Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

And all because Germany in particular is bending over backwards (her most charactaristic pose these past decadesLOL) to make up for her awful recent history. And so, the pendulum has now swung nearly full circle, only in the opposite direction.

O, woe is Germany. EUROPA, QUO VADIS?? EUROPO, DOKĄD IDZIESZ??

EVERYONE! Saudi Arabia has finally decided to help Europe with the migration crisis! They offered Germany financial help in building 200 mosques! Why should Germany stop at 800,000 invaders this year? With this new help they can bring over a million easily!

;)

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

BBman, when you get a cance go back three days ago to post #1280.

This invasion of Muslims has gone from;
Poor war torn refugees to
the invasion of economic Muslim opportunists to
Poles who want to fight against the Islaminization of Poland.
I think it is about time to call this invasion exactly what it is.
The Muslim invasion to Islaminize Europe.
Poland understands this and wants no part of it as seen in the 30,000 plus anti-Muslim immigration march last Saturday in Warsaw.
I say this because one of the video's had a pigs head on a pole.
They had 30,000 people jumping as someone with a bull horn chanted "IF YOU DON'T JUMP YOU ARE A GOAT F*CKER !"
Now tell me again that the Polish people don't know what this is all about and the reason they don't want them in their Christian country.

These people need to be placed in countries that speak their own language (Arabic), practice the same religion (Islam), and not force
themselves on countries that do not want them.
Poland should stand strong and exit the E.U. to avoid having their culture destroyed.

30,000+?

Try harder Johnny. The real number was 7,000.


How educated.


I hardly think 7,000 fringe right wingers are representative of an entire country.


I don't think you understand the consequences of that. Here's a hint : Poland cannot afford to reintegrate everyone that left.

But not enough, specially not enough from USA or Not-So-Great Britain. Not enough from the EU States ... imagine if they would unanimously pour to the streets and resist this maddening action?


We call our countries "democracies", thus we are directly responsible for the action our government takes. Are they Dictators? Of course not .... we in fact boast about our liberty and freedom. We even boast on our history and our economic decisions, also our philanthropy. Its not a one way road, so we need to accept the burden of wrong doings by our elected representatives. We are certainly responsible.


I am a Polish. I don't blame you for thinking I was from the UK, as most people in this forum is either from the UK or from the US ... In any case, I did protest but it wasn't significant enough for my circumstances. Therefore, I have personally pledged to support at least 5 refugee families in my city, and I have made my pledge not only in words but in deed.

You ignorant and useless white-pride racism su*ks. This kind of arrogance and hate will be counterproductive and will open the doors for the inevitable that you fight so hard to resist. As long as Europe and the west seek to fulfil their interest in Geopolitics at the cost of the sovereignty and right of other nations, they will have a reaction/side effect. With time these reactions and side-effects will overrun then and they will become fragments of history - only to be studied by future generations just like we study Neanderthals. My spirit up in the heavens that time will be happiest!

"Therefore, I have personally pledged to support at least 5 refugee families in my city, and I have made my pledge not only in words but in deed."

Yeah, you will give them a cookie and next we will all need to cover the real costs.

Try harder yourself because according to all media the number was 10,000 right wingers. Now mind you the media likes to minimize the anti-immigrant protestor numbers. That's not counting the sympathizers that were on the sidelines. So Johnny may very well be right that is was 30,000 people.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugees-crisis-pro-and-antirefugee-protests-take-place-in-poland--in-pictures-10499352.html


Are the 80% of Polish that said they are against the invasion representative of an entire country? I have to ask, are you having some kind of mental conflict? I ask because I have seen you make posts saying that any illegal immigrant in Poland should be arrested yet you make seemingly pro-invasion posts like this.


And Poland can afford to integrate the hordes of "refugees?"

No more than it can afford to accept however many thousands that Angela "Oops!" Merkel and Jean-Claude "I feed on your taxes" Juncker want it to go through the pretense of trying to educate and integrate. Leaving apart the fact that most would scamper toward Germany at the first opportunity even the temporary pretense would be too costly. And... it's the prinicple of the thing, Poland did not join the EU to shut up and follow orders.

