Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

excellent news!!!
future EU minister Konrad Szymański said regarding relocation of immigrants :
In view of the tragic events in Paris Poland sees no political feasibility decision on the relocation of refugees. Poland must retain full control over its borders ,and on asylum and immigration policies

@Gregy: of course you don't know that 99.99% of the "muslims"' don't follow islamists but never mind, such ignorance is so common in PF. Poland plays no role in world politics, simply because too weak. The Islamists deal with the "big fish"

@Dolno: Yes, it is scarry that they let just anyone enter without checking. This reminds me of Cuba sending all their garbage to the US in early 1980's as the US government had accepted "political refugees". I had a friend in the military and at the time at Fort Braggs (?) in South Carolina where a lot of those "Mariolitos" were kept. I remember her saying that after each meal, American soldiers had to count spoons because the Cuban refugees tried to keep them in order to make weapons....

I'd have to concur, dolnośląsk!

From where I sit, Poland, like Germany for that matter, cannot possibly aka logistically, hope to absorb comfortably such torrents of newcomers, particularly who don't even speak the national mother tongue.

It's insanity!!

Gregy741 ... that is true. But the long term future is bleak. As Germany, France and the UK islamise and their populations are replaced, Poland will find itself surrounded by hostile neighbours. And some of these hostile countries have nuclear weapons and armed forces. They would not hesitate to use them in an ideological struggle. OK, it might not happen tomorrow but in 10 or 20 years its almost inevitable.

The Islamist have no problem sacrificing themselves and other Muslims in the name of Allah. That's a given.
And I would be tickled to death to hear your definition of "Islamism" as you seem to be a little confused with the word.


I think Poland has seen what has happened in other countries the Muslims have been allowed in.
The Muslims have no desire to acclimate with learning the language, tolerating it's new culture in many ways, by taking over and living in their own communities, demanding that their children get special privileges in the school system, demanding and working the welfare system, demanding their culture be tolerated in their host country.............

With so many cultural issues at hand besides not knowing the language of the host country (and not wanting to learn it) the ones that do work take the low paying jobs that the uneducated native people are forced to do putting them out of work and on the welfare roll.

Then to have the EU "force" Poland to take high risk people that are known for terrorism to accept them as neighbors with open arms comfortably is insanity.

well. europrans have themselves to blame.maybe thats replacement is just natural and imminent.
if europe doesnt change its moral values they will die out anyway.
i mean ,every woman in europe wants to be manager of company.giving birth to children and family life is considered back warded and pathological.

muslims didnt bring stupid feminism and abortion on demand to europe,we invented it.and there is a price for stupidity.

LOL This idiotic comment from PIS belongs in my thread about "PIS Proclamations." Poland will have to accept the agreed quotas, or pay mandates, paid of course from the levies that the new government are going (to try to) extract from businesses.

If the new government wont follow European Law, we can only hope that they are held accountable, and not the 2/3 of the population who didn't vote for these village xenophobes..

simple solution...revoke money for UN and other "help" for developing countries,and pay to eu for braking agreement fon relocation. britain is thinking to stop international help as well..billions wasted.now can be put to develop european people not islamic maniacs.

I am not among their confidents but I'm sure that our "great" EU leaders shall take last night into consideration in their immigration policies. Poland sticks to their point of view but as of today, almost all French are against new immigration and the French government shall have to accept it and it's expected that a lot of countries shall build walls around them.

Just heard on tv a guy saying that "Syrian passports are easy to buy and are very cheap" when some other guy pointed out that investigators had found a Syrian passport. What I mean is that if Syrian passports are no big deal to buy, how can the EU leaders claim that all migrants are Syrian refugees????

What an optimiste! I'm assuming they're going to double down harder than ever on their ongoing project to increase the unassimilated underclass in as many Eruopean countries as they can.


To anyone, comme moi, who's been following this (which excludes most EU leaders apparently) this has long been well known. And Germany, due to shear numbers isn't even really pretending to check anymore.

germanimmigration.eu/2015/11/bureaucrats-no-longer-examining-migrants-claims-to-be-syrian.html

Oh, and being a criminal is not an impediment to receiving "asylum"

germanimmigration.eu/2015/11/a-while-ago-on-my-other-blog-we-met-hamza-a-washington-post-reporter-who-spoke-fluent-arabic-encountered-hamza-and-his-frie.html

How will better behaved Syrians react when this new lot starts making "Syrian" synonymous with "troublemaker"?

Why should Poland accept a bunch of unvetted "Syrians" who are nothing of the kind? Especially since the original decision was made without any consultation with the Polish government?

This is turning into the biggest political disaster of the century (Danke Angela!)

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Exactly but those damn Americans that have been trying to stop them from acquiring those nuke's (Iran) while Russia and N.Korea are supporting them by selling and supplying them the components to build nuke's and that damn United States setting up a missile shield to protect Poland from such an attack and fighting the people in the middle east that wouldn't hesitate to use them, with a horrendous annual expense to those damn Americans.

and then I hear how horrible it is that the west (those damn America's again) set up sanctions against Russia so Poland couldn't/shouldn't sell them apples.

and then I hear how those damn American's should just pull out of the middle eastern countries and go home and all will be better.

So far Poland has skirted giving up the Zloty, accepting large amounts of Muslim refugees of sorts, elected new government leaders that were long over due, removed the rainbow, said they would send Roman back to those damn American's for justice and protected it's people with dignity.

Poland is 'ROCKIN' in my book !

@Dolno: I tried to find other sources through Google but have not found anything. So BBC has confirmed????!!!! If so, it's true.... Anything in Polish media?

