Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Why? They're still coming, and the definition of a 'war zone' is notoriously difficult. As I say, they will come and we need to make the best of it and do the right thing. Poland has a chance to show that its much-vaunted Christian principles are not just empty words and extravagant displays.

"Tusk demands refugees to spread out throughout the EU"

Excellent :)))))

"Poland cannot keep living off EU's money (= western Europeans' tax money) while refusing solidarity."

Can :))) Lefties, EU is working according to certain rules and laws, there's nothing about this madness there, your "ultimatums" are just a joke, your sick fantasies about "mighty EU" :)))))

"The world sees what countries are generous and what countries are selfish...."

Boo friggin hooo. Majority of the world now look in disbelief thinking "what the hell these damn EUnuchs are doing".

"As to Poland "not being able to afford" this is pure BS since EU shall financially assist countries in supporting refugees."

So what it's all about ? What's the point of bringing them here ?

"Poland has a chance to show that its much-vaunted Christian principles are not just empty words and extravagant displays."

Yes, we should bring in more Christians from Syria and Iraq. Before the muslim trash kill them.

People, try to think of this topic from another angle. Listen, just close your eyes and think of the first part of the thread`s title `Poland under pressure of EU`. Erotic, isn`t it?

Then, continue with closed eyes and think of the other part of the title `to accept more asylum seeking refugees`. Or rather no. Just continue with closed eyes and first part of the title and forget the other part of title.

This is a false comparison random - we are talking about European democracies and some pariah states that are unspeakable in terms of their human rights record.


But we don't need that article to realise that the Arabs have little association and most of the "League of Arab States" would be in open warfare if they could possibly get away with it.

Why would any of them help the Syrians to such an extent that parts of Egypt or Jordan become a de-facto Syrian state? In reality they show little statehood to each other. It was very hard to feel sympathy for Kuwait for example when Iraq invaded in 1991. Their society is not one I would wish on my circle.

This has no bearing on the Polish state, inherent racism as a modern European state, with it's European morals and ethics, and the blank refusal of some (including a doctor on the 500 medical council no less, who was the biggest racist I have ever come across) to help in any shape or form any muslim of any description - under the baseless argument that "they are potential terrorists/ will bring their Sharia law with them etc..."

Note here that I don't say that Poles are inherently racist - I don't know millions of them personally, so couldn't offer any evidence. But the establishment and the elite clearly are.


Yes - but how can we ask Assad and his gang to let a few tens of thousands of muslims to queue up nicely for passports, and food - and in the meantime could he not be a spoilsport by dropping some cluster bombs, because it's not playing the game....?

We hear how much The UK helps to build the refugee camps etc... but if the camps are so safe and so on, why are 100s of thousands risking death to cross the Aegean and Adriatic? We do notice that Cameron started off early last year stating that they were all economic migrants, and needed to be sent back where they came from.

We all knew at the time that he "was badly advised" and that the huge majority of these people were in dire straits. That was 18 months ago now.

And Italy and the rest had to pick up the pieces initially. And what has Poland done, and what aid has she provided? Please do tell - because I'd love to know.

Maybe- unlike the USA - which loves to sing from the rooftops how much aid it provides to countries which it has helped to destroy, Poland actually does provide aid - but never publicises it? Anything is possible I suppose....


Absolutely not.

Poland has always been famed in diplomatic circles (where they know the facts) for being ingrates, so no - the Poles cannot be left to themselves, to choose to do nothing, just because their catholic housewives don't like the concept of "Johnny shoeshine" living in the next district.


No we don't want to donate to your "christian" foundation thanks very much. Those people came here on your invitations because they wanted a change from war-torn downtown Assad Damascus They are christian by your own admission - not the same sect as Assads' though I take it?

But definitely no muslims from Aleppo - because they are different right? Maybe still human - but definitely not as clean as those christians living in downtown Damascus we could imagine. Seeing as parts of Aleppo are not looking so great just at present - just a small matter of it being Syria's second biggest city - but they don't qualify for your foundations' help right?

Which people really need asylum? Your 60 families, or the people of Aleppo?

Pathetic. Enjoy your happy-clap "christian" meetings.

ME Christians have never been known for terrorist attacks, suicide bombings or decapitation. It's as simple as that. Sure, not all Mulsims engage in terrorism but the few who do have given the rest a bad name and people lending a helping hand do not want to risk inviting potential danger and trouble. Iraqi Caldaeans, Syrian and Lebanese Christians, Egyptian Copts have all been the vicitms of Muslim fanaticism and aggression, not the other way round.

I think countries should decide for themselves how many refugees and from where they are willing and are capable taking in


Not a great fan of democracy? Not unusual for a socialist.

"No we don't want to donate to your "christian" foundation thanks very much."