There is nothing racist whatsoever in pointing out the complete disaster that's awaiting Germany and any country it can bully into follow its lead....

No. It wasn't '30,000' fascists at all. Fewer than 10,000, and worth mentioning that they only came to annoy people in Warsaw. The people who turned out to express their support for refugees was country-wide.

How much worse can the West embarrass itself. This is a comedy skit

There were no more than a few fascists there...

"The people who turned out to express their support for refugees was country-wide."

And they were outnumbered x times elsewhere too... Vast majority of Poles are against bringing that mess here. Go check the polls, go read comments on the forums, a fact that you even try to make it look like majority here "welcome" these hordes shows that far-leftism is mental illness.

We can't even agree on whether these people are refugees or migrants. Solution? Can't even figure out the question.

For you everyone the the right of a chairman Mao is fascist.

Those people do not want "refugees" for two reasons:
- they are Muslims
- Poland cannot afford Poles and they want to sent in here some Africans, where is sens in that?

So you admit that your protest as a little person did nothing yet you feel the need to self flagellate. Why don't you stop being a Judas to your own people and sponsor some poor Polish families instead?


What you call "racism" and "hate" I consider common sense and self preservation. Why don't you visit some no-go areas of Paris and London and tell me that the Islamization of Poland is a good idea?

The organisers of that silly anti-refugee 'demonstration' in Warsaw certainly were. They are the ONR and are open about their sick politics. They just hate the idea of immigration. They feel threatened by change and basically just like dressing up.

Too bad for them that nobody votes for the candidates they support, hence the throwing toys out of the pram in the street. At least the police stop them misbehaving too much.

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If your nice, clean and tidy flat suddenly became infested with rats, that would probbaly be a change. Or if a boiler factory opened next door, would you accept it with open arms? Not all changes are beneficial. Deliberately importing slums, crime and Muslim xenophobia against the host society is suicide in installments. Deutschland will pay a heavy price for its leader's folly. Geography and relative poverty have saved Poland and other countries from that ordeal. At least for the time being. When Germany goes Muslim, heaven help Poland!

I have seen pictures of that demonstration in Warsaw, seen only people with Polish flags, those on your picture must be from another place or just those three dudes on a picture.


Polonius you are ranting, that is not good for dignity, they could be the most wonderful people in the whole world but they are Muslim and Poland doesn't want Muslims, as it happens even Muslim do not want Poland.

It is Merkel that want to thread her guests as a cattle and send truckloads of them to other countries.

Yes jon, they were 30,000 strong according to several of my friends who participated in the march.
Now neither you or your pet lackey delph were there now were you so you are limited to the government propaganda media that you get in third hand news to satisfy your liberal fantasies.


Very well said as the ones making up these fantasies are not even native Poles and want to dictate their hope and change on Poland.

Or better yet said,



Only a Muslim himself would call this a "silly anti - Muslim demonstration" jon.


Sorry again jon because there was no misbehaving at this march but good try to plant such a seed here for people that didn't know any better.


It would take a blind man not to see that the yU.K., Sweden and France are already well on their way to being Muslim.

Only another Muslim could support such a tragedy.


You can bet that that picture was not taken last Saturday at the march in Warsaw as bad as jon wishes it was.
Mentally ill is becoming more apparent here to promote Islam in Poland and throughout Europe.
We have seen the backlashes of Islamic culture not only in Europe but America too.
Non Islamic countries are no place for Muslims and to put it simply, "They don't want these undesirables infesting their culture just like any Arab country would feel if Christians started pouring into their countries by the millions with their dogs and pigs and alcohol and women that were treated as an equal. What do you think Iran would say if this happened to them ? Ha...haha.....hahahahahaha

Why is this being judged as a one way street of one big pity party fast track and now it is to late they are here program ?

Stand strong Poland and exit the E.U. if that is what it takes before this is jammed down your throats.
Or better yet said,


and to have their culture destroyed.

