Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Perhaps Poland should set up a Syrian Resettlement Corp, open Syrian Displaced Persons Camps and then pass a Syrian Resettlement Act?

What I'm concerned about is the ... calendar. If current government accepts to take in refugees, they won't come before several months (need first of all to determine quotas on EU's level and not easy ;) then to organize things) so won't the next governement cancel deal? I read that first refugees would arrive in Poland in ... April 2016.

@rozumiemnic

These people are not true war refugees, they are economic migrants or for a better word scroungers. Please open your eyes to the situation.

They "shop" for the best country to get benefits.

express.co.uk/news/world/605252/Migrants-Denmark-Finland-Sweden-Marwen-el-Mohammed-TV2-News-Immigration-Refugee

@InPolska

Please read the article I posted. It's quite a bit more than 100 PLN a month.

"The magistrate will grant them housing, they will give them a half a year pay out benefits. This month the amount of 2.5 thousand PLN for one family."

no YOU open YOUR eyes. FFS yes there will be some who will take advantage of the situation.
People don't put their kids on boats and then walk across Europe for some kind of fun you know.
We have a war refugee situation, right now and all people are doing are bleating about 'economic migrants'.
Kind of reminiscent of 70 odd years ago no?

Almost all of them want to choose the countries to stay in.

This video which has already been linked to has some great comments.

liveleak.com/view?i=f80_1442348740

If it's true that these refugees entering Poland would go to the front of the line for medical care I am utterly disgusted. My own mother has been waiting for a hip operation for 3+ years. Hopefully she will get it next year. Some old Syrian woman just showing up and jumping to the head of the queue is absolutely no right.

Tamarisk you do realise that you are talking the way some old British people talk about the influx of Poles and others into the UK? Do you see the irony at al?

@rozumiemnic

Disclaimer, I am British.

Just not sure what your motives are. Have you welcomed refugees into your own home? Fed them at your own table. Given them money out of your own savings. Because if enough of these scroungers show up, that's what it will eventually become. The vast majority of these people are young men. They need to be sent packing back to Syria (or wherever they came from) and told to fight for their own countries - in the case of Syria. I want no part of these "mo slums" because that's all they will bring to Europe.

As for Poles in the UK, there's another time and place for that discussion.

I agree it is tricky tamarisk. My neighbour has signed a petition to say he would take in a family but I have not.
And it IS the young men that are the problem. Yet think back to the 'Kindertransport' that Britain is so self congratulatory about now.
Yes a few Jewish kids were taken in and their parents were left to perish.
Now if someone asked me if I would take in refugees, I might just find myself saying 'ooh just a child'.
At the moment we are just doing clothes collections and taking them to the drop off point locally.
I certainly don't have any savings

All British and Poles are hard workers then per-se? How do we know these people are scroungers? If you had been around in the 1970s then you would know the story of the Ugandan Asians, who came to Britain in their hundreds of thousands.

I well remember the DM and other rags calling them scroungers... and were they?

We see you've been doing your homework from reading the Daily Express...... QED on your level intelligence of questioning the real facts then!


Fair play to you R. I have an empty property, but in a particulary nasty part of Dabrowa G. I fear the feral locals might kill them and cook them on their illegal grills, but will look into the situation.

Electioneering Prime Mminister Ewa Kopacz is torn over the refugee question between European Union pressure and voter expectations. Her Civic Platform party's largely pro-EU and refugee-friendly electorate alone cannot ensure the party's victory in the 25th October election, and the general public mood is opposed to EU-imposed refugee quotas. To pacify her PO faithfuls Kopacz has been attacking her chief rival, the conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, as "xenophobic and anti-European". But to appease undecided voters, she has taken a hard line on the automatic refugee quotas the EU wants to impose on individual countries. According to PiS, Kopacz's government "has no right to take decisions which may adversely affect the Polish people's freedom and security without their consent."