Who are "we", psycho ?

"Those people came here on your invitations because they wanted a change from war-torn downtown Assad Damascus"

Those people are at risk 1000 times more than average muslim and surely much more than all these boat Negroes.

"Pathetic."

You are pathetic, psycho. Muslims creat all that mess in the first place and bring that mess to the countries stupid enough to host them. Majority of Poles don't want them here and that's our God given right.

"Sure, not all Mulsims engage in terrorism but the few who do"

Few does it and the silent majority don't give a feck. Beside it's not only about terrorism, Muslims in general have proven to be anti-social crowd. It's to drop the PC nonsense and tell that openly.

But I am not a socialist. It is PiS who hand out ex- government housing for 7000 zl to "deserving families".

That's socialism. The rest of us have to work hard to make a living. And would like to think we are God-fearing, and wish our political masters to do our bidding. And if we are an illiterate mass, they have to do the right thing for us, because we are still too new a democracy to know what decency entails.

I believe my last sentence was actually intended to refer to Poland.

Paulina's post did indicate that in fact the premier is saying the right thing. But actions speak a lot louder than words.

What's left of Aleppo.

They will come, and history will judge this generation on how this situation will be dealt with. Racists, Islamophobes, ultra-conservatives can wail and gnash their teeth. It won't stop one single person from coming. And yes, regardless of the policies of this or a future Polish government, it will change, albeit very slightly, the country. No bad thing.

I have repeatedly said this only to be met with jon claiming since I don't live in Poland I don't know what I am talking about.

He claims that Poland does not feel this way at all. (I knew better)
And yet another person saying the same thing jon



Oh for the sake of Mary don't do that or you will be called a racist and bigot ! lol
Kennyboy your post #499 IS SPOT ON ! (Please everybody go re-read it.)
These people have been at war for thousands of years non stop. Most of them still wipe themselves using their bare hand.


And "FAMILY" means each man has three or four wives pumping out a total of 15 to 20 kids per seed donar.
(Not to mention how many young Polish girls they ruin)
If ya can't feed them don't breed them !


I have made this same point repeatedly. Very well put spiritus.
Never in my life time did I think I would agree with a Brit on this forum, now two of them (Kennyboy and spiritus have appeared that are not left - winger bleeding heart liberals. Thank you Lord.


Another yet condescending remark about Christians from jon who claims Poland is not a Christian country. Make up your mind.


I find that VERY HARD to believe and if you promote such propaganda you should move back to France.
Two countries that have fought for your F*cking freedoms and ungrateful you have the audacity to bad mouth them.
You are pitiful.

I'm British but without a drop of English blood in me. All my family are/were Polish. Even my wife is Polish :)

When she first came to the UK I as honestly appalled at her bigoted and prejudice views and I still reign her in sometimes as I have nothing against non-muslims but in the space of ten years I have witnessed first hand how towns and cities in the UK have changed and how Muslim pressure groups force the establishment to make concessions that are disproportionate to the actual number of muslims living in these countries.

If enough muslims get a proper foothold in a country then they will become the majority given enough time. The things you hold sacred in your country (wherever that may be) will be under threat from extinction. And once you are in the minority remember this........Muslim countries are not "fond" of minorities.

Tusk is paid by the western European magnates and its quite normal that he defend their interests.

Difficult not to be a little suspicious of this:

Polish lorry carrying refugees crashes in Slovakia.
thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/219970,Polish-lorry-carrying-refugees-crashes-in-Slovakia

"The refugees, who included three teenagers, together with twenty adult men, tried to flee the scene following the accident"
is there a War in Slovakia too?why fleeing authorities? or social welfare to low perhaps?

here is a gem...heard abot this syrian asylum seeker in Poland,complaining about too small 30 m square flat he received?
fkin dikhead...when i came to London in 1999 i rented room with gypsies,35 quid a week...4 of us in one room...i was happiest man on earth...

If it was up to me the UK would kick out the hundreds of thousands arrogant Poles we have here and invite genuine refugees to live here. It makes me angry when we see tragic cases like that poor 3 year old boy and we are reluctant to help because there is no room left in this country. If the bloody Poles buggered off home we could help those that really need it.

Tony Blair has so much to answer for.

A million Poles in the UK and you have the audacity to claim you are full.
Full of sh*t more like.
Hilarious, the Germans are making the Poles look like savages.
Same old same old here on PF.

My fear right now is that Germany's attitude towards them is going to backfire spectacularly. The V4 countries (Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia) will absolutely not agree to being forced to take anyone, and it's likely that countries such as Lithuania will join them. In that case, what happens next? Does Germany end up paying these countries to take them?

No idea. It may well be a case of the EU mandating the cost.

