Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

And the current utopianist agenda doomed to failure is the PC-rooted leftist-liberal-libertine ideology. But before it collapses (hopefully not due to the Muslim onslaught, but because of widspread grass-root rejection!) it will leave many dead bodies from OD and rampant crime, twisted lives, broken homes and fatherless children in its wake.

That's because Poland is a strong 99% Christian country with a low tolerance for foreigners with radical ideologies.
The coward terrorists always hit soft targets like the little kids concerts in Manchester.
Poland is not a soft target.

but brate, EU membership and those %`s stays in direct contradiction. How long Poland would be able to resist?

I don't think you can get much softer than an ariana Grande concert...

Oh poland and polish people will resist as long as it has to. Over a hundred years off the map with waves of russificatiom, germanification, etc followed by war after war followed by communism and yet here we are a regional power.

For sure, EU qualifies itself as one of historical challenges to the Poles. We live in interesting times.

The real issue is that it seems the Muslims in European countries simply don't WANT to adopt to Western aka Judeo-Christian ways! Naturally there are any number of exceptions once can cite, yet I must confess that I too am sick and tired of the double standard, requiring for instance that the host nation (such as Germany) not serve pork on certain Muslim holidays, being unwilling to learn the national language (German), while insisting that the native ethnic inhabitant succumb to the foreigner's wishes, mother tongue etc...

It is going too far indeed, considering that the Jews who arrived in Germany so long ago, made the most noble efforts and succeeded in learning German which contributed richly to the national literature of that country, thus to the entire world such as Heine, Marx, Schnitzler, Hofmannsthal, Boerne etc... The thought of the latter publishing in Yiddish, even Hebrew (their ancestral tongue) would have been anethema to a people proud of their assimilated, enlightened values, moreover eternally grateful to their Christian hosts for allowing them the privilege of living in THEIR country!! CItizenship wasn't something merely conferred upon the Jews of the German Empire, it was earned in the blood they shed for their adopted German Fatherland.

Do the Muslims in Poland, Germany or elsewhere feel any such kinship or gratitude?? Don't make me laugh.

Well actually the 30k Muslim lipka tatars are very assimilated and have been in Poland for centuries. They have fought under the white and red too. Those are the kind of Muslims/Buddhists/Hindus whatever i don't mind. Nonetheless, every nationality has the right to be the majority in their own country and make their own laws and policies and decide their own fate.

A big part of the radicalization that occurs in Europe is due to the mosques built by Saudi arabia and allies Sunni monarchs. They'll tell trump 'we weren't completely honest with you' whilst continuing to funnel hundreds of millions to mosques in Europe and sending their most radical imams to preach and proselytize.

Funny how here in the west now al nusra front (I believe they're now called jahbat al Islam or something) is being seen more and more as 'the good moderate rebels.' they've distanced themselves from al Qaeda and put on a pr reinvention campaign that Phillip morris could take notes on. I must've missed their posting for a marketing director on careerbuilder

Synagogues in Germany typically conformed to the norms of contemporary German architecture and the fact that a great number almost look like churches should not be surprising when you consider that all the licensed German architects until maybe the early 20th century, were themselves Christians.

The point is, the Jews of Germany unlike the vast majority of Muslims born or living in Germany ALL desired total assimilation, often embarrassed by their brethren from "beyond the pale", with their caftans, paeas, shreimels, and Yiddish intonations!!

While I'm not saying that concealing ones heritage is a good thing, the point is that Germany's Jews traditionally valued Western culture and were proud of their German language, such as Moses Mendelssohn along with numerous others.

Lyszko the jews as a group have been doing this since roman times... They assimate into a country, learn the langauge and customs, set up businesses or go to the local uni to become a doctor, lawyer, businessman, politician. In cases of the powerful upper echelons of the learned Jews this is merely a smoke screen - whether they had to learn French or German it makes little difference. Some Jews will only interact with other jews as Jewish scripture states, but of course not all follow this tenet due population growth, technology, etc. However some of the Jewish community especially the more orthodox tend to keep to their own. Often times marraiges are arranged and the rules of day to day living are very strict. Yet, some of the younger practicing orthodox do drugs because they argue there's nothing in their scripture restricting their use. One issue of these arranged marriages within such a small community can result in inbreeding. For example, tay Sachs disease is essentially unique to the Jewish community. Doctors recommend couples get tested prior to having kids to make sure they're compatible due to the issues of inbreeding.

