Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Despite repeated efforts by President Trump to curtail refugee resettlements, the State Department this week quietly lifted the department's restriction on the number of refugees allowed to enter the United States.

The result could be a near doubling of refugees entering the country, from about 830 people a week in the first three weeks of this month to well over 1,500 people per week by next month, according to refugee advocates.

America is now kicking out the Mexican Latino Christians and welcoming the Syrian Muslims Islamists.
Yet America makes it almost impossible for a Christian Polish person from Poland to migrate to America who already knows our language.

It's called "Failing upwards" wrecking their own countries and then getting new chances to try to wreck newer, better countries....

Not a chance.

This article states that there were some 295 syrians in 2015 in Poland. It does state that chechens are the largest group claiming asylum. It also notes according to cbos that the majority of poles don't want refugees from war torn countries //euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/134447

Personally id be okay with a small amount of syrians and Iraqis - especially the Christian as they're often targeted first by the extremists and really have it rough now in their native homes. Whether Christian Muslim or flying spaghetti monster worshipping idc as long as the migrants that are taken in have been vetted, provided some basic services like pointed in the right direction to say polish language lessons or an employment agency, and that they assimilate and are a net benefit to the country I.e. paying taxes.

There's I believe 30k lipka tatars who have been in the country for centuries. They've defended poland many times throughout all the wars and partitions. Those are the kind of people id want in Poland. Not ones that blow up citizens or march down streets with Sharia 4 UK/Belgium/etc signs or ones that say we don't want democracy just Islam.

there is a private (or church) foundation, can't remember the name now - they brought like 50 Syrian christian families to Poland - in most cases those poeple vanished just a couple of days since arriving in Poland - they presumably fled for Germany - only a handful remained in Poland

just looked it up the foundation is called Estera

Yes I've read a few reports stating that the migrants who were resettled in Poland or czechy that roughly half will assimilate in the home country and the other half will move westward once they have enough cash and such.

There is a story about I believe an Iraqi family that settled and remained in Poland. I believe the father works for lot. That is one of the more positive stories you hear about migrants in Poland as usuallt the media portrays this in a negative light drawing on peoples fears.

Poland isn't the easiest place for a migrant from the middle east. They'd have it far easier in Sweden or Germany so I don't really blame them for not staying. I think poland gives them around like 50 or 80 euro or some really low sum per month basically enough for a person not to starve but no money for anything else. In Germany they get apartments and much more of a social safety net. In poland a migrant really has to work hard and assimilate just to have a middle class existence and even that's really difficult. On top of it they have to deal with stares and a bit of xenophobia whereas in Germany they could simply live in an area that's majority Muslim and can manage a middle class existence without all the things they'd have to do in Poland like learning the language, working, etc. Some migrants really take the opportunity to assimilate and take advantage of the opportunities available while others will isolate and interact only with others of the same nationality and religion. Its kind of like in the us - a Latino migrant could easily make a middle class existence without learning english, working a formal job (most work cash jobs like landscaping or construction that offer no social safety net), or interacting much with English speaking Americans.

Merkel gets a reality check at the G7...............
Even with Merkel's choice on how to ruin the E.U. she will most likely get elected again.
As unpopular as she is for one of the biggest blunders in history by inviting terrorists into the E.U., Poland has had enough of her dictating what Poland should do as a result of it.

Poland has NOTHING to gain from these (not refugees but invading economic immigrants) Muslims and everything to lose.
Merkel is losing all credibility and support from all of her allies.
Merkel warned that the U.S. and Britian were no longer reliable allies after being snubbed at the G7.
Merkel says Europe must fight for its own destiny in a western alliance divided by Brexit and the presidency of Donald Trump, with whom she did not see eye to eye at the "six against one" G7 summit and Germany was the one.

One would think the Queen of the E.U. might start owning up to her blunder and not expect the rest of the E.U. to suffer anymore then they already have.

Merkel wasn't quite as popular at the G7 as she thought she was going to be.

One would think the Germans would be smart enough to vote her out.


It would help to admit a mistake were all human, but not her, nope not her fault!


