Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

So did the RCC until liberal secularism stopped them.

Millions of people in Western Europe who identify as Muslim hasn't caused the re-introduction of capital punishment and nor will it, despite your Islamophobia.

Hard to know why the things someone dislikes about a culture could impact on immigration policy anyway.

See? your first reaction is to try to redirect away from the issue at hand (you are wrong about an aspect of islamic belief)


This is _exactly_ the same thinking that caused the worldwide economic crisis in 2008 (in short: thinking recent past behavior will continue despite fundamental changes to the conditions bringing about that behaivor).


A meaningless insult that doesn't work. Either support your arguments, find data that undermines my arguments or.... admit I'm right.

my arguments:

a: public acceptance of homosexuality is _far_ less among mulsims than westerners (even Poles)

b: living in Europe does not change a

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/poll-finds-more-than-half-of-britsih-muslims-believe-homosexuality-should-be-illegal-a6978091.html

that should be "non-muslims"


because peoples' values don't change just because they've crossed a border.... if you moved to Iran would you start thinking that only indecent women don't cover their hair in public?

Individual cultural values fortunately do not change the law in a secular state.


Only ones who don't mind sunstroke.

Heard of any Polish or Cattolic decapitations lately? Or terror attacks? In recent times only your hare-brained Ulster-Scots compatriots did stuff like that and called themselves Christians!

If they become the najority.... there will be no more secular state. Please name soime majority muslim countries that have become more secular in the last 30 years...


So you agree that this shameless hussy should be punished?

euronews.com/2017/04/27/iranian-footballer-banned-from-national-team-for-playing-abroad-without-hijab

No suggestion that a. Poland is likely to become majority Muslim, or b. that Islam would be the same by that stage anyway.

Why do you think that Poland might become less rather than more secular?

Of course not, but what particular tangible benefits (beyond food) would accrue from creating a visible muslim minority?


hope is not a plan or a sound basis for policy....

Why would "particular tangible benefits" be an issue? The age of colonialism and exploitation is ending.

So.... you're admitting there are none or that benefits to the host nation are irrelevant to your preferred immigration policy. Duly noted.


When was Poland an exploitive colonial power again? I seem to have missed that part....

There are always benefits to an influx of people.


Don't be silly.


You never wanted to look.

Yet you Liberals claim man made climate change do to population, the world has an unsustainable population, and promote abortion.
There is also many detriments to an influx of un vetted people as we will soon see the horrible end results of it in Europe.

Indeed. You however confuse population movement with population increase.

Such as....... name a few benefits of an influx of people who follow a culturally alien religion and who can't/won't eat the normal diet of the new country or follow its social conventions...


Didn't figure there'd be much to find...

Scraping the barrel, Maf.

In Europe people are free to follow whatever belief system they choose, and free to eat what they like as well.

At home, yes, but a bunch of people with radically different ideas about acceptable relations between people leads to a lack of integration which leads to lower social trust and weaker societies... (also muslims have a track record of trying to force others to follow their beliefs in public spaces).

Shouldn't citizens have a say in who (and how many) people are let into a country under what conditions?

Why do you think absolute 'integration' is necessary. People are individuals.


Polish citizens did, when they voted to enter the EU, and voted to accept all that entails.

Second request Jon ? Care to answer this question rather than answer it with another question ? I am genuinely curious as to your reasoning.

I'm pretty sure that accepting thousands of completely non-vetted migrants was on the table in 2004 (if it was it was carefully kept form public debate because that might have affected the referendum results).

Your preferred policies are already driving one country out of the EU how many more do you want to try for?


I had given up but yeah he never has answered that beyond denial and ignoring.... and pretending that every school of Islamic jurisprudence and Muslim theologians somehow don't mean what they very clearly and openly say (and practice).

What would happen after June, when Poland and Hungary refuse?

How do you imagine European society will otherwise manage an aging population?


Plenty of that already. And BTW, life in the middle east isnt quite what you seem to 'think'.

herd em woman to kitchen,ban abortions

Gregy, that isn't a solution either, of course! Sadly, each country will simply have to accept the fact that owing to economic necessity, fewer and fewer young people are having children, therefore, more and more people are left to grown older with nobody to "replace" them, so to speak.

Or indeed cook, clean, lift them off the floor and change their continence pads. I don't see a rush of people from an increasingly educated, affluent (and smaller) indigenous culture rushing to dor care work.

ohhh,now i see what you mean.
so,we will replace Europeans with dumb and violent mob,so they will destroy economy and any health system,which in return will cause early death of eldery thus improving ageing problem of Europe.

yeaaaaa..lets fuk up everything and turn Europe into Africa shithole. genius
some ebola and malaria would be helpful as well
but seriously,you heard that story from la strada daily,thanking africans for bringing diseases,so europeans have now better immune system...leftist idiots cant beat that

Well buddy, that too will have to change, as an ever increasing number of ethnic French, Germans, Dutch, and Swedes are gonna havta git their hands dirty and smelly on occasion if we're ever to abandon this notion that only little brown people are fit for the D.D.D. (3-D jobs, Difficult, Dangerous, Dirty) work, whilst their taller Nordic brethren have been elected as those who administrate, direct or control everybody else!!!

Perhaps if they gave you a job in the HR dept. Other people are likely to be that bit choosier about who they hire.


Do tell.

You've got some low opinion of Africa, gregy!!! Although I've never been, Nairobi, Kenya may well have one of the best infrastructures on the Continent, rivaling even smaller European capitals, I've read:-)

build by Chinese with UN money.