I'm far from being naive and I know that EU (not only Poland but all EU countries) cannot receive all migrants/refugees and so forth and therefore they should be screened. Only those who are truly escaping war should be accepted but it seems that they are not screened. Yesterday I was watching tv and among crowds in Croatia (which now claims that they cannot handle so many whereas only yesterday they were welcoming everybody ;)) there were a lot of .... blacks (= Africans ;). Of course, Europe (except for a few countries) is very attractive but no European country can take in all the world's misery. I read in GW that in Germany they lack hundreds of thousands of flats.... In the other countries, the situation is the same.

Of course Germany has made a huge mistake but since they want migrants as Germans don't have kids and German economy shall need 6 million workers by 2030, why not helping them to move to Germany? Germany cannot disturb the whole continent because of once again their greed. What we see on tv looks surrealist! Instead of having those refugees/migrants cross Europe on foot, why can't EU organize buses, trains to transport them to Germany?

If Poland has to, they will take in a few migrants but what I would like to know is about their stay here. What does the government plan? They need flats, food, health care, Polish lessons, trained clerks and teachers, allowances as they won't get jobs.

Inviting desperate people and to offer them nothing after they have arrived makes no sense and is irresponsible and crual from authorities.

I have heard a lot about what German and French authorities mean to do concretely (259 million euros and 77,000 flats in France) but nothing re Poland. Now EK says "I want refugees" but what the hell does she plan to offer them? Also, should PiS came to office on Oct. 25, the idea shall collapse so for me, EW is not serious ......

Right :))) You've just begun to see what people here have been saying since weeks...


Likely nothing. We are not ready to help these people starting from communication issues, government has hardly any Arabic speakers and majority of these people are not fluent in English, German or any other language that is widely spoken here. Let's say some of these people are forced to come here... what If they get sick ? They will talk to a Polish doctor in Arabic ? It's madness.


No kidding :))) ? PO people know they will lose next elections so they just think how to keep that little support they still have, so they figured out that making this issue "they backward xenophobes vs us modern Europeans" - should help them to keep several % of those most tree-hugging voters. It's that pathetic. This is a crisis manufactured by several groups of "elite members" and they don't give a feck about "poor refugees", they just think how to benefit from it.

So now, Polish government wants to take in refugees but what is their plan? Such a mesure must be seriously organized? Or is it only bs since they know that a PiS government shall cancel the whole deal?

@ Tamarisk

You left Southern California [40% White] to live in Virginia [70% White]. How open minded of you.

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I also lived in Southern California. San Diego to be exact, advertised as THE FINEST CITY IN AMERICA.

Which is why the word "Racist" has absolutely no affect on me. I lived next door to undesirables. I experienced first hand that not all cultures are created equal. I lived the plight of multiculturalism. Which is exactly why I returned to Europe. I will die fighting before I allow Polska to emulate the West.

... these "refugees" are just looking for a free ride in Germany. And Germany is one country in Europe, it does not encompass or represent all European culture. Poland or Hungary doesn't have such a cushy welfare system. I will like to see the Germans support one million non-producers indefinitely. That's just the number that is expected to flood in this year

I'm not saying anything, other than the fact that you don't seem to understand that Europeans have far more of a social conscience than Americans. That's why you think that people should have to earn basic things to live, whereas we think that everyone should be helped with the minimum in life.


The same system applies in many other countries.


Both of them have support for the lowest in society, and Hungarian welfare benefits are actually quite generous. Your American ideals simply don't apply in most of the continent.


Except most of them will end up in work, because the German welfare system works that way. Try reading about it sometime on forums other than Stormfront.


And their democratically elected leader chose to invite them.

Remember, this is our continent, not yours.

You aren't deciding anything. Wealthy politicians that will never interact with these refugees......are deciding

Elections in 1 month. Bye bye whatever was left of Liberal Europe.

May I remind you that there are 27 other countries in the EU, and the matter is decided by qualified majority voting.

It's pretty clear that the recent mellowing by the Government is due to the fact that Poland is terrified of losing EU cash. The opposition won't change a damn thing.

