Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

I'm an Arab, and I hate Arabs, been living with them for 25 years, 25 years of sufferings.

Everyone is basically a thieve, everyone wants to steal everyone, everyone wants to scam everyone, everyone hates everyone, very hypocrites, today they are your best friends only to steal, scam or betray you tomorrow. I got sick of them until I started to hate my own race unfortunately. That's why there is an ultimate unrest in the Arab world, not because of the western intervention, but because Arabs are very very rude, everyone wants to rule, everyone wants to be a government official only to steal.

Look at what Arabs have caused in Sweden, once an elite country, it has become like a junk yard these days, Swedes are very nice and tolerant, but they did an extremely bad mistake by accepting Arab refugees, who started to cause chaos, got involved in drug trafficking and mafia. Swedes can't walk peacefully in their own country, even the police have become unable to get involved in Arab streets and residencies, they want to apply their own law. Rape crimes are now higher than ever in Sweden only because of barbaric dirty Arabs.

Arabs have an extremely dirty mind, they think that every non Muslim has to die, and they are superior to all races, yet they are the worst of the worst. Europe is very tolerant with it's democracy and human rights, Arabs take advantage of this and act very nicely, but as soon as they immigrate, and finally taste human rights, they become tyrant and bite the hand that fed them and saved them from hell. Look at Belgium, once a great country, now became like a third wold battlefield. They want to enforce their own law. Arabs are like cancer, they destroy every country they go to.

I have one thing to tell you you Poles, Poland is getting better and better, slowly but steadily. Don't care about the EU or Germany, keep your country clean of this cancer and don't go the west's way and destroy your beautiful, peace country.

Want to know what have Arabs caused to Europe, just look for Islamization of Sweden/Belgium.

Also, if you accepted 20.000, then they will get all their relatives and fellows to Poland. I have seen some statistics today which revealed that only 20% of all refugees are from Syria, I myself (being an Arab) have spotted many non-Arab speaking guys between the refugees, mostly from Afghanistan, Pakistan...and even from Morocco, what a shame. And also, if they were really refugees and fleeing war, they should have remained in the first safe (Turkey is pretty safe and welcoming) and not coming all the way to the EU seeking welfare and European living standards. Another point, most refugees are men between 18-40 which account for 72%, they are seeking the destruction of Europe and not fleeing war.

I'm with diversity and tolerance, but within the limits. Countries like Poland, and generally all European countries need well educated people and not criminals, and all immigrants have to be checked, their background well verified for criminal acts prior to enter Europe.

I'm a Muslim by the way, and Islam doesn't have anything to do with these criminals, it's all about peace and love. My heart is really bleeding for Europe which will face it's demise because of these parasites. Sorry for the lengthy post.

Welcome PowerShakher,

Very few Poles are against ALL immigration. But if one wants to immigrate to Europe they should be qualified: educated and speaking the native language. I'm currently in California forced to learn German before I immigrate.

Arabs in Europe get a bad rep because of the uneducated and lazy that also made their way in. I hope this works out, for all of us but it's not looking good.

Thanks Shak - powerful and true words. Very good point about relatives joining these 'migrants' within a couple of years - once they get residency in Poland it's only a matter of time when they can bring all their relatives, legally. Your statements confirm that in the typical Arab world you cannot easily follow your dreams of working hard and trying to make it better for your family because you'll get robbed or mocked by those who don't value your views/hard work / ethics /etc. Many Poles (progressives / liberals) still don't understand it but there will be a time when they may.

all in all, not good.

Europe changing into something else, while nobody ask us.

No one is asking the citizens of these Multi-cultural nations either. . . . .

But ya, the West will continue trying to manipulate Polska into their image.

but especially Poland won`t be asked.

if Poland stays within EU, being vast border region closest to Russia, west of Europe will fill it with all imaginable multiculti beings in order to `strengthen` the region, in offensive and defensive sense, to weaken Slavic element in Poland to the maximum and extinction.

Think now of this

Almost nobody in Slavic countries speaks of rising number of people, of increase of population by strengthening of family values and creating environment to stimulate families to have more children. No, voices that suggests not to have children, voices that fights for LGBT population rights are louder. Voices that suggests multiculturalism are louder. Voices that prepares us for increase of population by necessity to accept more newcomers are louder.

So, what is this? Are we guests in our own countries? or worse, are we nothing?

