Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

A few hooligans and not to be taken seriously.

Don't shoot the messenger, because this is the take of an edcuated, middle-aged American of Anglo-Franco-Polish ancestry holding an MA in anthropology:

Nothing could be more ignorant, stupid, insane, asinine and suicidal, than to let more moslems into Europe. They should be refused entry and rerouted to Saudi Arabia. This is not compassion, it is cultural and religious suicide for Western Civilization if moslems are admitted in such absurd numbers. The DemoCraps want to let 62,000 into the U.S.A.

Their culture is very different to that place too.


Says it all.

Only small percentage of them are football hooligans and there were "few" thousands of them.

Good morning! My opinion (for the last time), YES, the refugees must be helped not only because their misery results from Westerners (including Poland)'s policies but also it is our duty as human beings but it should be done in an ordely and organized matter, not in a complete bordello like it is now. I have just watched the news; Munich's mayor said it's too much to handle......

It is completely obvious that because of this huge bordello, many who should not claim as (political) refugees sneak in. Are they any sort of controls? I don't know and I don't believe so as it seems that everybody is taken in, they may be economic migrants and worse: terrorists or would be terrorists but apparently Merkel and Co. don't seem to care. Germany has a declining population and by 2030 shall need 6 million extra workers so they look forward to hiring cheap labor....

I am disgusted at the attitude of Arabic countries. Saudi Arabia has space and money. Other Gulf states don't have space but they have a lot of money and what do they do? ???? I read in several medias that Saudi Arabia would offer to build 200 mosques in Germany.

What I have been saying and saying over and over again here, IF EU decides to take refugees in and it does include Poland and therefore Poland shall. No danger that Poland (and other post communist countries) leave EU, they need western money so bad.

To finish, as to yesterday's demos in Poland, the turnout was to be expected. Sorry, but even 10,000 (5,000 in Warsaw) on one side and 1,000 (a few hundreds in Warsaw) on the other side, are absolutely nothing. Yesterday, there were other demos in favor of refugees; in London only a few 10,000's took part and in Rome, only 2,000 people. A few thousands of people in any country are nothing.

YES, we need to help but it has to be done in a coherent and orderly manner. How? I don't know, Merkel and co need to figure it out...

When any refugees in Poland, I WILL help.

So am I.


100% correct.


Terrorist organizations recruit and radicalize directly from Europe - it is faster, easier, more effective and cheaper for them. They are recruiting people from Europe to take to Syria to fight, and not in the other direction.

Important Question: How many terror incidents in Europe (excluding Russia) in the 21st century were committed by terrorists posing as refugees? I can't even find 1 such incident.

I found reference to foreign terrorists posing as tourists (also as sports fans). And they have entered Europe via standard travel means.

The rest were born and/or raised in Europe, recruited in Europe, then radicalized and trained in Europe and/or abroad. Those that have been radicalized and/or trained abroad have always returned to Europe as European citizens via standard travel means in each and every single recorded incident.

Actually, it might happen very soon now that Russia put boots on the ground in Syria.


Unfortunately for you and your genocidal agenda 80% of Poles agree with this group of "a few hooligans." Not to mention the other eastern countries. Like Johnny Reb said, you're living in denial in order to push the racial and ethnic replacement of the very people that allowed your parasitic ass to live in Poland.

Are you seriously saying that Russia would promote Western democracy?


People are people. Why you, a non-European juvenile in a different continent would even need an opinion on Europe is odd.

I'm saying Bashar Assad would regain control of Syria and make it stable again.


There are also distinct races and cultures of people. Different groups that have the right to preserve themselves and their way of life.

I'm European genetically (White) something that you'll never be no matter how long you'll squat on European soil. That being said, I have a much larger right to be concerned with what's happening to my people than you, a foreign alien.

Stable? Is using chemical weapons on people your idea of stable?

Syria was only "stable" before because of brutal oppressions towards anyone that dared to step out of line.


If you're so concerned, why don't you come here? I assume if you're so worried, you'll be happy to help deprived Polish children. What about it?


I took part. It was nice to see that the mayor of Poznań also took part.

Mods, a small question - shouldn't this forum be for people with at least some connection to Poland? Topics like this will always attract the Stormfront-type poster who regards it as his duty to spend all the hours online ranting about race and survival.

I was on the march in Kraków.

Wyborcza says that on the pro immigrant - manifestation was 1,000 ppl. Police says that was about 300 ppl.

Wyborcza says that on the against immigrant manifestation was 300 ppl.. Police says that was about 800 ppl. And I ensure You that there were also falimilies with childrens.

