Random Chat 4

@Bobko

Are you saying that Ukrainian nationality was invented by Austrians as a scourge against Poles and Russians? A scandalous proposition.

@Paulina

"Violet not blue" lol

No heterosexual man can tell the difference between violet and blue, scarlet and red, or emerald and green. These are female inventions just to annoy us.

@Paulina

Blue/violet. Курица не птица, Польша не заграница.

@Bobko, violet isn't the same as blue and Poland is заграница :D 🤗


Are you saying that all male painters in the history of humankind were gay? ;D

Hmm ... possibly. Or at least bi.

"Half of my class at art school were boys and only one of them was gay :)"

I call bullsh*t on that. They just weren't ready to come out of the closet, were denying their real inclinations or were at least bisexual.

Violet and blue are basically the same colour.

Hardly.

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@jon357

Notice that I said "no heterosexual man".

If you can easily tell the difference between the above almost identical colours, then I congratulate you. Do you have any other useless superpowers?

Exactly. Well said, mod. Not everyone here is interested in only-by-gays-distinguishable colours.

@Bobko

As usual your analysis is 50% surprisingly correct, 50% exaggeration, and 50% bullsh*t.

But still you are slowly gaining deep knowledge of Poland. Stick around. :)

They're similar, but not the same :)


Why? Boys at my art school were no different than boys at my primary and secondary school and male students at college. The only difference was that they could draw. There were specializations at my school, btw, and some were predominantly male (sculpting) and some predominantly female (weaving). Everybody had one thing in common though - they could draw/paint (some were better, some were worse at it, but still...).


Maybe you're colour-blind? Men are more likely to be colour-blind than women, but I don't think it has anything to do with sexual orientation:

pilestone.com/blogs/news/why-men-are-colorblind-more-often-than-women


Why so angry? :P

You'd be wrong though. I went to art college too and just like too Paulina, there were more boys than girls and all were very much hetero except for one very weird, sexless creature, God love him. They were just regular guys who could draw. Actually I found they were often really into technical drawing, very fine detail, pen and ink work, studies in perspective or stuff like animation and lino cut or woodcut prints. Maybe Paulina could comment.


No, they're on the same range of the spectrum but not the same colour. Violet is a shade of purple with a predominantly blue base as opposed to a red base.

Maybe. However, since I am not homosexual, it doesn't bother me in the least.


Angry? The last time I was angry was when I was 5 and got hit by a speeding TIR truck; that was also the first and last time in my life that I cried (only a little).

@Atch

"Violet is a shade of purple with a predominantly blue base as opposed to a red base".

Admit it - you've just made that up.

No, that's how colours work. The primary colours of yellow, blue and red give us the secondary colours of green, purple and orange. The amount of yellow, blue or red you mix gives you a secondary colour with those underlying tones to a greater or lesser degree. Even black is never just black, it will have a warm or cool undertone.

As far as I know, the person who invented the colour wheel and probably most scientists who deal with light refraction (though obviously by no means all) identify as breeding stock.


An occasionally useful but more often annoying one that a tiny number of humans seem to have and that science is only just beginning to look at. You wouldn't like to know about it and at first I thought it was unique and troubling. There are however a few online references to people who have the same ability and calls for further scientific research into why a very small number of people seem to be able to do this. What is it? You'd not like to find out in a hurry.

Here's my theory:

Red, green, blue, yellow, white, black - these colours definitely exist.

I can also acknowledge the existence of pink, orange, gold and silver.

So, that's 10 colours in the Universe. The rest is nonsense.

OK, there's also gray, so that's 11 (like footballers in a team) but no more than that.

What about puce?

Or gamboge.

"What about puce?"

Depending on what you have eaten puke can have all 11 colours. I had a shirt like that once.

Is your puke puce then?

I'd see a doctor.