Look how much territories in Europe and Eurasia controls Slavic governments. So much but Slavs are very few in numbers. With that much territory, one would ask why don`t Slavic governments start to stimulate birthrates more aggressively, even by creating ideologies that stimulates birthrate. But no, Slavs import other values and continue to decrease in number.

Now, when we failed to organize our world, strangers are coming. We greatly failed, in our divisions

There was suffering before the Syrian migrant and there will be suffering after.

Our focus is the Ukraine. The West seems to have a hard on for the Middle East, spending so much time there. . . . ..

Ukraine?

Duda`s suggestion for Intermarium gave many answers. Poland`s reasons aren`t same as the reasons of the western Europe. Poland would want sustainable border with Russia, meaning, sustainable border between Eurasian Union and emerging Intermarium. Meaning, what is now Ukrainian Black Sea most probably goes to Eurasian Union. Poland should focus on other areas.

On the global strategic plan, i have opinion that USA and Russia gets closer, what suits Poland but not to western Europe. USA and Russia would focus on combined resistance to world terrorism and, i am sure, rise of Intermarium suits them. Intermarium would essentially weaken west of Europe and provide advantage to USA and Eurasian Union in a consolidation of powers in multi-polar world. EU would be finally openly transformed into something primarily Germanic (and multiculti).

i don`t know for you people but, i am quite aware that we live in historical moment when Russia`s arguments won over the arguments of EU, USA and NATO. They were for uni-polar world and Russia (same as former Yugoslavia and now Serbia) suggested multi-polar world. Same way as so called west won over Soviet Union, today we see that Russia won over opposition. We will and we do have multi-polar world. That`s how was possible for Duda to come with idea of Intermarium, after all.

How multi-polar world became obvious fact, USA shifting its loyalties and think of itself. Situation opened space for Poland to distance itself from western Europe.

Refugees? They are tool of changes same as all of us. We all live globalization.

Clubs don't do that.


I've been in Polishforums for about 7 years, that's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Congratulations mate :)


What about atheist refugees?
Or Buddhists?
Why bring religion into it? We all know that all religions are bulls!it.

That's a post-religious mindset that's common in western Europe and making inroads in Poland. It's not the mindset that the migrants are bringing with them. To the majority of them, other religions are bullshtt and there's is divine revelation and the fact that western europeans are so willing to accomodate them is just proof of how right their religion is.

My friend works for Lech Poznan and thats what he told me.I dont say the way they do is right or wrong Its just what i have heard from a few sources


I told you simple logical things You would like to eat a cake and have a cake at the same time You can try to help them all thats fine for me Just one more dumb person without money in future and its good for GDP as 30 ,in same cases even 50% goes to charites employees They will know better than you how to spend money Thats for sure

Another good thing is that if you read more about economy or Islam you may become only smarter
You seem to be a person who has a lot of courage in internet but so scared to go out when there are "hooligans" on the streets I wonder what would you do if there would be regular fights between them and refugees (and this is very likely to happen ) People like you are first to help but when there is the danger they run away as fast a possible and leave a mess

Anyway from now i am going to ignore all of your messages You act like a troll You speak like an ignorant and provoke as many people as you can Want to help and love but hate everyone here Wont waiste any energy talking with you anymore

Its the countries that are aggressively trying to topple Assad that should take the refugees and not Poland.
They think that once a dictator goes everything will be nice. ISIS is not nice and were funded and aided by several countries including the US and Saudi Arabia. They dont like Syria or Iran. Syria and Iran stand against both Israel and Saudi Arabia (and perhaps Turkey).

Those who are aiding the rebels should welcome the refugees and stop demanding others do so for them.

Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs

youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

This is an informative demonstration & explanation on Immigration and World Poverty. I do not want to spoil it but it also hints at the problem in Poland: smart and driven are leaving instead of staying and improving.

Your betrayal, today, in the JAI Council became legendary. Thank you for the islamisation of Europe! Polska! Now I'm on topic for sure!

As a Pole I can only say: TRAITORS to G4. I am ashamed for polish goverment.

Or perhaps it's a masterstroke by Poland? Agree to take them, look good in Europe's eyes and then turn a blind eye as they vanish in the night...

There's some murmurings on Twitter that Poland might have accepted something that wasn't the original plan. I wonder if Poland hasn't extracted some financial concessions from Germany?

