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Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it



Velund
18 Mar 2014  #121

Yet another horryfying photo from Crimea...

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #122

According to Putin one can buy all the equipment that bloke has from any store.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #123

yup,and according to experts from militaryphotos.net those uniforms are not Russians but cheap ones made in Ukraine

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #124

Here's a crowd of Ukrainian Tatars getting together to give thanks for thanks for their liberation:
kyivpost.com/multimedia/photo/crimean-tatars-grieve-for-a-first-victim-reshat-ametov-339914.html

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #125

Here's a crowd of Ukrainian Tatars getting together to give thanks for thanks for their liberation:

and i would bet both my hands on Maidan ppl done this.
old school trick provocation

Marek11111
18 Mar 2014  #126

we can blame Putin for ordering thousands of Russian troops to invade and then ordering a sham referendum be organised under the leadership of a man whose party used to poll in the region of 4% in previous elections.

Harry are you believe what you posting or you just trolling? either way you do not have a leg to stand on and just grasping, good day hope your pc explodes.

Velund
18 Mar 2014  #127

With such brain configuration, it was easy to believe in US/EU promises... ;)

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #128

and i would bet both my hands on Maidan ppl done this.

Chop your hands off Greggy:

After Ametov took part in a meeting to support the EuroMaidan Revolution on March 3, a local TV crew filmed him standing in silent protest before uniformed Russian-backed armed men and Crimean self-defense forces surrounding the Cabinet of Ministers building in Simferopol.

"He was just standing there and they took him away," Ametov's mother, Refika Ametova, told the Kyiv Post. "He stood there for about an hour and a quarter, and I suppose they were waiting for him to leave. But he didn't, and in the end they took his arms and took him away."

kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/ametov-murdered-crimean-tatar-called-first-victim-of-russian-occupation-339911.html

Good luck posting without your hands Greggy.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #129

Good luck posting without your hands Greggy.

sure...and snipers in Kiev killing berkut were sent by Putin and Yanukowith...errr at least until some conversations were leaked

Marek11111
18 Mar 2014  #130

"Kovitidi, however, provides much more specific information regarding the nature of the IMF conditionalities.
The Deputy Prime Minister claims that the tentative IMF agreement involves handing over the entire country's gas pipeline for free to the American company Chevron. She also claims that the owners of the Mariupol, Zaporizhzhya, and Dnipropetrovsk steel mills will be required to give up 50% of the ownership stakes to German company Ruhr."

activistpost.com/2014/03/imf-plans-massive-austerity-for-ukraine.html

with that king of a deal all of Ukraine will ask to join Russia with in a month, this is IMF killing people not helping.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #131

Good luck posting without your hands Greggy.

it doesnt make sense for Putin killing one person...it would only further alienate world.here:
"whether it was an isolated act of violence, spurred by racism or part of a plan to ignite broader conflict between the ethnic minority and Russian majority on the peninsula."its way to obvious who would want that.

didnt US Embassy in Kiev talking about "false flag"and doing s..t in russian uniforms?

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #132

sure...and snipers in Kiev killing berkut were sent by Putin and Yanukowith

How are you posting without your hands greggy? Or do you know better than the victim's mother what she saw for herself?

The Deputy Prime Minister claims that the tentative IMF agreement involves handing over the entire country's gas pipeline for free to the American company Chevron.

One does wonder how the self-appointed Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea knows what an agreement she has never seen says.

I wonder why Marek so selectively quotes from the article? Could it be because it goes on to say this?

The Finnish subsidiary of Ruhr, according to Kovitidi, will inherit the Donbass coal industry.

Clearly even Marek has noted that the Kiev govt currently spends $1 billion per year supporting the Ukrainian coal industry and not even he would claim that a private company would be interested in spending that!

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #133

How are you posting without your hands greggy? Or do you know better than the victim's mother what she saw for herself?

so you are already blamed Putin for this killing?well...i will chop my hands after i see evidence..its very old US trick:

BUT IF HE WAS KILLED BY PRO RUSSIA PEOPLE,THEN ITS CLEARLY WRONG AND VERY HARMFUL .I DOUBT PUTIN WOULD WANT CONFLICT WITH TATARS

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #134

so you are already blamed Putin for this killing?well...i will chop my hands after i see evidence..its very old US trick:

His mother says it was pro-Kremlin men, local TV has film of them taking him away, independent local media confirm it. Your hands greggy, off they come, chop chop.

wearechange.org/anonymous-releases-email-alleged ly-detaili ng-western-backed-false-flag-ukraine/

And the link at the bottom of that page?

Fifty thousand Orthodox Jews take over TEN BLOCKS of New York ...

Good to see your reading habits haven't changed greggy.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #135

His mother says it was pro-Kremlin men

Surely,she has ability to look into the minds of those people and see who they were supporting.
or...she judged by the looks of them,but then here we go again:

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #136

wearechange.org/anonymous-releases-email-alleged ly-detaili ng-western-backed-false-flag-ukraine/

Jesus wept greggy! You don't seriously think that this text was written by a native speaker of English do you?!

"causing problems to the transport hubs in the south-east of Ukraine in order to frame-up the neighbor. It will create favorable conditions for Pentagon to act"

That is fcuking priceless greggy!