Oh really, so a poor Polish citizen can get an apartment, free food, and healthcare? I would like like to see proof of this as everything I heard has been to the contrary. And no, I won't take your word for it.


That's why they demand to go the country with the most generous welfare, just so they can work. You seem pretty obsessed with Stormfront. Been reading up Goldstein?


Just so happens that the ratings of this "leader" have been plunging lately. In fact, there was a recent poll that said 71% of Germans are against the invasion. The actions of Merkel are opposite of what the German people want.

No thanks...
You likely left America because of all the rednecks who can't tolerate " them pesky Polack's". This back up my assertion that immigrants are the worst racists. You somehow thought you were superior other races of immigrants. Ridiculous

Here is one Muslim in Poland already making demands. Imagine what 100,000 can do.
https://polishforums.com/life/poland-muslim-areas-69612/

I think you need to start by learning Polish rather than reading some silly internet forums.

Anyway, it's all here. euro.centre.org/data/1214556025_97670.pdf - as you can see, Poland has plenty of non-contributory welfare schemes. The amount of money isn't high, but it certainly provides a safety net.

Do try harder.


This is exactly it. Germany will allow them to make a start. Poland may detain them for months until their claims are assessed. There's your difference. As for Stormfront, can't you just go back there and leave us alone?


Sorry, but Merkel is still by far the most powerful person in Europe.

Yes, of course. Mieszkanie komunalne i socjalne, rent


Doesn't everyone? All civilised countries have free healthcare.


Do you honestly think that capable and educated people with get-up-and-go risk their lives fleeing as refugees from a war zone, travelling on foot and riding on buses for two thousand miles just to get some extremely parsimonious handouts in a country to which they've never been?


Exactly, and the extremist anti-immigration clowns are on the fringes and will be in a year's time too...

Shows that he doesn't understand the slightest thing about the welfare safety net in Poland.


Indeed. It's the American mentality again - he just cannot understand why the most vulnerable in society have healthcare provided to them, because it isn't provided in the US.


Indeed. Even PiS are not so stupid as to risk losing a considerable amount of cash for the sake of a few migrants that will vanish anyway.

Every 1 in 637 people are homeless in Poland.
There are about 160 000 malnourished children between the age of seven and 12. For about 70 000 children a free meal in school is their only meal.


Shouldn't Germany share their wealth with her neighbors first before inviting all other continents to their table and they try bulling tactic to make all other EU countries follow their suit? Rationality is not strong suit of Germans, but that have though that do like to obey law, seems not any longer. not if unlawful actions suits them.

That's quite a small number in many ways. How would the source of that figure define 'homeless'?


Normal enough. Should be free for all kids and compulsory. And this is no reason to duck ones responsibilities in the current humanitarian crisis with the war refugees. Two wrongs do not make a right and very sad that you would even suggest that...

Unfortunately, from what I understand, the vast majority is due to alcoholism. And yes, I agree that not enough money is spent on fighting it.

One issue in Poland is that homeless shelters are off-limits to those abusing alcohol or drugs.


Yes, it's a complete disgrace. Unfortunately - again - it's substance abuse and neglect to blame. I know people that work with such children, and drug/alcohol abuse is almost always to blame.

The UK has similar problems. It's sad when you realise that potatoes cost as little as 0,70zl at times (or even less if you buy in bulk) and seasonable vegetables can be had for around 3zl/kilo at the most, yet kids are still going hungry through neglect.


I think pretty much everyone is confused by Merkel and the German Government's actions. It doesn't make sense to anyone - no-one would object to a few thousand Christian refugees turning up, but this "come one, come all" policy is just mindblowingly stupid, and it seems that even the Germans have realised it.

First of all Goldstein, I never objected to Poles or Germans in need getting help from their respective governments. I asked why some migrant who illegally crossed into a country and never paid a cent in taxes or any other contributions is entitled to such benefits? He's not.

Secondly, my point remains that the Polish welfare benefits are paltry as confirmed by your own link.

Finally, non-producers in the US are rewarded thanks to programs like Obamacare.

Did he have a job? Or was he just a previous migrant.