Come on man lay off Poland, fact is peasants and nobodies are in charge in Poland. They are acting against will of the people and against interest of Poland as well. Watch out what you saying paisano, capisce?


Do you think that Merkel and douchebags in the EU didn't prepare a plan for such a eventuality?

yes...refuse quota system, forced on us by germans

I wouldn't really be too surprised if the war-time slogans Poles scralwed on city walls walls "Deutschland kaput!" doesn't materialise in one way or another as a result of the refugee crisis. Frau Merkel may have bitten off more than she can chew and digest. The unending flow of humanity may well turn out to be overwhelming to cope with.

I actually agree - I don't think Germany can cope at all, and many countries will just turn a blind eye to anyone heading towards Germany to work illegally. I don't know if you follow German politics, but there is a party called Alternative für Deutschland that only just missed getting into the Bundestag in 2013. It could well be that such a party might attract a lot of voters from Merkel's CDU.

Poland should work more with V4. German leaders shouldnt be forcing others to follow them.

"Well now that Russia is in the midst of a HUGE build up in Syria things may be changing soon."

Hopefully Russia wipes out ISIS. those terrorists have done too much damage and worsened the immigration scenario.

delphiandomine

gregy741 - one thing baffles me.why this stupi Kopacz bothered to organize and take part in V4 group recently?and then stab them in the back.what that stupid game for?

Have you got any idea what Poland actually agreed to? No? So why are you making such comments?

No, we don't know what was agreed. One politician can be mistaken. But Hungary, Slovakia and Czech prime ministers said that V4 agreed on United front and refusing dictatorship of EU. All three of them were convinced that they are United V4. So either all three are stupid and imagined things, or Poland lied and betrayd them.

You can see on news and internet how big problems they have with imigrants in Germany, England, France, Belgium, Sweden (rape, abuse, demolitions, unemployment, etc.) and now you jeopardize slavic nations. We had transitional time for free movement, we have worse food from supermarkets, they returned gypsies that emigrate, lower incoming, same prices. Eastern block is just for bigger reach to Russia. They never treated esterners as equals, but now they said take people you didn't invite, because what we must equally share our burdens.

Congratulations to Ewa Kopacz. This is statesmanship, and ensures that Poland and Poles are respected in the European community, as is this country's rightful status.

Until PiS set about making the country a laughing stock again of course. Some people have no self respect, and I feel shame and embarrassment for my family that those dark days are set to come back.

In the meantime, Poles prove their moral superiority again over the racist and insular Czechs, and we should celebrate.

this time we will have partners - Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians, maybe even the Baltic States

Check this out:


zmianynaziemi.pl/wiadomosc/niemcy-zdecydowali-o-umieszczeniu-czesci-uchodzcow-w-dawnych-nazistowskich-obozach-koncent

"German ministry said that to Buchenwald will go mainly refugees from Eritrea and Algeria."

So.... they're not Syrian war refugees, after all, are they?

Regardless, I wonder if they realize how macabre and morbid the decision to put refugees/migrants in nazi concentration camps.

Oh good we can get live camp tours, who wants to see an.old building.

Well, considering the POLISH government once, and not all that long ago, seriously thought of razing Auschwitz-Birkenau and erecting a disco(!!!!!!), I'm really not surprised:-)

With the rise of a frighteningly disturbing Pegidist-Piraten mentality afoot now in Germany, things are (not so) slowly going from bad to worse than even imagined, as the Merkel-Gauck team is starting to be consigned to the trash heap of just so much "kumbaya-60's-style Western liberalism" as many in the Federal Republic can stomach any longer.

Certain smaller towns such as Freital in Saxony have actually hung out large posters "Immigrants/Refugees have no business here!" etc.

Not a pretty scene, people. Empathy fatigue?? Hmmm, I wonder.

Lyzko, any sources for that?

From memory the plan was to convert a building once used to sort and store the possessions of people, including more than a few refugees, who'd been sent to the camp into a disco. I'll have a look for a source or two.

Here you go: telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1353358/Anger-as-Auschwitz-disco-gets-go-ahead.html

More details after it opened ("The opening of the disco, complete with loud music, flashing lights, semi-nude dancers and wet T-shirt contests") jweekly.com/article/full/14447/auschwitz-place-of-memory-vs-oswiecim-a-living-city/

And here's a report about it being closed: edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/04/09/aushwitcz/index.html]http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/04/09/aushwitcz/index.html