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #137

That is fcuking priceless greggy!

you know what is most sad?
Poland inviting people who support bandera (like you)to work in my country as volunteer.if there is justice,you should be prosecuted for supporting extremely antipolish and criminal ideologies and supporting people associated with them.

and you should be showed minimum 20 pictures of UPA victims

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #138

you know what is most sad?

It's people like you who claim to love Poland never ever doing anything to help Poland and calling people who do work for Poland 'anti-Polish'. Oh, and people like you lying about Poland and Poles, for example your lies about the people of Poland not standing behind Ukraine when Ukraine has been invaded by a foreign power which has occupied large parts of Poland for most of the last couple of hundred years.

people who support bandera (like you)

Tut tut greggy, out-right lying now. Or would you care to quote even a word I have ever said in support of Bandera? No? OK then, now you can get on with chopping your hands off, given that you have lost them in a bet.

you should be prosecuted for supporting extremely antipolish and criminal ideologies and supporting people associated with them.

Tell you what greggy, post that same statement with your real name on it and your real (checkable) IP address on it, and I'll happily report that accusation to the Polish prosecutor, given how it is an illegal statement. Sound good?

Marek11111
18 Mar 2014  #139

Harry Harry you are ridicules you know you are wrong yet .... is someone paying you to lie? or you are a lair naturally.

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #140

you know you are wrong yet

I look forward to you attempting to point out things which I am wrong about.
However, given that you make no attempt to do that and instead only try to insult me, we can all see that you know you are unable to point out anything incorrect that I have said here.

Velund
18 Mar 2014  #141

Looks like one of two suspected crimean snipers already arrested. 17 yr old from Lvov.
Also, there is info that a car with hidden firearms captured.

No official information yet.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #142

Looks like one of two suspected crimean snipers already arrested. 17 yr old from Lvov.

where is Harry??!!!!
i guess hes searching Lvov on the map....i help you Harry,is in west Ukraine,maidan ppl bastion...,sorry i dissapoint you its not in Russia

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #143

where is Harry??!!!!

I'm wondering how you're posting now you've cut your hands off.

i guess hes searching Lvov on the map....i help you Harry,is in west Ukraine,maidan ppl bastion...,sorry i dissapoint you its not in Russia

Ah, and the fact that Lvov is in western Ukraine conclusively proves, in your mind, that it wasn't pro-Kremlin forces who murdered a Ukrainian officer, shot and wounded another one and beat another with iron bars leaving him with leg and head injuries. Fine, whatever greggy, thanks for sharing that with us. Now, chop chop, off with your hands.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #144

Now, chop chop, off with your hands

not so fast
am rising stakes and putting my legs that those snipers were maidan ppl

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #145

Greggy, one of the things about snipers is that they shoot people. Snipers do not beat people with iron bars. Also, snipers do not steal people's money and documents. Do try harder.

gregy741
18 Mar 2014  #146

not sure what iron bars u talking about.:
here is an news:
rt.com/news/crimea-shooting-military-center-646

Harry
18 Mar 2014  #147

And here's a neutral source:

Ukrainian officer reportedly killed and others hurt in clashes with Russian forces
Tensions in Crimea have escalated today after Ukraine reported that one of its soldiers has been killed by pro-Russian forces.
The officer's death is the first fatality since Russian forces took control of the peninsula, which on Sunday voted for independence in a controversial referendum.
Two other Ukrainian military personnel were injured, according to the Ukrainian authorities, with one of them having been beaten with iron bars.

praguepost.com/eu-news/37848-crimean-tensions-turn-deadly

And another:

An eyewitness told the BBC that armed men arrived in two unmarked vehicles, storming the base in Simferopol and firing automatic weapons.
The Ukrainian government said a junior officer who was on duty in a park inside the base had been killed and another officer injured. A third serviceman had leg and head injuries after being beaten with iron bars, it said.
The government said the commander of the unit was captured by men wearing Russian uniforms.
Defence ministry spokesman Vladislav Seleznyov told Reuters the attack was by "unknown forces, fully equipped and their faces covered".
The Ukrainians had had their IDs, weapons and money confiscated, he said.

bbc.com/news/world-europe-26637296

gregy741
19 Mar 2014  #148

ok,,how about

Putin vs Yatsenyuk?
how do your perceive them,purely on just personal feeling to them?
i feel there is something evil,twisted and cynical with Yatseniuk,even his face reflect those things...
but maybe am biased and abit hasty words due to hectic and tension situation.

Velund
19 Mar 2014  #149

i feel there is something evil,twisted and cynical with Yatseniuk,even his face reflect those things...

Usually guys like this one pays much more attention to faces of Mr. Franklin on a banknotes rather than to face of guy who pay. ;)

Harry
19 Mar 2014  #150

according to experts from militaryphotos.net those uniforms are not Russians but cheap ones made in Ukraine

That's very interesting, because the weapons being seen are most certainly not cheap ones made in Ukraine but instead the rather expensive kind used by Russian special forces:

instagram.com/p/lVvsc1oODv

And the 'Crimean self-defence militia' also appear to have at least one Russian Tigr-M Mobile Electronic Warfare vehicle, a state of the art vehicle which only entered service with Russian forces in 2012.

instagram.com/p/lYa2HKIOCo/#


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