Not picked anything up on polish media , daily mail have the greek story as a headline now, also the are saying one of the terrorists was a 15 year old boy,

Poland links last night's attacks to refugee crisis: fr.news.yahoo.com/pologne-lie-attentats-%C3%A0-crise-migrants-d%C3%A9clare-nen-151434007.html and so does for instance French General Vincent Desportes as per his interview earlier today to "Vingt minutes".

If true, Merkel, Junker, Tusk and consorts shall be politically dead...

@Dolno: BBC among other media is most reliable ....

Important: If you post a link to a non-English source, ALWAYS summarize / translate the relevant parts into English!

A truly sad day for genuine refugees. My family were once in that situation. luckily they found a country that would take them in.

Agreed, Mod, but I have summarized article in my first sentence or maybe you need more ;). I'll will from now on ;).

@Dolno: Yes, very sad for genuine war refugees but IF proof one or more terrorrist(s) among the migrants, it's finished for the socalled EU's quotas as no country (not even Germany) shall take any in. My maternel grand-father was a political refugee, my paternal great-grandfather was a migrant, my mother-in-law's family was Jewish so I know ... but I don't want war at my place. Hungary and Slovenia for instance will continue building their walls...

They have not yet released names of victims but of course they will and we'll see relatives, neighbors, colleagues, friends .... cry on TV. Maybe there are some people that I know or used to know among the victims...

If attacks really linked to migrants, I expect the German people to demand Merkel to resign. Junker, Tusk and consorts should also resign.

A sad day for refugees? What about the families of the people who were murdered ? The true callousness of a true liberal never ceases to amaze...

Of course my heart goes out to to all the families that have lost loved ones, My family history is scarred by atrocities similar to those in France last night.

That's it, info given by Polish media (including GW) and cannot be denied. I cannot believe it. I knew and I wrote it several times in PF that the future would not be bright but never in my worst nightmares I would not have imagined what happened last night. Frau Merkel, I don't want your stupid "condoleances" but I want you to resign and to be judged for crimes against humanity and I'm sure at least 99.99 of the French feel same way I do. I am also sure that Germans will react too... That woman is a disgrace. .

PS: several people arrested in Brussels....

Fools. It's just the beginning.

@Grzegorz: unfortunately, I have to agree with you, it's only the beginning.... I'm so sad and also so furious......

Must admit this is why I moved back to Poland (to keep me and family safe), I'd had enough of LLP policies, and decided to move back to my sane homeland

The two key words for this thread: Poland and refugees - please keep to the topic

It gets worse. The Greeks are claiming a second was registered there...

Yes, Delph, even one would be too many and bad for Merkel and co. They have also found an Egyptian passport on a terrorist. No matter if one appears French, several of them are Belgian, they all were sponsored/trained/financed by islamists in Syria or Irak and therefore Merkel shall be blamed (what the Polish government has already done).

Heard on French TV, a (right-wing) French senator said that while visiting some camps in Turkey, some of the refugees there told her and her group that "not all of them are ... genuine refugees" ;). I can't undertand Merkel's "logic". What sense does it make to let anybody in without checking. I work with big companies and also the Polish government and every time I go there (although I'm known) I have to show my ID and go through security... The woman may be sick because it is not normal to act the way she does.. Because of her stupidity, a lot of people got killed last night and a lot more are in critical condition. No excuse!

Poland still resists, but for how long? Merkel poison, Merkel invitation to all I. S. I. S . soldiers to come as "refugees" is open

The Polish media have so far not seen fit to speculate as to whether this might not be the beginning of the end of our civilisation. Some are saying the refugee crisis and the terrorist attacks are two separate issues, but are they not closely interrelated? The northbound streams of refugees and migrants is an excellent way to channel terrorists into Europe -- fresh unknown potential martyrs not registered or monitored by Western intelligence and police. That is not to say our civilisaiton will end next Thursday morning at 10.20. Most people think what we've got is what we'll always have, but history tells us something else. That all civilisations rise and fall. The Roman empire ruled half the known world but collapsed to the barbarians. Everybody knows that but somehow thinks it won't happen to our civilisation. There is no way to fight militant Islam because the fanatical enemy is fearless and seeks violent death to become a martyr and achieve his eternal reward. Besides, all the West's most sophisticated high-tech military hardward is no match for the hybrid war which can erupt anywhere. anytime when least expected. A handful of terrorists bent on self-martyrdom can cause as much carnage and damage as an infantry regiment at far lower cost. The regiment of a civilised country would try to limit collateral damage. The fanatic blows up or mows down anyone in sight. Those morons are even known to blow up mosques.

Hard to argue with you there, Polonius. If you look at recent history - the UK had terrible problems with the IRA, West Germany had terrible problems with the RAF (though they were helped by the Stasi...) and Spain had terrible problems with ETA. None of those groups were particularly numerous, but both the IRA and ETA relied on a relatively passive local population to succeed. It shows what can be done by a few determined individuals - from memory, most bombs in the 1990's in the UK were constructed by a very small group within the IRA.

Even going back, look how devastating the AK was with such limited resources. I seem to recall that the UPA post-war also achieved a hell of a lot with very limited resources.

For what it's worth, from a political point of view, it is now impossible for Poland and quite a few others to accept a single migrant. I'm pretty sure there's a broad consensus in Polish society against taking any - and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Poland now enacts far tougher immigration laws surrounding non-EU citizens.

I do hope you are right. Poland and Hungary are our last hope against the Merkel juggernaut.

And it's hard to criticize that consensus.


That would be regrettable in some sense but at the same time understandable.

I think anyone rational can see the damage done by Merkel's stupid comments. It's not only overwhelmed Europe and Germany in particular, it's also placed Schengen at risk of falling apart and created a very clear "us vs them" mentality towards the genuine refugees. For what, exactly, Angela?