Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Merkel does not make much sense. She has invited migrants so obviously they all want to come to Germany (normal since not invited by other countries) and now as too much for her to handle, she wants to impose the other countries to take refugees.

I don't agree with Poland and similar countries which are selfish and the only concern of which is to suck EU's funds but I don't agree with Merkel's position and I'm sure most Germans do not either.

Once again, the bulk of refugees shall be born by 3 or 4 countries. Yesterday, Cameron declared that Britain shall accept a few more thousands whereas countries like Poland shall have let's say 20 who shall stay 2 weeks in Poland before moving westwards to greener pastures.

But I am not, Wulkan. But some think it will have to do, reform and all, until something better comes along. Without the EU and it's financial power for the military, and we are talking France and the UK here, the Russians would have divided Ukraine in half and left them with a rump state to bleed dry. and then...?

You know it makes sense.
The European comission is supposed to talk and talk, and finally to reach a consensus. They are actually restricted in their power and are too soft on these countries who think the Liberium Veto concept was a good one and that if one glossy suit in Brno raises his sweaty hand and shouts "I object!" then the rest of us should kow-tow to his nationalist agenda. It's just that the new Eastern European clique are just that, a clique, and are dependent of the say-so of their people. A lot of who still use the horse and cart.

Those voters should stick to local politics and tending their pigs, and let the professional bureaucrats get on with it and actually find a solution. That's what we pay them for.

I believe the attitude will improve. The head of the of Office for Foreigners announced that Poland is willing to take in as much as 25-30 thousand asylum seekers but time is needed to prepare the necessary infrastructure to accommodate them.

That, to me, sounds like "there's an election coming up and there's no way we're going to make any decisions now".


That's exactly what it looks like to me. Germany is gaining a lot of enemies lately because of her demands, and I'm not so convinced that Merkel's foreign policy is actually that good.

Do realize that in view of the coming up election (October) in Poland, by saying that they NOW want to accept migrants, PO may commit suicide as no doubt most Poles are totally against migrants. I'm not sure that PO want to take the risk and lose the election.

@Delph: Merkel only thinks about Germany's need of workers in 10-15 years because of German population decline. If she wants the migrants, maybe she should accept them all and no problem for the others.

at last - a sensible post. Thank you.

I don't know about permanent stay in Poland or wherever. Of course tens of thousands of fit men, who can work, and will create havoc if not active, cannot be put in a camp 5 kilometres from Gorzow Wielkopolskie, given giant screens and ordered to sit and watch Al Jazeera all day.

But a modern state should be seen to be doing something.

The UK has a GDP something like 5 times that of Poland? At least Cameron et al have a scheme in place, and actually the UK has been helping Syrian refugees for 20 years - and has taken the largest number, if the Guardian newspaper as a source is to be believed.... as well as the UK being second behind the US in aid to the region.

What has Poland ever done that is tangible? It's the very republicanism, or implied nationalism, about Polish life today, that I find mind-boggling. A lot of Polish politicians are saying good things, and you don't get elected if you an illiterate chicken farmer or a boozy old language trainer, but their intelligent voice is drowned out by the nationalist baying masses.

Even from successful doctors and lawyers, we hear disgusting arguments about muslims at large being "terrorists and uneducated animals" etc - but the country who visited that unter-menschen value on all in the last century has been to the university of life and recovered their pride. Poland's collective pride should not be allowed to be thrown out of the window, unless of course people really don't have any in the first place. Something I can't believe of my second home.

That is what I object to - that the decent person in Poland would be politely indulged at a dinner party if they raised the idea of aid - but there would be condescending, embarrassed glances round the table.

Well that was the story at my friends' Sopot bash in the grand Hotel anyway :) Clearly it was not the time and the place to discuss such matters. After all, Robert M. had just taken delivery of his new yacht and that was the order of the day.

Absolutely. The tenuous Polish bourgeoisie doing their usual totentanz.

It's in the constitution that Poland is a Christian nation. They just forget rather quickly the bit of Christianity that says you have to give all your money away. Including to refugees from the Middle East (which Jesus, Mary and Joseph were themselves).