The practice of dissociation from society would've surely been more prevalent during Babylonian or Egyptian captivity to avoid infiltration and the wrong info getting out but the practice is waning. Ive eaten at plenty of Israeli delis in hardcore Jewish areas and the worst that happens is just stares which I interpret as 'what is that pretty Jewish girl doing with that crude goy!? Oy vey..' sometimes a table will speak in a foreign language to make fun of me or my gf in Yiddish or hebrew. My gf will tell me what they said and I promptly walk over to their table, put my hands on the top of the table, look them in their eyes and ask them if they have the balls to repeat what they said in english. Ill usually say something along the lines of 'what's a matter did doc screw up and snip off your balls too' Meanwhile Ill help myself to a bite or two of some of their finger food, use a napkin laying on their table and throw it square in the middle of their plate while they fathom what's going on. Afterall, these guys aren't use to be calling out on their b.a. after about 1 min theyre so scared and say sorry sorry sorry I'm so sorry what can I do to make it up. I tell them sorry isn't going to cut it as you've offended my woman and I won't tolerate that. I stand in such a way they can't really move out their booth. They apologize profusely and sometimes I get a free meal for two or like $50 out of it. Hey I didn't start it and had no intention of fighting but perhaps now they'll learn to talk $hit about people willingly spending money in a Jewish kosher establishment despite being catholic simply because I am interested in all cultures.

Anyway in more modern times jews became fluent in German French english or wherever they settled for a longer period of time than their ancestors. Keep in mind the jews/Israelis have always been on the move bouncing from place to place throughout their entire history - egypt, babylon, rome, judea, england, spain' germany, switzerland, poland, and hundreds more if you're counting countries, states, principalities, etc as the world was shaped from the end of the Roman empire to the tail end of the collapse of feudalism. The jews have migrated through the world far far more than gypsies. The gypsies moved out of India to Europe and for the most part stayed there with a few moving to north America in more recent times. Yet I can't think of dozens upon dozens of edicts expelling Roma (gypsies) from the monarchs realm. Not the jews though - over 115 places they were kicked out of over 2'000 years. Literally there are a total of 115 to 140 different city-states, countries, principalities, kingdoms, etc that have all issued edicts to expel the jews from their respective realm over the past 2000 years. Could it be racism? Perhaps. I think the more likely cause is that the townsfolk complained to their leaders that the jews were usurping them and creating monopilies, destroying businesses, causing people to lose homes because they can't make the payments etc etc.

Nonetheless, the bottom line is the very same group of people were kicked out of over 115 city states, principalities, and countries - spanning 3 continents, over the course of 2,000 years. Itd be foolish to think that it was always fault of all the 115 city states and not the jews. The gypsies are to this day known as thieves, tarot card readers, pick pockets, scammers, etc yet there's no case of over 100 countries and city states exiling them.

I could attribute perhaps 2 incidents maybe 5 or 10 where a ruler kicked out the jews but that's not the case - rulers from all over western, central and eastern Europe as well as Africa and Asia all kicked out the jews. One can cry Racist! Antisemite! If there were say one state, or even dozen or two dozen that kicked out the jews. But no its over 100 states that have (including one of the us colonies actually attempted this) kicked out the jews from their realm, oftentimes after welcoming them in because the next door neighbor state kicked them out, over the course of 2000 years.. There's obviously more to this and I believe it has to do a lot with those who practice Talmudic writings into everyday light. I've read a good portion of the Talmud (7k pages in total) but read the sanhedrin front to back... The things I can tell you that are in there are rsther shocking. Certain passages in the Talmud make Hitler's MeIN Kampf look like Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs.
but they do not abandon their menorah nor their Hebrew language and most importantly the Torah and Talmud teaching learned in the yeshiva. Similar to the current migrants in the special urban zones SEZ the French fall them I believe (no go zones), the jews too have their own areas that are 90% plus Jewish. One in particular is Kiryas Joel which you can look up. The difference is in Kiryas Joel while a goy may get some strange looks, he probably won't get accosted, threatened, or just generally feel unsafe. However it is advisable for women who travel through to wear a head scarf, a long skirt, and unraveling neckline or teenagers may throw rocks at her.

The Talmud writes much on this topic as a good portion of it was written while the jews were living in exile under the babylonians. It taught the jews to smile and be friendly to the locals, adapt to their culture, learn their language, but deep inside have a hatred for them because they conquered their kingdom and still view them as non Jewish cattle aka goyim. For example, a specific passage states its permissible to kick a ladder that a goy may be standing on while another says if a goy loses money and a jew finds it a jew may keep it but if a jew loses money a jew must return it if its found. Other examples state its totally fine to usurp a goy but not a jew.

