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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



White Europe
9 Sep 2015  #721

@Jon357

The real world is very much against this invasion of Europe. The recent poll in which 80% of Poles say they don't want the invaders in Poland confirms this. The real humanitarian issue is preventing Europe from being swallowed up by the third world.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #722

Québec to take in 3,650 refugees by December 2015! Québec does not belong to EU and therefore is not forced to.... Québec makes much more efforts than ... Poland ;)

Also just read that City of Warsaw does not give its ok to fascist march on Saturday! :)

aa11
9 Sep 2015  #723

Poland should leave EU so they don't need to be forced to take immigrants from the german jerk.

Any talk in Poland about Poland deciding to leave European Union if they get forced to take alot immigrants (over 12000)?
If so any source?

mafketis
9 Sep 2015  #724

These right-wing pond-dwellers love to moan about immigration

So now everyone is giving up the pretense that these very fit people outfitted with smartphones are actually refugees and recognizing that they're immigrants who want to jump the line to get to Europe?

The idea with refugees is that they stay in a safe country till their own country is safe at which point they return there. Does anyone think that any of the current wave will ever return?

The rhetoric of humantarian aid for refugees is being used to usher in mass immigration (so that those pesky tax-paying citizens won't complain).

Vox
9 Sep 2015  #725

Yes

Paulina has somebody asked those people whether or not they want to go to Poland? I gather they want to go mainly to Germany, Britain and Scandinavia. That could be a problem.

mafketis
9 Sep 2015  #726

My official position remains the same. Let Poland agree to "accept" as many as the EU says. They'll be out of Poland in a flash.

G (undercover)
9 Sep 2015  #727

"Poland has joined the EU and therefore has to comply to EU's rules and that's all."

"EU" is not some "mighty" self-elected "royalty" but people in the member states and despite the mainstream media showing several lefty clowns 24/7, majority of people in EU don't share your thoughts on this one and become more and more fed up with the whole ****** Brussels circus.

Malopolanin
9 Sep 2015  #728

what about the 116,000+ Polish refugees taken in by ... Iran during WWII? Since Poland does not want any refugees, they'll have to pay and that's all. So just open your wallet! ;)

Iran didn't take in single Polish refugee. It was Soviet Union that resettled them there while occupying northern Iran. Iranian officials were strongly against it. STOP LYING!

Polonius3
9 Sep 2015  #729

out of Poland in a flash

I said exactly the same thing when the whole refugee circus was first being reorted. Poland could accept even 50,000, run them through superficial fast-tracking processing, provide a few basic meals and makeshift overnights and give them a bag lunch for the road.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #730

@Malo: there was an article in GW a few days ago re Iran's taking in 116,000+ Polish refugees and there are at least over 1 hundred articles re topic (only in English language).

Should we organize a poll among Western tax payers, I'm sure close to 99% would be against sponsoring Poland and consorts. Poland and neighborhing countries have cost a fortune to Western tax payers so it's about high time Poland plays the EU game!

EU is not only to receive money, which Poland has never understood.

mafketis
9 Sep 2015  #731

t's about high time Poland plays the EU game!

And how are you going to keep them in Poland with Germany just across an unsecured border?

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #732

They'll be kept and supervized by authorities for a certain period of time. As to those in Germany, three busloads thereof arrived to France this morning.

Don't worry, no refugee would want to stay in Poland any longer than required!

As Junker (normally not my cup of tea) said this morning: there were 20 million Polish refugees taken in by the West. When the West has taken in 20 million Poles, Poland can take in a few thousands.

G (undercover)
9 Sep 2015  #733

"Should we organize a poll among Western tax payers"

Bring it on :))))

"Poland can take in a few thousands."

Can't.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #734

@G: what about returning the hundreds of billions of E already taken and (mis)spent?

mafketis
9 Sep 2015  #735

They'll be kept and supervized by authorities for a certain period of time. As to those in Germany, three busloads thereof arrived to France this morning.

In other words they'll be detained under house arrest. I'm suuuuuure they'll love that.

As Junker (normally not my cup of tea) said this morning: there were 20 million Polish refugees taken in by the West. When the West has taken in 20 million Poles, Poland can take in a few thousands.

And what kind of cultural burden did Poles place upon the west? Did they make weird dietary demands? Did they make weird social demands? Polish culture is very much in line with mainstream western values. Syrian culture..... eh, not so much. I respect a lot of Syrian culture (until a few years ago, despite the harsh rule, about as socially and educationally advanced as the Arab world got along with Tunisia) but that doesn't mean that Syrians will be a good fit in Europe without some pretty strong realignment of their values.