"Good luck with that. You've taken the EU shilling, you'll play your part in humanitarian relief."

Good luck with that. They will board the first train to UK. In 50 years you Brits will be begging for Ukrainian immigrants, to help White-wash your population.

I hope poland, chech, hungary and slovakia leaving eropean union and start their own baltic-black sea union including ukraine, azerbaijan, georgia, moldavia and maybe even belarus + the baltic states as president duda suggested

Poland don't need this crap from syria.

Myself my mom is polish and i'm fleeing from Sweden to poland because they take to much immigrants that i can't stand

I appreciate that English is your second language, and thanks for writing in English, because as Paulina (she who condescended to lowering her inconsiderable intellectual standards to join us again for a brief sojurn) has taken great pleasure in pointing out, my written Polish is A2 at best and not as eloquent as your English.

However, as you clearly are a racist, and can't bear to see other communities, than your presumably white caucasian family, enjoying a picnic, I will point out the laughable nature of your post:

1. You are not fleeing from any Swedish killer groups, or from a murderous national army who use cluster bombs and chemical warfare. The word "flee" is misused by Slav speakers, to mean "leave at once." The word "flee" - as you will know - actually means (in the refugee context) to run in fear of your life. As immediately as possible. My wife's father had to flee across the fields, in the snow, in his slippers, within 5 minutes of the family being told, by the station masters son, that the Gestapo were coming for them toute de suite, to remove the town ilumni on the spot, against the wall of the town cinema that they built.

Translation for you: You did not "flee" - you made a few euros, then went back to Olstzyn on the plane to stay with babcia.

I know Sweden is ******* boring, but was it really that bad?

2. You refer to "immigrants". Yeah....... Poles go all over the world; some apply again and again for a green card, some have even asked for asylum - oh yes! Some have turned up on foreign shores, to help build that country's prosperity and GDP. And good luck to them.

However - a great many of them, when they go to those countries, and my woman at the time was no different, shout out "Oh , look at all those immigrants. There are so many of them.! Aren't they noisy! Aren't they dirty! Aren't they .....black.

Bloody immigrants!

And who are those Poles then??? LOL - if it wasn't so racist and revolting.

As I said before - this racist trait in some Poles is absolutely disgusting, and it's high time for some racial equality classes in Polish schools - where the children do not graduate until they SIGN a form stating that they have attended these mandatory classes. It's time to stop this state sponsored ILLEGAL racism, and to show that such endemic racism will not be tolerated in Central Europe.

Unless you want your country to turn into scum, that is?

The Polish Army was in Afghanistan and Iraq fella right alongside us, or is this just another example of convenient memory loss, a strange new Polish trait seemingly.

Pretty tragic really,5 years of Nazi occupation, 50 years of Soviet occupation and Poland's people and culture still stand.
Now.
The threat of a few dozen dusky looking women and children sends you into a fit of the vapours clamouring for people to realise this is the collapse of European civilisation .

Pretty spineless and pathetic really, the wartime generation must be face palming en masse over the youth it has left to lead Poland into the future.

This thread seems to have got people a little fired up, over 700 comments already, as the advert says, it's good to talk. (BT I think)

lets all be truthful here, it has nothing to do with where these people are placed but where they want to be, put 50,000 in Poland and guess what, the next day their heading west but what I find amazing is that not too long ago countries like Iraq and Syria were killing Christians ???? now they want to live with them, very odd.

Lets face it, the EU is like a dead fish in a lake, it has little future. As I said in an earlier post, the population of Africa 1.2 billion, what if they all come here on Monday, 2.2 million Syrian refugees in Turkey, the only reason more haven't made it to Greece is most probably due to a lack of boats.

I don't consider the Polish people, generally, to be any more racist than others, there just trying to hold onto their national identity. In the latest national census in the UK, 11.4% of the people living there were not born there, there are parts of Britain where the ''white British'' are a minority race. Where did it all go wrong.

Britain has a history of welcoming people from all nations, all I ask is that they make a contribution to the society they live in, work hard, pay your taxes and be a good member of the community, don't just sit back and take.