However by far the most offensive thing I read in the talmud is a passage that states Mary (Miriam) was a wealthy governesses' daughter who wh0red and slummed it with a carpenter. The result was Jesus (Yashu) which explicitly states that Jesus is a blasphemer and is in he'll boiling in a pool of excrement. That along with passages that state its permissible to steal a goys organ if a jew needs it, its permissible to rip off a goy for a jews own gain, its okay to usurp a goy but never a jew and hundreds more. The non jews, goyim, are merely cattle to serve the Jewish people and we should he happy to have such a purpose in life. Even mendel schneerson said that jews were the supreme race and the best goys can hope for is to lick a jews feet.....

How can you expect me or anyone else for that matter to be friendly to a Talmud abiding jew when we know what is written in their books? I may add there's one passage too in the Talmud that states ' jews should lie when asked what is in their scripture for if the goyim knew what was inside they would certainly kill us'

Id like to point out that the koran, which I've read front to back and has some violence but nonetheless doesn't have any of the extremely deceptive manipulative completely antisocial borderline psychopathic content of the Talmud.

If you think I'm wrong, pick up a copy of the Talmud especially the sanhedrin and soon you'll realise that the whole theme is 'us versus them' and how to win by whatever means necessary.

Sources: Talmud especially the sanhedrin, Torah, practicing orthodox girlfriend (former orthodox community member but still practicing jew - she left when her family tried to put her into an arranged marriage at 16). Also I've been to Israel as I worked for an Israeli company

Netenyahu can criticise Carter's book peace not apartheid but I can tell you from what I've seen with my own eyes - there is a very harsh state of apartheid and the Palestinians are treated literally like garbage - just to be left outside of a big wall and make life so terrible for them to travel (imagine going through some 10 checkpoints on a 30 45 min commute to work - itd drive you insane too after a while).

Try not to impute personal or contemporary value judgements into ancient texts.

Modern Christian civilization is based off the Bible just as modern Muslim civilization is based off the Koran. The Bible continues to be the most widely read book in the western world with the Koran having that title in the east. For the most part, these books aren t so much complete historical fact but rather a sort of instruction on how to live your life according to whatever religion and hence book you subscribe to. For example with the Koran yes there are passages that explain when capital punishment is allowed, it does discuss fasting, meditations, psalms and poetry, moral laws, and so forth. Whether its the bible or Koran or talmud, most readers and theologians do not subscribe to literal interpretations. Of course there's exceptions especially when it comes to the Koran and some believers take the 'strike the nonbelievers (which they actually meant pagans at the time not christians or jews) and kill the infidel passages as justification to murder kuffars as they're called. If I remember correctly (its been a few years since I read the koran) but i believe Mohammed said to develop economic ties with the Jews, not to kill them.

The difference between the bible and Koran versus the Talmud is that both the bible and Koran teach to be accepting of others. Yes both are filled with laws we may find a bit silly in the modern world. While the Koran limits this being accepting of 'people of the book' meaning only jews and christians but not pagans, it still describes a sense of 'you're different and that's okay - your christian, I'm Muslim and that's fine.' The Talmud on the other hand is the opposite where it explicitly states jews are the chosen people, the masters of the world, and has list after list of cruel things that are perfectly acceptable for a jew to do to a goy. While the Koran acknowledges and praises noah, moses, jesus, and a dozen other characters that are also found in the bible, the Talmud rejects jesus, which is fine as its a theological difference, but there's no need to poke fun at him or his family which the sanhedrin does in the most cruel terms.

While I doubt today that a jew will purposely knock over a ladder that a goy is standing on, by reading and being taught from such books by theological authorities it shapes ones worldview. In this case, a worldview of supremacy that my group is superior to all and it is permissible for me to steal your property - even your organs because my religious writings say so.

Also, not every Jew is a Zionistl and its important to note that to most jews the Torah takes precedence over the Talmud. You don't even have to be Jewish to be a zionist. There's plenty of catholic ones and actually probably even more catholic Zionists due to the large population of evangelical Catholics and Catholics that support Israel regardless of her actions versus the 6 mil jews in Israel a