In the meantime, the sizeable majority of these people need our help. Unless you are watching a different news channel to me. A right wing one perhaps?

I find it strange, given Americas involvement in iraq and syria, that no one is asking them to take their share of refugees or at least helping to fund them in some way. Why isn't Europe asking America to take on their share of responsibility.

That's for the next few months. In the meantime, where are these people to be housed? Camps for the main part obviously, in Germany and France it would seem, as well as in Italy and Greece.

In the meantime, the EU will have to pay for it.

And lets make sure that the four Eastern European coward nations are made to damn well pay their share of the mandatory cost. Scum declarations from them today, but what can we expect from ex-commies?

I thought these countries were now Central European - but no - if your politicians have it their way, you will always be Eastern Europeans. And that's not a good thing to be labelled (unless you are a Putin lover)

Thank God a lot of the Hungarian population are normal people who have travelled and are well educated, and/or are God fearing with self respect and regard for their fellow man, and stop to offer what help they can. The politicians of these four states, who (as Polonious and Crow have rightly said) only look after their career "jobs," need shooting. With blood filled water guns. And jeered at live on news at 9. Pure scum.

All bad news, After WWII my mum spent 7 years in a holding camp in Africa, until Britain let her in, other countries refused.

My dad always said that people would forget about the misery that war brings, and repeat the mistakes of the past.

I guess he was right

Shocking, but those were poor, poor times. This has no excuse and the Poles forget their history, and as British diplomatic envoys are documented as stating on many an occasion, are mind-blowingly arrogant.

There need to be financial clauses to be levelled for those EU countries which refuse their responsibilities. Call it by any other name - but like the yellow past of the Swedes in two World Wars, national disgrace sticks and is never forgotten.

"This has no excuse"

I wasn't making an excuse I was just remembering my history, I'm not a politician, sadly i am unable to be of much help to these people, If I get a chance I Will.

Polish and English people should not feel ashamed.
Please do not even mention the Syrian father who's wife and children drowned. How come none of the media seems to mention he was the only one with a "life jacket" on. He "held on" to his wife until she died. How did he stay afloat?

If you had a brain, you would be dangerous. Do not handle any sharp objects.

Says you - of Polish extraction.

You really should, believe me.

get genuine asylum seekers temporary till situation stabilize...send back home after..help stabilize Syria,negotiate with Assad.stop arming rebels.get ground troops against ISIS.

Glad to hear that PL-CZ-H-S refused a migrant quota system. These people (overwhelmingly men) are nothing more than invaders. They have illegally entered many countries and should be deported. European countries should also erect walls and patrol borders to keep these invaders out. If these invaders see a unimpeded path into Europe they will continue coming and there will be no end in sight. Europe will fall apart.

It's also good to see that the Hungarians are following EU law and at the same time giving the invaders a hard time. Maybe this will help dissuade more from coming together with hungarian skinheads/football hooligans attacking them by the train station (just happened today). In Poland some syrians have complained about the small size of flats given to them free of charge thanks to taxpayers!! They just came from a war torn islamic ******** and they think it is ok to complain?? Some people in Poland cannot afford their own flats!

These people will not work or contribute to european society. They will leach off of broke european taxpayers for generations and i highly doubt they will assimilate. How many of these people are literate? How many have an education? How many are war criminals? How many are ISIS fighters?

The USA/Israel must stop destroying all these countries in the middle east. This is the only solution to this crisis.

What on earth makes you believe I am of Polish extraction? Is my English that bad?. Both of my parents are English and I was born in the West Country. I am a guest in Poland and, unlike you, I respect my hosts.

Poland has struggled for many years to become a democracy. Who are you to say that they should obey EU dictates and not decide their own fate. If you honestly believe that they joined the EU to replace one totalitarian state for another, just for investment money, you are a fool and do not understand the Polish people.

After years of servitude and cow-towing to the communist rulers, you seriously believe they are that stupid as to wish for the same with the EU?

It took a long time to gain freedom, I do not think they will give it away so easily again.

Corrected.


Don't be silly. After 23 years, one has a right to opinion after paying into the system. Just because we differ, doesn't make you "right."


Er... they joined didn't they? Do you understand opt outs and mandatory penalties for doing so?


So you profess to understand the Polish people? Good luck with that one:)


Nah - the "I'm alright Jack" types have forgotten their historical past and how over a 200 year period so many Poles were forced to make a future outside of their own homeland. Which was a painful and difficult break to make. And they were afforded asylum in their millions.

You are clueless buddy, and obviously affected by village life. As well as being seriously anti-humanitarian. Good luck in Poland playing the yes-man - and enjoy!

The rest of us will strive for better.

much better than being European Union yes-man like yourself


Indeed those are good news, once we get rid of the PO in next elections soon it will be even better.