G (undercover)
9 Sep 2015  #736

What about returning hundreds of billions that Tescos, Lidls, Credit Agricoles, Strabags and others made here ? All domestic market based businesses that bring here nothing, only transfer the money out of the country. They would (will) have to pay heavily for the access to the market If Poland wasn't a part of the circus. Get that into your naive head, EU anschlus wasn't any charity, old EUnuchs benefited from that heavily, their own economists say so.

There's a simple solution, just add referendum on this one to the next elections and Junkers can kiss our asses.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #737

@G: and what about the Poles happy to work for western companies? What about the millions of Polish economic emigrants not only to UK but elsewhere in EU?

Nobody forced Poland to join EU so now don't cry!

EU is not only receiving money. Stop having a welfare recipient's mentality!

White Europe
9 Sep 2015  #738

Should we organize a poll among Western tax payers, I'm sure close to 99% would be against sponsoring Poland and consorts. Poland and neighborhing countries have cost a fo

I am against tossing the "refugees" around Europe like a hot potato but rather sending them back to where they came from. I saw this nonsense coming ten years ago when Poland first joined the EU. Here take our money but you must commit racial and cultural genocide against your native population. Sounds like a deal with the devil.

johnny reb
9 Sep 2015  #739

Also just read that City of Warsaw does not give its ok to fascist march on Saturday!

No but they did give the o.k. for the National Radicals to march.
You liberals promote so much bias propaganda.
You call these people fascists that hate yet you liberals hate religious people, conservatives, southerners, country people, capitalists, rich people, soldiers........you bigots you.
They are estimating over 30,000 strong Saturday September 12th in the Warsaw March to show the media that their bias estimates of ant-migrant/refugee Poles are a much much higher percentage then what they are reporting.

Stay strong Poland and let the voice of the people be heard to stop this Trojan horse.

G (undercover)
9 Sep 2015  #740

"Nobody forced Poland to join EU so now don't cry!

EU is not only receiving money. Stop having a welfare recipient's mentality!"

LOL ! Are you slow ? So stop bringing up EU funds again and again. That's how EU works, so stop whinning about one side not mentioning the other.

"G (undercover), when you say "we", who are you referring to?"

Polish voters.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #741

Fortunately some (although very rare) Polish politicians are in favor of refugees and the City of Warsaw has refused to give their ok to the fascist demo otherwise, we could freak out. Completely disgusting to read and hear so much selfishness and hatred and about the welfare recipient's mentality of so (too) many Poles.

Roger5
9 Sep 2015  #742

G, if you think Polish voters want to leave the EU, you need to change your source of information.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #743

@Roger: "the EU soup tastes too god" and you bet, Poland shall never get out ;). How many billions of e has Poland received? When talking to most Poles, it seems to me that they don't realize that all this money comes from taxpayers in Western Europe. In Poland they even have airports with no planes (for instance in Radom) and it's about time that EU investigates about the use ot EU's money.

G (undercover)
9 Sep 2015  #744

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"There's a simple solution, just add referendum on this one to the next elections and Junkers can kiss our asses."

I was referring to the refugees circus here...

"When talking to most Poles, it seems to me that they don't realize that all this money comes from taxpayers in Western Europe. "

Yawn... Still that crap and no reactions to the fact I've mentioned ? No surprising to be honest.

johnny reb
9 Sep 2015  #745

the City of Warsaw has refused to give their ok to the fascist demo

Please post your source to verify this for us or is this just another one of your hoping in one hand.

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #746

@johnny: just check Polish today's news ;)

Crow
9 Sep 2015  #747

Listen then

i told long ago to my Polish sisters and brothers that is west of Europe biggest Poland`s problem. No, i won`t tell that its glad to me for facts becoming obvious. Its not glad to me. i just knew that would Polish awakening be unpleasant and even painful.

johnny reb
9 Sep 2015  #748

there were 20 million Polish refugees taken in by the West. When the West has taken in 20 million Poles, Poland can take in a few thousands

Don't forget that the Poles know how to act and didn't demand the cream of the crop. Big difference then animals throwing feces.

@johnny: just check Polish today's news

Just as I expected, you are blowing smoke because they WERE granted the permission to march In Warsaw Saturday September 12th.
I will wait for you to post a paragraph from the Polish today's news that says otherwise.
Take your time because I am not holding my breath.

edited

InPolska
9 Sep 2015  #749

@Johnny: I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Check for instance GW or tvp.pl info ;)

Polonius3
9 Sep 2015  #750

middle eastern and African hordes

The consensus in Poland and across the EU seems to be that refugees in fear of their lives must be helped, but economic migrants should be sent back where they came from.

The problem is how to separate the grain from the chaff? HOW TO SCREEN THEM? Many have no documents and all claim to be refugees. All are bent on reaching much-longed-for Germany and are reluctant to be processed in other countries. Do host countries have an adquate screening apparatus - people speaking their language and aware of the political situation in each country?

If that separation is not carried out efficiently, soon all of Africa and half of Asia will be heading for Europe.


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