Also, many orthodox groups like netuya karta and true Torah jews who know far more than I do about theology and Jewish scripture firmly reject Israel existing as a state. Their reason is theological though because they believe jews shouldn't have a state till their messiah is revealed. I do believe jews deserve their own state and Israel ought to exit. However the hypocrisy lies when the world community criticizes russia for annexing Crimea and suddenly they're faced with all sorts of sanctions and bad press while Israel has been steadily demolishing Palestinian homes without any compensation to families and gradually gobbling up more and more territory for decades. If it wasn't for the balfour declaration, Churchill (he had a very unique relationship with the Jews - on one hand he felt annoyed by them, threatened by the Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia but ultimately succumbed to the western jews, namely a rothschild, demands to save Britain's losing position in ww1. Check out his essay zionism vs bolshevism). Yet they have the gall to call BDS antisemitic - a movement that boycotts Israeli goods made in occupied territories, not all Israeli goods. Israel has had more un resolutions against it for things like massacring Lebanese college students, bombing schools and hospitals in west bank Gaza and lebanon, using white phosphorous shells, indiscriminate punishment in the 08 Gaza war, and much more. One can Google un resolutions against Israel and see there are well over a hundred.

Most importantly, the us calls Israel our 'greatest ally.' Do allies kill each other though? Of course not. Nonetheless Israel killed us citizens in Egypt during the lavon affair and killed servicemen aboard the uss liberty. Countries like Libya and Iraq have never attacked the us in a state capacity yet they were invaded, the leaders deposed, and the locals left destitute. Was Israel ever sanctioned or attacked? Hell the government didn't even want to investigate the uss liberty incident let alone make the Israeli leaders pay for what they did. To this day survivors and family of the deceased have only been given half truths and crumbs of information as the decades go on. But yet bds is an inappropriate racist movement....

Thankfully more and more people from all different walks of life, religions, and political views are beginning to discuss Israel's treatment of palestine. While many Zionists are in high positions in the formal media as well as government, there is a lot of discussion and action on the ground level. While CNN or FOX may not show images of white phosphorous and unguided bombs over residential areas in Gaza or report on the brave American woman who stood in front of an IDF bulldozer so that a family's home wouldn't get destroyed (she was bulldozed along with the home), the Zionists cannot prevent people like jimmy carter from writing peace not apartheid, they can't prevent the un from issuing more resolutions (although this doesn't seem to matter because no sanctions or any sort of punishment follows) nor can they prevent people from marching on quds day (coming soon in July) in solidarity with Palestinians.

Normally I wouldn't care about such things. However I've been to Israel and I've seen the hundreds of checkpoints and thousands of soldiers who's purpose is to make life for all Palestinians hell. The government and idf instill a sort of collective punishment. Yet they don't realize such actions are creating more terrorists. Or perhaps they do and its a great way to extort more billions from American taxpayers - kind of like our never ending war on terror. Any student of military history will tell you its pretty much impossible to wipe out a partisan guerilla type force.

I will add though that actually much of the average Israelis feel for the Palestinians and oftentimes have Palestinian friends. No mixed marriages though - thatd be automatic ostracism from both sides. You can see even the difference in how they live - on one side of the fence pretty spacious villas while on the other small dense shanties.

Good. Good that dark forces provoke Poland. More they provoke, closer the Poland`s response, closer Intermarium.

If the Qu'ran teaches to be accepting of others, does that include bombing, maming, and torturing the innocent???!
Sure sounds accepting to me:-)

There are something going on. Those swarthy, bearded types, walking in groups, pairs of very seldom alone look to me like Muslims or Islamists. Who the hell are they?

27 May 2017 in Czestochowa - 25 year old Polish man has been attacked by a group of those 'unknown' foreigners.

Nothing on the news.

@Lyzko

I'm not an expert on the Koran - ive only read it once. However it does say violence against unbelievers is acceptable. Sects like wahabis take unbelievers as anyone who isn't a Sunni Muslim rather than a pagan. That's oftentimes how they justify their violence. But yes the Koran states that 'believers' ought to spread Islam throughout the world and violence is allowed.

@Ironside

Not good.. I hope large groups like this haven't been covertly accepted into poland without the publics knowledge. I recently read an article where the government wants to basically create a database of all foreigners in poland. I think this is a good idea - you have to know who is in your country. I plan to move to poland in the future and it wouldn't bother me if I'm on such a foreigners list especially if it means I can go to a stadium concert etc with peace of mind

Oddly enough, when the opposite occurs, as it did for purely different reasons in a recently united Germany, round about '94-'95 in Hoyerswerda with a group of skinheads beat to death a Somalian man, the papers turned it into a media circus.

The news IS reported somewhat differently all over the world when certain groups are deemed "special interest" groups:-)

If that's what it honestly says, Dirk ol' man, that's hardly acceptable to right-thinking Muslims anywhere, is it?

