is simply the other side of the coin "they are all evil"

Data and statistics exist. Mafk is spot on with his assessment

mafketis
15 May 2017  #3282

"we are all just equal humans" is simply the other side of the coin "they are all evil"

Yep. Differences exist and not acknowledging that is every bit as dangerous as over-emphasizing it is.

spiritus
15 May 2017  #3283

This is so true.

It's somewhat amusing that some people believe that we are all one big happy family. Reminds me of the naivety from the 1970/80's tv commercial for Coca Cola with people singing "we'd like to teach the world to sing....." A nice ideal but naďve to the extreme.

And I will ask the question again. How do some of the self appointed liberals on this board square the fact that by boasting of their tolerance for all races and creeds they are welcoming a creed of people who are very intolerant against homosexuals, Jews and women (to name but a few).

Crnogorac3
15 May 2017  #3284

This is what Merkel and the EU wish to foist upon Poland, no wonder Germany wants to move them on to other unsuspecting countries.


Imagine if tens of thousands of such migrants were wandering and roaming freely around Polish cities...

youtube.com/watch?v=SJ0CfOi4tYM

Illegal immigrants in Hungary, 230 km from Budapest

One more example of these savages:
rt.com/news/329411-denmark-clubs-refugees-ban/
ISIS under the cover of immigration - a Trojan horse for Europe

Did you ever wonder how is it that people - who flee their country because of poverty and in search of a better life - are very well-fed, are wearing Nike or Adidas shoes, branded clothes, expensive mobile phones and its not a problem for them to pay smugglers up to 5 to 6 thousand euros for transport.

How is it that this mass immigration is happening right now, at the time of the "new" world enemy under the auspices of ISIS?

dailystormer/isis-openly-states-plan-to-use-immigration-to-conquer-europe/

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3151326/ISIS-terrorists-arriving-Europe-hidden-migrants- crossing-Mediterranean-boats-warns-EU-s-prosecutor.html

Russian secret services and professionals across Europe and the United States have warned for months that the risk of such a scenario is very serious, but also about this they are clearly being silent and the governments across Europe remain blind and deaf. As if they are doing it by the book.

youtube.com/watch?v=i1ZKl0gKd04

Italian news reporter gets enriched by African migrants.

youtube.com/watch?v=YfIkiny_O14

Interviews with Angry Italians About Islam, Muslims and Immigration

It is only a matter of time when they will be armed and massively activated by their "unknown" masters. Then will arise a real mess, Europe will turn into a slaughterhouse. Of course, all governments are deeply silent about it as well as all public media. All this is planned professionally and systematically.

Will Europe also suffer the fate of Troy?

Do not wait like sheep before the slaughter! Prepare, organize and spread this until it's too late!

Lyzko
15 May 2017  #3285

Merkel just won a series of local county-wide elections yesterday in among other places, North-Rhine Westphalia (the most densely populated German state), so looks like Petry, Hoecke and the far right have suffered a bit of a setback, don't you think?

jon357
15 May 2017  #3286

Great news.

Lyzko
15 May 2017  #3287

Great news for somebody, I guess:-) Sadly, I know of lotsa folks who are fuming right now!

Crnogorac3
15 May 2017  #3288

What's that game that Muslims like to play with girls?

youtube.com/watch?v=aMRq1iun3is

It does not say in vain "only an armed man is a free man"... just pacifist liberal scum do not see it.

Lyzko
16 May 2017  #3289

Therefore a one-armed man is a vassal rather than merely a serf? Seems the length of one's freedom might well be conditioned upon the presence of his extremitiesLOL

:-)

Polonius3
16 May 2017  #3290

sickening crimes committed by Poles

"Dumb and lazy" seems more and more to be a most apt description. Anyway, violent acts can and do occur in every community. But only a fool or someone intent on deriding his host country at idealising the verminous Muslim hordes at all costs would dream of comparing individual, usually drunken acts of violence with mass terror attacks targeting innocent strangers. How many crowds were ploughed into by a Pole in a speeding lorry? How many multi-victim bombs have been attributed to Poles in the UK or anywhere else?

Anti-Polish trolling and baiting are the only contributions of some FP posters who have never said a good thing about a nation that gave them safe haven -- everything is inferior, crappy, seedy and just begging for a shot of superior "progressive" Anglo-culture.

PF by and large is a forum for people who like Poland, Poles and things Polish in general, but there is always the exception to prove the rule.

spiritus
16 May 2017  #3291

@jon357
How can you be so tolerant to a creed of people who are very intolerant against homosexuals, Jews and women (to name but a few). ?

Crow
16 May 2017  #3292

Ah, maximum what EU can do to Poland now is petting.

mafketis
16 May 2017  #3293

How can you be so tolerant to a creed of people who are very intolerant against homosexuals, Jews and women (to name but a few). ?

Indeed...

Polonius3
16 May 2017  #3294

against homosexuals, Jews and women

That's why they're called libtards and brainless leftist scum. Freud would probably say it is some kind of subconscious death wish. It also contains a faint echo of Lenin's (or was it Marx's) saying that "capitalists will sell us the rope on which he will hang them." The only difference is that now it involves not sales but thoughtless advocacy of an ill-fated future.

jon357
16 May 2017  #3295

creed of people who are very intolerant against homosexuals, Jews and women

Like the Polish government or the Catholic church?

mafketis
16 May 2017  #3296

Please let us know when the Polish government or Catholic church last threw gay men off of buildings (or hung them in public)?

Timing matters, theocratic violence against gay men and lesbians is not supported by either the catholic church or Polish government. It is, however, an ongoing practice in many muslim majority countries.

jon357
16 May 2017  #3297

Nor does Islam, just right-wing authoritarians. The RCC church at least is reigned in by secularism.

Ziemowit
16 May 2017  #3298

North-Rhine Westphalia (the most densely populated German state), so looks like Petry, Hoecke and the far right have suffered a bit of a setback, don't you think?

The party that has suffered the greatest setback in the NRW's election was undoubtedly SPD, however. And that even despite the presence of their star, Martin Schulz, who is very much hoping to become a new Bundeskanzler in this year's general election. SPD which has formed the local government in diesem Land until now has just been sent to opposition.now. Die Linke party hasn't got much support either

Anyway, it is pretty hard to imagine Herr Schulz taking over Frau Merkel in the coming election since even foreign politicians fiercely criticizing her immigration policy such as First Secretary Jarosław Kaczyński say they would choose her rather than anyone else if given the opportunity to vote in Germany.

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Btw, is 'Westphalia' the English name for 'Westfalen'?

jon357
16 May 2017  #3299

Btw, is 'Westphalia' the English name for 'Westfalen'?

Yes.

r Frau Merkel

Very popular, strong power-base. Also Europe's pre-eminent politician. She and Macron together will have huge influence over the next few years.

mafketis
16 May 2017  #3300

Nor does Islam, just right-wing authoritarians.

Computer says..... you're wrong.

islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=92314

islamqa.info/en/38622

al-islam.org/greater-sins-volume-1-ayatullah-sayyid-abdul-husayn-dastghaib-shirazi/eleventh-greater-sin-sodomy

Please cite your sources for knowing that Islam does not espouse capital punishment for homosexuality or admit your'e wrong.


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