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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Ziemowit
7 Sep 2015  #631

You think they want to find work? HA HA HA!!!

On the TV news yesterday most of them looked like decent chaps. And when you looked at their children, they looked amazingly nice, far nicer than many of the British, French or Polish, to be honest. The problem is that Poland hasn't got an efficient adninistration to tackle all this (although PAIIZ, for example has been amazingly good for the last few years and their decision to turn down this ridiculous Jaguar offer was brilliant). On the other hand, I saw an interview recently with someone who runs one of those immigration centers in Poland and she said they had plenty of places to receive new refugees.

delphiandomine
7 Sep 2015  #632

Another thing that is rarely mentioned is that much of the refugee wave is being fanned by human-trafficking mafias who get a pretty penny for each refugee that wants to leave.

Actually, I'd agree. It's absolutely disgusting to watch, and I think the United States pointed it out a while ago that they needed to strike at the heart of these mafias rather than the people on the boats.

BBman
7 Sep 2015  #633

If you lived in Poland, you'd know that most women would be terrified of going to the police with such a thing.

And how is this different from any other country/woman?

Dougpol1
7 Sep 2015  #634

disgraceful boasting and disrespect you display towards your host country.

Sorry Vox - what does boasting mean? I must admit I have the greatest dog in the world, but I didn't notice that I was guilty of boasting about anything on this forum. And I have paid into the Polish exchequer for 23 years. So I have a voice.

And you?

These questions you ask are subjective. I think Paulina put it best - when she said that some us of were lucky enough to be brought up in multicultural societies - though I 'm not sure that she used that term...

She didn't suggest (and nor do I claim) that people from such backgrounds see anything clearer than others. However, that background does teach you that people, irrespective of creed, colour or religion should have our help.

I repeat my previous question - what is Poland doing to help? She should be spending 0.33% of GDP on humanitarian aid. Is she? I could say, put up - or shut up. But rude? Moi? :)))

People don't get respect as a matter of course. They earn it.

Syria is a higher society in terms of social society than Eastern Ukraine. If you believe the American NeoCons then any country east of Tel Aviv is back in the years Before Christ. Syrians actually go to work in the mornings and don't only do the one/two/three finger trick to indicate how many days they have left until their social handout which they can spend on vodka.

That is partly why a lot of Syrians have a "middle class" lifestyle and those in Donbass don't.

Next?

gregy741
7 Sep 2015  #635

That is partly why a lot of Syrians have a "middle class" lifestyle and those in Donbass don't.

Ahh...thats why they despise them puny 30 meter square flats in warsow..got it now all clear.beside.wonder how HArry feels about it.he got 22 sq meter one.poor boy

jon357
7 Sep 2015  #636

Despise? I assume you're talking about the case in Pruszkow where a family of Christian Syrians (who had paid to come and were here legally) had been accommodated by a private organisation (which they'd paid) in a kawalerka.

These were not people who depend on handouts. But don't let the truth cloud your prejudice.

gregy741
7 Sep 2015  #637

assume you're talking about the case in Pruszkow

Nope.i think.the one brough by polish christian org.he got it for himself.later complained in syrian tv about too small flat

Wulkan
7 Sep 2015  #638

That is partly why a lot of Syrians have a "middle class" lifestyle

Yes, all 10 of them.

national
7 Sep 2015  #639

And I have paid into the Polish exchequer for 23 years. So I have a voice.

Who told you that?!You are just an immigrant.You want to live in our country,you need to obey our rules and customs including paying all applicable taxes but don't fool yourself,it doesn't give you any rights to have a voice in our affairs.For what we care you can **** off back to where you came from and it won't make any difference to us.

jon357
7 Sep 2015  #640

Gregy, I think we're talking about the same case. Religious organisations were involved, but it wasn't anything like the people in, say, Hungary.

national
7 Sep 2015  #641

I assume you're talking about the case in Pruszkow where a family of Christian Syrians (who had paid to come and were here legally) had been accommodated by a private organisation (which they'd paid) in a kawalerka.

Why don't you rent them some bigger place if you care so much instead of expecting Polish people to pay for their accommodation?I don't give to ***** about them so why do I need to pay?

These were not people who depend on handouts.

They weren't? Then how come they didn't rent themselves a place more suitable for them instead of ********? No bigger places for rent in Warsaw?I don't think so.

Crow
7 Sep 2015  #642

as i said, Poland`s-western Europe (ie EU) relationship is increasingly erotic. Problem is that only western Europe enjoy in that sex. Not to say that is Poland one, while there are three partners from the west of Europe- France, Britain and Germany. Plus USA comes from time to time. Horrible horrible sex.

