Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Meanwhile, Merkel has initiated a new holy war, right in the heart of Europe. This is not an accident, it is by design. Thankfully the German people are now onto her...

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3302015/Thousands-streets-Pegida-anti-immigration-rally-Germany-group-s-founder-investigated-slander-comparing-justice-minister-Joseph-Goebbels.html

rt.com/op-edge/320651-germany-refugees-crisis- bavaria/

I was in Berlin last week. Business as usual. The only war going on is in the minds of sick individuals that have no purpose in life other than to stir trouble, like those stupid criminals that attacked a Christian Syrian person in Poznań while shouting derogatory anti-islamic slogans - here is the story in Polish (poznan.wyborcza.pl/poznan/1,36037,19139631,syryjczyk-pobity-przed-starym-browarem-rasistowski-atak-w-centrum.html). They already caught one of them, an 18 year old with a criminal record.

Maybe because you just frequent the rich parts of Berlin where, OF COURSE, there are no illegal immigrants.

One of my partners lives in Lichtenberg and he told me a TOTALLY different story.

For once (;)), I agree with Levy! Refugees are always accommodated in rundown neighborhoods or even surburbs that nobody visits. It'll be the same in Warsaw, they'll put them away in Praga North or Wola.

The big heart that you had in the beginning of this thread I am sure you will now keep your promise of taking in a family or two into your flat to help out so they won't have to live in Praga North or Wola.

Make sure you they are Syrian war refugees and not one of the other 80% that are merely economic invaders.

@Johhny: as a Polish taxpayer, some of my money shall go to refugees. On top of that, when any in Poland, I'll help them with my own money and time through associations.

But you said that you would be willing to take in a family or two.
What happened with that charitable promise ?
Have you started to back peddle too seeing the problem with these people ?
This video shows the mentality of people just like you in America too.
dailycaller.com/2015/11/04/do-you-want-sharia-law-in-america/

I agree. But since you live in saudi arabia you know how radical they are and the social life is terrible, life in syria isn't strict that's why most syrians would prefer europe over saudi arabia..

I think polish people have the right to reject refugees, although i don't agree with it, and i'm disgusted how some polish people behave and talk about refugees based on ignorance and hatred , especially after reading this

poznan.wyborcza.pl/poznan/1,36037,19139631,syryjczyk-pobity-przed-starym-browarem-rasistowski-atak-w-centrum.html

Poznan (and poland in general) used to be normal in the past two years until recently when the media directed its attention towards refugees and when all these negative articles in Poland on refugees startrd emerging

When people used to ask me about my origins I always answered Syria, but recently I have been approached several times by drunk Poles who asked me abou lt my origins, so I answered Syria but got a different kind of reaction that the one that I used to get, I got heavily interrogated so i decided to say that i'm french from now on..

It can't happen in Poland people are switched on...

stormfront/forum/t1110495/?s=ba92b44daef4819f246c5499174909f2

And also learning lessons from Germany, Sweden etc.

Biggest threat to Poland is the islamification happening all around in neighbouring countries.

an example that syrians can integrate :
Dr. George Yacoub has received a decoration from komorowski

prawy.pl/z-kraju/10140-prezydent-bronislaw-komorowski-znowu-odznacza

kulturaliberalna.pl/2011/05/03/przyprawianie-gombrowiczowskiej-%E2%80%9Egeby%E2%80%9D-o-obrazie-arabow-w-oczach-polakow-z-george%E2%80%99em-yacoubem-ro zmawia-roman-chymkowski

Important: If you post a link to a non-English source, ALWAYS summarize / translate the relevant parts into English!

another example
wyborcza.pl/10,82983,18847508,jestem-syryjczykiem-jestem-polakiem.html

A Christian Syrian, you forgot to say.

Nobody here is saying that Syrians are bad. Some of my best friends here are Syrians.

We are talking here about Syrian RadicalWahabbis financed by Saudi Arabia to destroy the secular government of Assad and install a radical muslim state. And that now are fleeing to Europe (And, unfortunately to Poland too)..

That didn't stop one syrian from getting beaten up yesterday in Poznan :)


You're talking like the numbers of Syrian radicals are in thousands..

You are forgetting one thing. They aren't our refugees, Fuhrer Merkel first invited them and now want to drag them here by force. They don't want to come here and we don't want them to be forced upon us and Fuhrer Merkel should have shyt to say about our immigration policy.


And look at the results of far-left/EUnuchs messing around.

that completes my previous statements and you're right ...


I agree


this shouldn't be an excuse for idiots to attack innocent people...

Only the foreigners living in Poland with no ties to the culture are welcoming them to Poland.
The Polish people want no part of them as they have seen the results of the burdens Muslims have brought to other countries.
(This post will self destruct with the other 1000 of them from this thread that have been deleted)

@Johhny: the foreigners you refer to 1. have family ties to Poland 2. are economically active in Poland 3. do pay tax to Poland 4. As EU citizens, some of us MAY vote in some Polish élections and 5. neither you nor levy fascist friend can claim so much related to Poland. 6. when you start paying tax to Poland, maybe you'lll be able to open your month.

wrong :)

[Moved from]: Which side should Poland take? Merkel menace to attack Austria if they don't allow refugees.

express.co.uk/news/world/616756/Migrant-crisis-German-Chancellor-Angela-Merkel-Balkan-tensions-war

The prospect of a war in Europe is becoming more and more realistical.