She's a buffoon, a totally incompetent failed leader. She doesn't deserve any respect from the other members.

LOL!

To paraphrase the late, distinguished, and honorable son of Poland, Prof. Zbigniew Brzeziński, when he put a blathering American media talking head in his place, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what is going on in Poland and Europe that it's embarrassing to listen to you!

Poland certainly demonstrated its lead, importance, and influence on this very issue this past week at the latest G7 summit where it was agreed by all members that the refugees would be helped back in their native lands:


Source: thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/308989,G7-agrees-on-migration-refugees-and-Russia

Hear! Hear!

President Duda has been absolutely right.

So should anyone be surprised that a deluded leftist like yourself would also be a human rights violator? No. I know I'm not. History shows time and again across every continent that leftist like you despite all your propaganda spewed to the contrary actually regard human life as completely expendable. From on-demand abortion clinics to gulags to illegal, costly and deadly human trafficking of migrants into the EU and North America. All that matters to the left is ideology and the party to enforce its inhumane docrtrines. For the left the end always justifies the means.


Like a lot of Western countries being crushed and crippled under the yoke of neoliberalism it's all about party loyalty and personality cults rather than what is actually good and in the long term interests of the nation and the future of its native population. And of course the leftist media is on hand to attack anyone who dares question the PC narrative. So unfortunately there are now enough cowed and cuckold idiots in Germany to keep that cultural marxist in office for yet another term and they will; just so they can say their party leader ruled the longest even if it means the death of their traditional heritage and cultural identity.

The cost of being politicly correct has NO bounds.


Normal people are beginning to understand about the liberal fake news media machine and not believing them anymore, except for the PC fools that follow them.


Trump should have told her, pay your NATO bill or be kicked out!

It's far too soon to say that as visa free travel has only just been granted. It would be truer to say that 'up till now' that has been the case. A picture will emerge within two years or so when the various EU states have been able to gather statistics.

However if they show a preference for Poland, I would say there's two reasons for that. One is the language. The languages being related to each other it's possible for a Ukrainian person to manage day to day basics in the beginning and to become proficient in Polish much quicker than they could in French or Danish or even English. Secondly Poland is their next door neighbour, it's geographically not too far, it's affordable to get there and it's possible to go 'home' cheaply from time to time to see family etc.


And by the same token you could say that if a Polish family wanted to get to England between 1990 and 2004, they could have but they didn't, not in significant numbers. The huge influx of Polish economic migrants occurred when it was made easier and restrictions were lifted. The fact that many of them didn't have a word of English didn't deter them either.

The probem is that probably the German people's only real alternative is an ultra-mega-super cultural marxist named Schultz.

Merkel has gone bonkers. She said that Trump is against Europe.

latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-europe-20170527-story.html

Trump isn't against Europe, Trump is just sick and tired of paying and sacrificing for Europe's safety and freedom.
Cheap stards aren't ponying up to their fair share (that they agreed to) and have been milking America.
Trump just gave them a reality check saying that the free ride is over.
We'll soon see which NATO allies are really NATO allies when war breaks out with North Korea.
(What do you Europ's be hearing about this inevitable war that most likely will go nuclear any day now ?)
One of the most populated cities in the world (Soul South Korea with over 10 million people, 17,000 per square kilometer) will be having a huge number of refugees unless pajama boy just nuke's them like he has threatened to do.

How many of these refugee's will Merkel welcome into the EU ?

You must understand frau Merkel. She and German circles around her made a deal with Clinton`s & Co. (plus friendly circles from UK and France) and with Islamic league. They moved to re-arrange world. Then, some other circles managed to respond and offer opposition. Here goes the Trump. Now, frau Merkel and some others got a nervous breakdown. But imagine just how frustrated feels Islamic league. See?

The Brusselcrats, Tusk, Merkel who made him and his Katyń hugging buddy Putin are the bad guys. Trump, Orbán, May and Kaczyński are the good guys. Rest assured, lower-case, his guru and other hyPOcrites will have it all a*se-backwards!

Only 5 out of the 28 countries pay their far share.