Looker
7 Sep 2015  #643

More refugees in Poland? Let's make their life easier.


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Dougpol1
7 Sep 2015  #644

it doesn't give you any rights to have a voice in our affairs.

Of course it doesn't, you are right. That's why I can sit back and watch while you all make yourselves the laughing stock of Europe. It's not down to me and I'm free of all condemnation.

Except that Warsaw gets my tax money and waste it on miners and policeman who retire at 35, when I would prefer a 0.38 percentage to go to humanitarian causes, like Poland agreed to so do.

I don't give to ***** about them

Something tells me that you and your kind don't give a flying **** about anybody, refugee or not :)

gregy741
7 Sep 2015  #645

when I would prefer a 0.38 percentage to go to humanitarian causes, like Poland agreed to so do.

this international aid needs reviewing...just so happen i read in metro today that Britain will reassess those funds cus they being wasted.
just one example Turkey receive money from UK and building strongest and most modern army in Europe in the same time,when UK cutting..and this new leftist leader wants to disband army completely....joke

edrogen must be laughing his ass off

national
7 Sep 2015  #646

while you all make yourselves the laughing stock of Europe.

You don't have any other problems? What makes you think we are concerned about what western hypocrites think and say about us? If they bark and howl it means we must be doing something right.

Except that Warsaw gets my tax money

Easy fix. Leave!

johnny reb
7 Sep 2015  #647

Anyway, soon we can expect plenty of change.

That hopey changey thing has destroyed America in the last 6 1/2 years. Poland does not need or want that kind of change to "enrich" their culture. They have eyes and ears to see what that kind of change does to a nation.

). They are terrified of the prospect of Syrians bringing with them modern, moderate and relaxed interpretations of Islam.

So is Poland terrified like any normal thinking person would be. Facts speak for themselves.
They are seeing how other countries have suffered because of Muslim religion infiltrating.

Get rid of illegal immigrants, get rid of cheap labour.

Cheap labor does not pay for infrastructure, the welfare system, create new jobs, the 1% does that. Cheap labor only sucks the life out of all that slowly.

Those yazidi people got hit hardest by isis war.why nobody taking them?we could take em.some syrian christians and donbass kids.those are ones who need help most

Most intelligent statement yet !!!!!!! Hats Off to You Buddy.

The Syrians who are being welcomed in Europe now are from mostly urban centres which have been/are being destroyed.

Who are the other 65% of them jon ?
Something is very wrong here to have all these Muslims escaping their loving Muslim countries and demanding to live in white Christians countries yet their religion tells them to kill these Christian infidels where they find peace and happiness. They are not happy in their Muslim countries and want to live in non-Muslim countries. Please explain this dilemma.

Remember, Islam teaches to convert ALL to Islam and for those that refuse are infidels and they should be killed.
Is this the hidden agenda of what is going on here maybe ?

Brussels has just decided: 11,500 migrants to Poland ....

So now Brussels tells Poland how to run their country ?
In reality it is just the start of what is to come. Word is out now. Reminds me of the California Gold Rush !
Time for Poland to tell the EU to stuff it.

No. They will find new ones for Poland so that they can reach the 160,000 quota.

Yup. get the foot in the door slowly and then before you know it your country has been tainted with undesirables that bring decease, crime, terrorism and expense.

Again, Poland is the last PURE country in Europe and hopefully they will refuse to be told how to run their country.
They need to exit the E.U. and build a high fence around themselves to keep Poland Polish.
In the near future Poland will be vastly rich with tourism $$$$$ because no one will want to go to the other crime ridden chaos in other European countries because of the "economic refugees" that only bring what they escaped from.

Dougpol1
7 Sep 2015  #648

In the near future Poland will be vastly rich with tourism $$$$$ because no one will want to go to the other crime ridden chaos in other European countries because of the "economic refugees" that only bring what they escaped from.

Don't be silly now Johnny. Here in Gdynia I have to watch where I put my feet, to avoid walking on drunks who are asleep in the street. I would enclose a photo but with my luck it might be a PiS candidate who had a liquid lunch, and he would sue my ass :)

Now we wouldn't have that problem of drunks with Syrians, necessarily.

Tourists wont be flooding Poland anytime soon - especially as Poles have ruined the countryside with their reckless over development.

Wulkan
7 Sep 2015  #649

especially as Poles have ruined the countryside with their reckless over development.