One sad thing about all the online nonsense is inadequate individuals squeezing out things like "I say, by all means help them but send back those illegal immigrants who are not Christians anyway, at least i.e. 95% of them. Fortunately nobody takes any notice of people like that - which is probably why they say it; to get the attention they crave.

And meanwhile the crisis continues. The people in Austria who are welcoming the refugees tonight are to be commended and the Germans should be proud of their response. I think we'll see a more pro-active approach from Poland too.

Poland should get the EU & the Kraut Lady of their back by offering to take 50,000 refugees/mirgants, lightly process them, give them some food and overnigth shelter and let things take their own course. We all know in which direction they'll move, and it won't be towards Belarus!

Yes, "political suicide for a lot of politicians in their home countries", including Poland since elections in October. I read today: 42% for PiS and 27% for PO and should the current Polish government accept whatever Angela wants, PO may finish behind Kukiz....

Merkel has made a big mistake. She is so stubborn but she'll manage herself to get out of her own sh..t

F..k those invaders!?They can all die for all I care,every single one.Whoever will lead Poland out of EU has my vote.All of you dumb foreigners go back to your own countries and welcome whatever **** you want but this is Polska!You are allowed to stay here but you are not allowed to be telling us what to do in OUR country!

to be honest,you cant blame those immigrants...everyone wants easy life is possible. merkel offered-why not take it?
its those leftist that is Europes problem.. idiotic-"please all" ideology,where there is no place for reason.logic and truth.
fkin generous,wonderfull Merkel....easy to be generous when giving away someone else money

You are right.This is why we need to leave EU.Enough of ******* "westerners" telling us what to do and how to live.The sooner we leave EU the better for us!

It's probably the election-deciding issue. No-one will mind a few Syrian Christians turning up, but any granting of asylum to Muslims from that part of the world will hurt them incredibly.


Not sure how to explain this to you, but Merkel is very much centre-right and nowhere near the left.

Bingo. Do you know what PiS are saying about the issue? Never mind Kukiz...

yea...they all centre and cons nowdays is pile of BS..same with "conservative" PO or Torries...leftist trash pretending they are something else.just put some make up to hide true nature

Absolutely if government accepted some of these migrants (but let's not "dream", Poland would only accept a symbolic handful of them), PO would be out of Sejm in the evening of October 25.

What do PiS, SLD, TR... Kukiz say about the situation, if anything?

As to Merkel, being "left wing", it sounds like the joke of the day.

Why should government accept any "migrants"/INVADERS IF people of Poland don't want them? After all Poland is a "democracy", no?

Yes @InPolska, Merkel is many things, but not at all left-wing. If anything she's Europe's foremost conservative. I'm interested too in what the various opposition parties are saying about the refugee crisis. PiS might do well to say very little, hard though that is for them.

@Jon: I'm sure that PiS (and the others) are happy not to be in office now ;). If governement accepts let's say a couple of hundreds, they'll lose a lot of voters (we have examples here of the way Poles feel ;)).

I don't know whether Merkel is the most conservative but for sure she is from tough right. Nevertheless, among the EU leaders, nobody is left wing. Even ..... Tsipras is no longer left wing ;).

About the same as PO, except that national sovereignty is cornerstone of PiS' traditional policy. For Kopacz it's a vote-getting gimmick. Szydło has said the situation has gone out of control and the EU has no idea on how to solve it. The Polish government should not be forced to do anything. It should be a sovereign Polish decision. We should first think about the return of people of Polish descent from the east.

tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-z-kraju,3/beata-szydlo-pis-o-kryzysie-imigracyjnym-i-problemie-uchodzcow,574039.html

Not too hard to understand, EU pays, EU decides ;)


What a difference 8 weeks makes. The reality is setting in.

Too bad it took a crisis like this for many people to realise the total folly, stupidity and pointlessness of leftism!

You are saying that as if Poland wasn't in EU. Unfortunatelly it is so it's also Poland pays, Poland DECIDES dude!

Very much so - they wouldn't be able to cope and would be end up antagonising everyone. It's an issue that's bigger than just one country, and none should be able to stand in the way of providing effective humanitarian relief.