Suddenly, Angela Merkel decided to threat Austria if they dare to build a wall to avoid illegal immigrants.

Since Germany is a neighbour to Poland, this is the kind of issue that concerns all the Poles.

At the imminent war, which side should Poland take? The side of Merkel, or the side of Europe?

Not really. What's most likely to happen is that if Germany doesn't start waking up, then Schengen will be suspended and Germany will be forced to back down. More to the point, she isn't threatening Austria at all. She's referring to the possibility of things exploding in the Balkans if the migrants aren't allowed through to Germany. It's quite possible - Croatia closes the border, which means the route then goes through Bosnia. If they're stuck in Bosnia, the Croats and Serbs are going to go beserk and start rearming to protect themselves (in that typical Balkan way). Which will end in tears.

The most likely scenario right now is that Germany will finally say "enough", and Greece will be told to accept EU help with securing the border.


Merkel won't start any wars. Again, you're not European, you have no idea how deeply integrated Europe is.

They could be in the thousands. Bottom line the vast majority are muslims and that's reason enough to keep them out.

Just like people said about Poles not so long ago...

My current theory is that migrants will be used to dismantle the welfare state (which EU leaders are clearly disenchanted with). The new arrivals will soak up so much government money there won't be any left for the native population in need (this is already hit an advanced stage in Sweden). Once the services are cut to natives they won't be returned and will then be turned down on the migrants (who aren't natives and won't be able to complain very effectively).

They are counting on being able to demonize those criticizing the massive spending that will be necessary on the new arrivals while they scale back operations (that benefit the citizenry)

This is why Poland won't be under too much pressure to take in refugees since social spending on locals is already pretty low. the pressure to take in migrants is all for show.

So what in your view will actually happen if indeed 3 mln refugees/mirgants (I doubt if the two goroups will ever get surgically separated!) end up in Europe by 2017, most of them in Germany? How will it affect the economy and social situation (welfare infrastructure) of Germany and neighbouring countries? WIll the Islam/Christian rows or actual physical clashes (torching churches and mosques, punch-ups) erupt?

Beats the hell out of me. I don't think they're thinking this through too well. But the three million would be more like 15 million once reunification kicks in. I think they're hoping that once the gravy train runs dry and they have no more money to spend then the non-natives would leave.

Or maybe they're planning on using the new arrivals as physical thought police to keep the cowed locals in line.

There are a lot of possibilities but all the good endings are very improbable. Some kind of disaster is much more likely at this point.

I'm serious when I write that Poland might need to come up with migration policy for western Europeans....

If Germany really does end up taking an astronomical amount of people that refuse to return, then the only logical consequence is the rise of a party like the AfD, running on a platform to deport the vast majority of them. I can absolutely see a situation emerging where the EU agrees to limit welfare benefits to citizens of a country, riots occuring and Germany being in a no-win situation.

I don't see a good exit strategy for Germany here. Poland can take even 25,000 and still be able to return most of them easily, but removing a projected number of up to 1.5 million is going to be...impossible. The surreal thing is that Merkel is sticking to the line that "Germany can cope", even when it's obvious that it can't.


I'm struggling to see how Germany can cope with this in the long run.

But maybe there's another scenario we haven't considered. Germany could well reform her welfare system to force them into work (or be deported), meaning that Germany could end up getting their hands on a lot of very cheap workers that have no choice but to work. But it seems a dangerous, dangerous gamble. I'm also not convinced it could work.

I don't think I've met a single person that genuinely can explain Merkel's actions - even the Germans I know are absolutely bewildered as to why she's opened the door to everyone, even the left wing ones. I know one rather radical left winger there, and she also admitted that it seems like Germany has no plan whatsoever.

.....which is why the electorate is so anti-Merkel! According to DER SPIEGEL, she has the lowest approval rating ever.

express.co.uk/news/uk/605238/Islamic-State-David-Cameron-Lebanon-Elias-Bou-Saab-Migrant-Refugee-Syria-Pope-Francis

1 at each 50 illegal immigrant is an ISIS soldier.

So we can assume that among those 1900 received by Poland, at least 40 are dangerous, trained and battle tested islamist radicals that pledged alliance to Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and are ready to kill as many poles as possible.

Please read that link properly Levi, because within it, this is what is said:

The minister admitted that he had no solid information on the infiltration of refugees by the depraved terror group, but claimed his "gut feeling" told him it was happening

Don't believe everything you read Levi.

I am not talking about whatever the minister said (since he is clearly stupid about this matter).

I am talking about a leader FROM the region said, also written in the article and apparently you skipped:

"Lebanese education minister Elias Bou Saab who met with Mr Cameron to tell him thousands of ISIS "radicals" were among the 1.1million Syrians currently in migrant camps.

He predicted that one in 50 migrants are members of the terror organisation, which was "more than enough" to bring unprecedented death and chaos to European countries."

An excuse to eliminate elections (the direction the EU is headed on important issues).


What can they do? Automation and outsourcing are going to eliminate most unskilled jobs.