Here's a breakdown of each country's contribution, based on 2016 figures provided by NATO:

United States, 3.61%.
Greece, 2.38%.
Britain, 2.21%.
Estonia, 2.16%.
Poland, 2%.
France, 1.78%.
Turkey, 1.56%.
Norway, 1.54%.
Lithuania, 1.49%.
Romania, 1.48%.
Latvia, 1.45%.
Portugal, 1.38%.
Bulgaria, 1.35%.
Croatia, 1.23%.
Albania, 1.21%.
Germany, 1.19%.
Denmark, 1.17%.
Netherlands, 1.17%.
Slovakia, 1.16%.
Italy, 1.11%.
Czech Republic, 1.04%.
Hungary, 1.01%.
Canada, 0.99%.
Slovenia, 0.94%.
Spain, 0.91%.
Belgium, 0.85%.
Luxembourg, 0.44%.


Trump is right NATO is obsolete! Let the Germans deal with Russia, it worked out well for them in the past... LoL

Its not fair to the US tax payer to keep flipping the bill for all these deadbeat nations.

@Joker: The NATO is obsolete, indeed! Before Germany and Russia can work together, they should get rid of the US / UK Pro Think Thanks in the media for example.

True. NATO is obsolete. Visegrad is future.

I think that Visegrad on its own is rather weak....

Worse than weak. Ready for invasion

Please keep to the topic

Nobody won`t dare to invade something what have Poles and Serbians for its backbone, for both, political and military reasons.

Especially not EU.

@Crow

Ha,ha I think that EU can not even look properly after their own borders so very low chance of them invading anyone:-)

Im guessing this map is going by all types of terror - left, right, islamic, etc since I can't recall any islamic terror incidents in slovakia, belarus, etc and also ukraine appears to have a large amount of red dots - probably due to the war with Russia and Ukraine's referencing of the seperatists as terrorists. It certainly isn't just taking into account islamic terror

I don't know where he got that map from but it's typical of a certain kind of mis-representation of facts. As you say Dirk, it's most certainly not related to soley Islamic fundamentalist attacks. Look at Ireland for God's sake. When did we ever have an Islam related terror incident. Clearly those red patches refer to the Troubles and it looks pretty inaccurate even in that sense as there are several red dots in the Republic and we had only one major incident back in 1974! It boggles the mind how quick people are to believe any old tosh they find on the internet.

Obviously Islamic fundamentalism and related terrorism is a major issue at the moment and one doesn't need to make up lies about it in order to demonstrate that fact. It would be interesting if someone would create an accurate map of the situation in Europe and a global map with a proper time frame eg over the last ten years and a legend giving details of which groups claimed responsiblity.

@Atch

The mapis likely to be inaccurate however the point is that Poland hasn't suffered from any Islamic terrorism on Polish soil and there is a reason for that............

I imagine you think it's because there's very few Muslims in Poland? There is a certain element of truth in that but in time Spiritus, if there is some kind of Islamic plan to take over the world, every country will be targeted. But that's a long way down the road and honestly I don't think a plan for world domination will succeed because no single civilisation has ever managed to build a global empire. History shows that civilisations can take over huge chunks of the world, but not the whole thing and that in the end all such empires fall.

There aren't that many... there are the tatars who are traditionally very patriotic (and declining in numbers due to outmarriage last I knew)

There are those that came as students (learning in Polish rather than in second rate English language programs) and never left but they're highly educated and have no problem with secular authority.

Then there are small business people who have to stay on good terms with the buying public...

What Poland doesn't have yet are the low social capital minimally educated large families (though chain migration) that burden the welfare and prison systems.

Hopefully it will not acquire such.


No, but it can do a _lot_ of damage while the nervous nellies fret on the sidelines. See communism (the last failed ideology that targeted the whole world, it didn't succeed but it did kill around 100 million people on the way...

The reality of accepting undocumented migrants and asylum seekers.

Three quarters of 'suspicious' child migrants in Sweden turned out to be over 18, tests on their teeth and knees prove

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4563200/75-suspicious-child-migrants-Sweden-adults.html#ixzz4imRglOsP