Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Majority of Poles want to help ( as a country) but help refugees not immigrant. Unfortunetely Germany an co wants to Poland take what they want. There will not be agreemant on that. We can help taking refugees espescially christians. UE says that is racism and muslims are really fine and cousing no problems.

We should tell then that if muslims are super and ok so we let germany take them. We will take christians :)

And this should be a deal. Take it or not.

BTW: there is no legal possibility to cut EU subsidies without suspend Poland in EU. So germany can talks talks talks.

@Jon: don't expect miracles in this part of Europe! ;). I believe SOME Poles are willing to help as private citizens. The Polish government has their hands tied mainly because of the upcoming election. If the Polish government accepts Junker's demand, PO may be not in Sejm on October 25.

Why not having associations throughout Poland whereby private citizens can help? Although I'll be busy as a bee as of next month with work, I mean to get involved and I'm sure there are ways I could help....

Exactly. That is why they think they can ignore the wishes of the people.

@Avalon: unfortunately Juncker is not the only one! I could say 99.99% of politicians are the same, although 100% would be more accurate ;)

I didn't expect EU-nuchs to show their true colors so openly. It's great :))))

The government will resist valiantly, lose the election anyway and the ghastly PiS will just cave in noisily.

I'm wondering how I can help refugees who've come from the Middle East to Poland too. We already do some things for people who've fled the war in the Donbass. I suspect there'll be plenty of work to do...

Like a good lefty do-gooder invite a refugee fmaily to share your flat and put your money where your mouth is.

Why the aggression, Po3, why the aggression?

By the way, I've accommodated refugees in the past and most probably will again. Perhaps you would do well to follow the church's teachings on this matter.

Remember, I still have my old place further down your street and when the current tenant leaves, I may offer it free of charge for a few months to some families in need.

@Jon: let's face it! Poland (and neighboring countries) have no habit of cohabiting with "different" people and of helping foreigners and that most Poles are against current refugees is totally "normal" and to be expected. I don't know anyone here in favor of taking in refugees and I'm talking about urban educated well off traveling people, most often voting for PO so I don't want to even think how people in Polka B feel about situation...

I was not even aware of the "pro" demo and found out on Saturday night. It shows that there are very few of them and very discrete since their demo was not announced to the general public. If I had known, of course I would have gone.

Of course, it is difficult, if not impossible to help right now but when a few (let's not expect many, if any) start arriving in Poland, I expect some associations to start helping with for instance food, clothes, money..... collecting and taking in volunteers to help refugees move around... I am personally not connected with any association and never have been but I am sure it won't be difficult to find them through the net ;)

I believe that because of the election, the Polish government cannot even accept a mere dozen refugees. Most Poles are against and as politicians, the Polish government think in terms of their political careers.

"let's face it! Poland..."

Oy ! So aren't Gerries and all others finally closing the borders ? Too bad they started to share are opinion on this one that late.

This is the key. A basic lack of savoir faire.


Same here, however I suspect we will see more actions in support of the humanitarian aid, especially when the churches get involved.


Exactly. The PM will be very careful and moderate in this and will be seen as the hero of the moment. They'll lose anyway and PiS will be the ones who are seen to make a disaster of it, something which everyone expects them to make about everything, rather like last time.

Nah.its not how it works.good lefties are only good on forums.and stay away from multikulti slums.

Your own words. The majority are wrong and you are right. You share the same views as the unelected EU commissioners. Its this arrogance that will see the downfall of the union.

@Jon: I found out on Saturday night in .... PF ;) but I had known about the "anti" since the beginning. I admit I don't watch Polish tv channels and only (sometimes) read the first page of main newspapers so I find out about things through people I know and through ads/posters that I see on the streets. There was absolutely nothing re the pro demo. Nevertheless even if it had been widely publicized, very few people would have shown up. According to what I have seen (in the media) some left wing radicals, some (sincere or publicity seeking?) celebrities and some very young people. I have read the anti plans something on Sept. 26 so MAYBE the pro shall react (I'll keep an eye and an ear opened).

For sure, PO doesn't want to take risks in the upcoming election.

Although I disagree with Poland's reaction, I am not shocked because their reaction is completely normal as per their vision...

There has been welcoming demonstrations in many major Polish cities. Wroclaw, Poznan, Lodz, Krakow, Czestochowa, Szczecin. People were carrying signs with many welcoming sayings on them but one sticks out the most: Gość w dom, Bóg w dom.

Trust the vision of the Polish people, they do not want to end up with this problem:-

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/migrants-uk-overview

This in a space of 20 years is seen as population replacement. Polish people are correct to fear this.

That's wonderful really. I hope we see more than this.

We won't :))))

I doubt that. Gość w dom, Bóg w dom

I suspect the role of the church will be key here, especially in Poland B.

The Church has nothing to say on this one.

That would certainly be a first.

:-D

Dream on. It was 7,000 as announced by the city, with 10,000 being the number from the organisers. Right wing marches traditionally have had over-inflated numbers in Poland, hence the truth is likely to be no more than 8,000.

As for "those on the sidelines", really, do stop clutching at straws :)

if the Church wants to help refugees, of course it'll only help hose who are Christians, who have blond hair, blue eyes, who are X and who are not Y. I seriously doubt that the Church shall help all the others (the most numerous).

I read today that the Pope himself warns about the danger of letting everyone in as he fears terrorists to sneak in so I very much doubt that the Church shall be very opened...

Actually the church has already spoken in favor of helping, even if quietly and on small scale.

Another interesting thing I read in Arabic social media today, of the last 32,000 applications for asylum that were processed in Germany, made by people claiming to be Syrian, about 18,000 were turned down because they lied on the application (stated Syria but came from somewhere else). Unfortunately I can't link this here but I am sure it will be talked about in mainstream media sooner or later. Now the question is, how the people that lied will be dealt with...

Are you trying to deny that vast majority of Poles are not too happy with the recent invasion and how the EUnuchs "handle" it ?

One thing that is a mystery to me is that there's no real opposition to taking Christian refugees. Why the hell is Germany trying to push for everyone when the countries in opposition could just take Christians and everyone is happy?

Has anyone invaded Poland? Recently, that is...

@Delph: if you listen to Poland, Slovakia and consorts, they "might" do with only .... Christians (Slovakia "might" accept 200 of them, how "generous"! ;)) and f...ck all the others! For them, there is a hierachy in suffering.... Believe me, tears and blood are no different....

I know and understand, but I think part of the EU being a union is that we understand their hopes and fears - and understand that they are different to our own. So Germany really should respect their wishes.

"Slovakia "might" accept 200 of them, how "generous"! ;)) and f...ck all the others!"

Anything more than 0 is generous. Why ? Because: 0 of these people would apply for a refugee status in Slovakia. And If they did, they could (and basically should) be sent to back to the safe country they came from - Turkey. EUnuchs with all their irresponsibility, manufactured this crisis. They deserve no help.


Like I said before, there's likely more to it than foolishness. One theory might be that Gerries/EUnuchs want to "test" "Eastern Europe" before coming up with something totally different and trying to force it down on us.