Well large scale immigration from majority muslim cultures is a known quantity in Western Europe and the overall results are pretty discouraging. Of course there are lots of individual success stories but these take place against even larger backgrounds of failure and dysfunction despite the huge amount of resources poured into the enterprise.

You might argue that it's all the fault of the host societies but even if that were true the basic results remain unchanged and very unlikely to change in the near future. Why keep pushing a failed experiment?

Does anybody know or ''heard'' of a friend, relative etc... who's a Christian, say they are emigrating to a Muslim country ??? I'm guessing the answer is no, I wonder why. Could it be culture, exclusion, religious differences, I think all of them plus others. As I said in an earlier post, last year some of these countries were executing Christians in public yet now they want to live among us.

Good point by johnnyreb, imagine if 1million Polish (for example) Christians decided to move to Iraq, what do we think would happen? Bacon sandwich and a beer please, what !!!!! off with his head. How dare you even consider giving your daughters an education, they should be married at 12 to some old guy.

This madness by Merkel is a classic case of closing the gate after the horse has bolted.

Recent pictures have shown the state of the places these people have passed through, looks like a waste land, and they complained on Lesbos when told by the police to pick the rubbish up.

So if they are caught trying to get into Hungary illegally they get arrested, hmmm, jail or detention centre, hmmm, dry, warm, water, toilets, 3 meals a day maybe, let me think about it.

The main places these people get into Europe is Italy or Greece, why not stick a great big fence on the beaches of these countries, or some big scary looking ships and when you see a rubber boat leave Bodrun or elsewhere just grab it and take it back, simples.

What are we talking about ? Guarding external border is one of the basic functions of the state.

Just heard: Germany plans to have EU subsidies cut off to those not taking in refugees. You can bet that "money talks" and Poland shall take in refugees ;)

They should start with Denmark then:
The Danish government has placed advertisements in Lebanese newspapers aimed at deterring potential migrants.

bbc.com/news/world-europe-34173542


I have a question has your country give back all those money from the Marshal Plan? France didn't realty deserve that money as for the most of the war they have been allied to Germany and Hitler.

Poland didn't see a penny and now you dare to take that tone? Disgusting!

@Iron: learn how it works in the EU (Denmark, Ireland and GB have "particular' status) and about history. Poland shall have to take in refugees and whatever you write in PF (and elsewhere) won't change the deal.... You can be sure that to Junker and Co, you are nothing

Everybody knows that Poland will take refugees. Not therefore "money talks" but therefore we should help peaple who escape from war zones. Probably majority of Poles want to help. ( including me)

But I bet that Poland will not take ecnomical immigrants.

And I bet that majority of those refugees diseapear in few months.:).

InPolska, I know and I always knew how it all works and what the EU stands for and that is the reasons that I have been consequently against participation of Poland in that organization which take Poland and generally eastern Europe as their own new colonies.

To that I show a middle finger and try to open eyes of those of my countrymen who are less worldly and not that bright that leaving EU is a must.


It only means that people will have to learn the hard way what whats.

@Jeden: good from you!:) I believe some Poles are willing to help but more as private individuals rather than as a nation. I believe that the huge majority of Poles are against Poland's taking in refugees and that's the reason why the current government is stuck. If the Polish government says yes to EU's demand, PO shall collpase on October 25. After October 25, situation won't change since PiS is strongly against refugees' taking in.

Maybe people in Poland as private citizens (including me) can help refugees. I don't believe Poland as a nation will.

Maybe people should get into associations and start to help (I will too).

Have you been to Dubai at any time in the past couple of decades? Full of Europeans living there permanently. They've got Waitrose and Fortnum & Mason now.

People from Europe do emigrate to Muslim countries, just as people from the Middle East come to Europe. And the current refugees who will make Europe their home will settle down as well as anyone.


Money does indeed talk.

actually now I think of it yes, I do have friends who work in eg Oman, Dubai etc.

Maybe I missed something but I thought we lived in Europe, not the united states of Germany, all I'm reading and seeing is, Germany have said this, Germany going to do that.