About being "European"

This is simple:

Black - not European
Muslim - not European

ewen If they were born in Europe.

What a strange argument. We could say.

This is simple:

Polish - not Western European
Czech - not Western European

Even if they were born in Western Europe.

Therefore we should discriminate against them because...well, just because.

It`s true. It depends ofc. what is Western Europe. If we understand that termine as :

- the heritage of Rome - then Poland, Germany Scandynavia is not Western Europe;
- heritage of Catholic religion, Roman law influence and Greek philosophy - then Poland is Western Europe;

But. according to geographic knowledge western Europe is:

Spain, Portugal, France, England, Italy. have no problem with that the Poland is not Western Europe. Poland is in Europe and this is fact. But Blacks and muslims are not european.

And if the West wakes up tomorrow and decides that Slavs are untermenschen, you will of course support such a view, right?

Here's a hint : don't go down the road of dividing people according to skin colour or accidents of birth, because one day, you too might be the victim of such profiling.

I never said that blacks are untermenschen. But I think that every nation can rule in his country. Poles in Poland, French i France and so on. Poland is in European Union and we can go to other EU Country. Syria, Libya etc. are not in EU. So they can`t go where they want to. I would like to close the bordesr right now.

And I don`t know why you are talking about slavs. Slavs are european. Blacks not.

So if Poland leaves the EU, you'll support the borders being closed to Poles?

Not making sense, child.


But the whole idea of "European" is just an artificial construct. What's the difference between someone born on the West side of the Ural Mountains and someone born on the East side? None.

As I said, be careful what you wish for. Someone might close the border on you someday.

Ofc. that`s right. And Poland should close the borders to the others then.


I have no problem with that. Europe is not artificial construct. There is big difference between peoples areound the World.

Indeed and German - not Western European, Austrian - not Western European

Central European like Czech and Polish...

Good luck with that, given that Poland needs Ukrainian labour to do the jobs that the Poles don't want to do.


It is absolutely artificial. More to the point, what will you do if Western Europe decides that they are the only real Europeans and that Slavs are Asians? Cry?

You know nothing about my, my age my education. So gtfo with that argumentum ad personam :)


I will do nothing. Why should I cry. Everybody knows that Poland is Europe and nothing will change that. Also nothing will change that blacks are not European.

It's all very cute, but it was only 70 years ago that the Germans had plans to eliminate Poles off the face of the earth, and it could easily happen again. What makes you think that it won't?

There are mentally disturbed people in every country...

@White: of course there are not many of them and I don't have the statistics (am not interested) but believe me, in Polish cities, it's not rare to meet Polish women converted to islam. Are they to lose their Polish passport? What do you also do with Poles who are atheist? Do they also lose their Polish passport? ;)

America would do absolutely nothing to save Poland. They sat by before and they'd sit by again.

read smth about crisis in german army. :) You will be suprised. Europe is still a wasal to USA. They were spy angela without any problems. I` m not afraid of Germany. mhhh i`m sorry afraid of Caliphat of Germany ;P


I had plenty interaction with serbs, hungarians, bosnians even with albanians. Islam is a cancer to Europe.

Germany could still single-handedly destroy Poland tomorrow if she wanted.


Sure you did.

I`m not sure about it. But You can have your opinion. Probably you are conected to the military circle and you know better :)

I do remember reading an article that the Polish foreign minister at that time (or someone else) said "honestly we are involved in Iraq to get access to Iraq's petrol" , since Poland got involved in Iraq's mess.. which led to the creation of Islamic state in Iraq due to the instability of Iraq after the war , which then later transformed into the Islamic state in Iraq and Syria aka ISIS, and people are fleeing this threat by going to Europe, so long story short, Poland has an obligation to accept refugees because Noland took part into making these countries unstable :)

It looks more and more like Germany has realised that Merkel made a massive mistake. They're now suspending Schengen on the Austrian border, and it seems that Germany actually can't cope at all despite the previous comments.

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Where ? In some islamistic news ? The main reason behind Iraq was "let's help Yanks so when Russia go crazy again, they will help us", additionally no one here expected them to make the mess they did. They did a good job with post war Germany or Japan, so perhaps in this case they also know what to do. They turned out to be clueless and only created chaos. That was the lesson learned for Poland, so now we stay away from such nonsense. Poland had nothing to do with Libya or the whole Arab spring.


Better late than never but now they need to cope with the mess they created. Leaving aside all the other issues, Poland is not technically prepared to handle any large number of Arab refugees, for example we would need damn load of "social workers" fluent in Arabic and we don't have them, refugees that have been granted asylum here so far were mainly Russian speakers from the FSU countries.