And that's why there is loads more countryside in Poland than in your home UK

Lyzko
7 Sep 2015  #650

Drunks in the streets?? Ha, maybe they're Germans, Swedes, or Irish possibly, perhaps even Dutch, most likely, they're fellow Poles, Doug:-)
Inebriation is not a vice one can expect from Muslim or Jewish migrants! Low-wage labor, yes.
lol

TheOther
7 Sep 2015  #651

most likely, they're fellow Poles

Brits on a stag party... :)

Back to the topic please

delphiandomine
7 Sep 2015  #652

Again, Poland is the last PURE country in Europe and hopefully they will refuse to be told how to run their country.

Johnny... I'm not sure how to explain this to you, but there are plenty of other religions and nationalities in Poland.

They need to exit the E.U. and build a high fence around themselves to keep Poland Polish.

That wouldn't go down well with 99% of people that travel abroad.

I once had to be in Berlin Zentrum (about 160 miles away) within 4 hours. I finished work at 13:00 and had to be there by 17:00 or else. Made it by 16:00. If there was a "big fence" like in the bad old days, I could've been stuck for 1, 2, 3 hours at the border.

Polonius3
8 Sep 2015  #653

are plenty of other religions

No more than 5% all told. If that is "plenty" by your standards, so be it.

Marsupial
8 Sep 2015  #654

Saying plenty there above just shows the extent to which leftards will go to spread their agenda, it's an outright lie.

Wulkan
8 Sep 2015  #655

It shows their double standards, because all they have is abuse.

InPolska
8 Sep 2015  #656

Maybe countries should not be forced to accept migrants but those not accepting should financially help countries which do take in migrants. Poles pretend be scarred of "Muslims" so maybe instead of accepting them in Poland, Poland should help Germany and others (France to take 24,000 and let's notice that Spain, comparable to Poland, shall take many more than Poland). Only fair! Anyway, meeting in Brussels tomorrow.

jon357
8 Sep 2015  #657

instead of expecting Polish people to pay for

You do know that family paid themselves? Maybe not.

so why do I need to pay?

Pay much tax in Poland do you? I do.

Turkey

Remember they don't all go to Turkey (though thousands of Syrians are there already) because there is very little there - why did you go to England and not Romania?

G (undercover)
8 Sep 2015  #658

"Poles pretend be scarred of "Muslims" "

No we're not... scared...

"Poland should help Germany and others (France to take 24,000 and let's notice that Spain, comparable to Poland, shall take many more than Poland). Only fair! "

Or perhaps we should help Hungarians and others to set up a damn external border ? Better late than never.

BTW Do you lefty nutjobs realize that for the cost of hosting in EU one "refugee", the whole bunch of those residing in Turkey could get help ? But you don't give a feck about them just like you don't give a feck about minorities in Syria and Iraq that are being burn alive by ISIS monster, you just want more and more "people of color" in EU, so your unhealthy lefty mind can feel better. Psychos.

"because there is very little there"

That the point, they are not war refugees but friggin economic migrants, illegal ones. BTW do you crowd realize that there is about as "little" in Poland as in Turkey ?

"In what way are Syrian war refugees not Syrian war refugees?"

They stop being war refugees once they reach the first safe country. That's totally basic common sense. Do you seriously want to tell me that in your opinion Japan or Israel should grant asylum to crowds of Donbas people illegally breaking into their countries. If not, where's the difference ?

"Do you realise there's a difference between a refugee camp in Southern Anatolia and an upper middle income country in Europe."

Go check the basic facts, Turkey is a middle income country as much as Poland is. There are actually better employment opportunities in quite a few sectors over there.

jon357
8 Sep 2015  #659

Nonsense, as usual. If they leave a refugee camp and illegally cross the border "seeking better life", they are criminals.

Criminals? War refugees. The authorities in Warsaw described the Armia Krajowa as 'criminals'

Too bad you fools enabling another Hitler rise to power won't be that cool...

Sometimes it's hard to be a fascist...
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G (undercover)
8 Sep 2015  #660

"Criminals? War refugees. The authorities in Warsaw described the Armia Krajowa as 'criminals'"

Nonsense as usual. Yes, criminals. Gerries have been arresting and sending back to Polish "centres for asylum seekers" all those Chechens and others over the years. Now "something" has changed because it's clearly a man designed crisis to destabilize Europe. The big guys decided so and useful idiots like you carry water for them. Just like your type was working for all those Soviet financed "peace movements" during the cold war.


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