Yea that's why when people say 'islam is a religion of peace' perhaps yes the majority of Muslims arent violent but the ones who have a few screws loose use the Koran to justify their violence. The Koran is certainly a rather graphic book.. So are parts of the old testament.. The new testament not so much

And neither were all Germans Nazis, yet the many rotten apples surely soured that nation for the rest of us:-)

Beware Poles, confrontation with EU may bring Poland down. EU would certainly use every possible means to stop Poland from doing what Poland desire. That means to bring destruction and even greater humiliation on Poles, thru the means of media war, anti-Polish propaganda, sponsoring of internal antagonisms in Poland, collaboration with Poland`s neighbors who may be hostile on Poland, economic embargoes and sanctions, informative warfare and even open military attack. It may sound as exaggeration to you now but, that`s exactly what happened to Yugoslavia and Serbia when they opposed to EU dictate.

So, once more, beware Poles. No, don`t give up from your freedom and independence. I know you won`t give up. I merely telling to you to brace yourself and be prepared to pay price. Highest possible price. Slava! God save Poland

You would all learn how sick is EU (ie western Europe) and NATO (USA and western Europe). And you would learn it harder way. Then, you would understand. When you pay price.

Funny enough some parts of Swedish media has unwillingly had to acknowledge certain things... It started with the whole "Well terrorism is a normal part of European life now" but then some realize that it's actually not a part of European life. Only parts of Europe has that life. The multicultural parts with mass immigration of non-europeans.

I'll quote, "Prag, Budapest, Warsaw and Bratislava has no terrorism".

And my favourite, "What about us, we have no Israel to flee to". Muhahaha.

/ Happy Swede in Poland

By the way Poles, be prepared for influx of white people from other parts of Europe in one to two decades, been hearing it more and more. Tourism from Sweden to Poland has increased and the words about Polish cities is nothing but positive. Clean, low crime, high security and no non-europeans.

yes. It is reserve plan. By that plan, Poland would be changed and then would come new merging with western Europe, while non-Europeans finally gets access to Poland.

Trap is trap is trap. Only one way to escape. To abandon that and form Intermarium.

Not if Harry or Jon have anything to say about it....

Maf & Co., it's not that non-white, non-European peoples were enticed to the Continent over the decades by unscrupulous businessmen, seeking to turn the relative orderliness of various countries into a living cesspool by mimicking (actually, mocking!!) the US practice of a collective melting pot in order merely to legally facilitate cheap labor at near rock-bottom wages. The fact that they're "foreign" is hardly the point, the point is rather the extent to which many have been given the chance to integrate successfully and have failed to do so.

Easy enough to rant, "GET ALL THEM SCUM OUTTA EUROPE AND KEEP US WHITE AND CHRISTIAN......!", harder indeed to try to fix an admittedly deep-seated problem with concession, negotiation, along with the hard-line, yet sensible, pragmatism. I think Trump's Tweets to Lord Mayor Khan are disgraceful, yet scarcely a surprise from a man who deals as filthy and dirty as you can get:-)

Trump is a loose cannon and is certainly no diplomat. What I can say is that Khan annoyed a lot of people when he made a speech shortly after the Westminster attack saying that terrorism is part and parcel of living in a big city (or words to that effect).

I think what he meant is that terrorism, like it or not, has become the "new normal" and that society will simply have to deal with eradicating it as best it can:-)

PM May however, I think spoke much more cogently and forcefully on this matter.

What's new about it?

If anything calling an abstraction terrorism, is as old as the hills.

True, but somehow, I can only attribute his remarks to typical British understatement:-) On the other hand, PM May was far from understated this afternoon, and it looks like from hereon in, London's bobbies are gonna be carryin'more than just their knight sticksLOL Long tired since the IRA days of being labled "London's BOOBIES", police will now be required to bare arms, a somewhat overdue concession with English tradition!

I remember when Communist Poland was part of the 'enemy', they who would come to the west and infiltrate it to turn it in to their commie paradise.

Much the same way I am being told about how Muslims will come here and turn it into an Islamic law, 'paradise'.

The ones who've gained the most from calling these abstractions or thoughts into something to be feared but impossible to destroy is the weapons industry.

Are you suggesting that muslims are escaping islam in the same way, that Poles were escaping communism?

Quite the opposite, I think. Muslims who have moved to Northern Europe are radicalized, and probably were at home as well. Poles weren't escaping from a "milder" to a more "virulent" form of Communism, rather, they were merely acting their conscience.

The two issues couldn't be more separate!