At my school it was fifty-fifty :) I have a kind of school chronicle about the school's history and with memories of former students and it seems like boys in the past were often going to that school, because they thought they'll meet there "beautiful girls with skilfull hands" lol


I don't know, in my group majority of boys were in the sculpting specialization, so maybe there's something to it, but they could draw and paint too - everybody had to participate in the basic classes like "drawing and painting", "computer graphics", etc. My specialization - painting and gilding - was considered the best, because many kids wanted to get into it and you had to be the most skilled at drawing and painting and have the best grades from secondary school to get into it when you were passing the entry exams to that art school. You were allowed to pick your preferred specialization before the exams, but in the end you were assigned based on your results, so I don't know how many people ended up where they wanted to... All of the students in my group were girls, except for one boy. Ironically, he was the most well built and manly of all the boys in my class ;D And he was dating a girl :P I even had a crush on him ;O He was also very talented, hard-working and ambitious. Now he's drawing comic books and you could see some 3D computer animated stuff in adds on Polish TV done by the studio he's working for :)

Oh sh!t, I might not be hetero!!!!!

Tell me there's an exception to the rule!

If a manly man can tell the difference between violet and blue, scarlet and red (because he played on team that wore scarlet-otherwise wouldn't know the diff), but NOT emerald and green...is he in the save zone of being straight hetero? ...fingers crossed.

It was kind of like the Sorting Hat at Hogwarts ;D


You guys are impossible ;D

@Paulina

Impossibly awesome! 😉

Yes, it has.
Even in Random it has been a pleasant read today.
What has changed ?

That's interesting, the gilding bit. Could you have gone into art restoration Paulina? My first year of art college was the Foundation Year where we did a bit of everything but the most time was given to drawing and painting, then sculpture. The rest was about two classes per week each in animation, photography, printing etc. and of course the history of art. After that you specialised. You could go for fine art with either painting or sculpture as your main subject or you could do one of the design degree options or do art education and train to be an art teacher.



So you don't acknowledge the existence of purple - is that why you lost your Catholic faith? ;) What colour candles would you use on an advent wreath?

As I already explained there are three primary colours which give us the three secondary colours and what we have is numerous shades of those colours and each shade has a name. Think of the difference between the red of a tomato and that of a cherry and how the red of a raspberry differs from a strawberry.

Yes, graduates from our specialization were eagerly awaited at Art Conservation and Restoration faculties at Polish fine art schools, because, besides gilding, we were also copying works of great painting masters (that's basically all we were doing, unfortunately). One of the girls from my group ended up studying Art Conservation and became an art conservator working in Italy.

The aunt of one of the girls from my group was an art conservator and that girl said that her aunt got cancer from working with all the chemicals and that put me off... Also, you'd have to be really good at chemistry and I wasn't that much into it... and I had enough of working on the art of other people at that time, so I decided not to take that path :)


That's probably a better solution... At least it seems more reasonable to me. 🤔

Before the entry exams I was taking sculpting classes offered by that art school, because I had no idea about sculpting and there was a sculpting exam, among others... Already at that time I realised that you've got to be actually pretty strong to sculpt and that it's not for me... So even at that early stage you had some idea about what you may be good at... But, still, I like the idea of that "Foundation Year" :)


Exactly, during Lent priests wear violet robes at the mass, because it symbolises mourning, penance, etc. Not blue :)

My old university had a Fine and Decorative Arts degree aimed at people who wanted to be art restorers. Apparently there was huge competition for places on it.

@jon357, I don't know what was the competition at those faculties in Poland, I just know (or, at least, that's what our professors told us) that people from our specialization at our school were having an easy time getting into those faculties...

I've got to say that this girl from my group wasn't even one of the most talented and intelligent students in our specialization and at my class, but she was hard-working and ambitious and I was impressed with her determination to study all that chemistry stuff :) Especially that we had a nasty chemistry teacher lol ;P

But she borrowed my notebook for studying for entry exams (the one where we were noting all the stuff from our specialization about painting techniques, gilding, preparing primer for canvas the old-school way, etc.) and she didn't give it back to this day ;/ 🤷

In my class, sorry :) Classes were divided into "groups" according to specializations and in my "painting and gilding" group there was was one boy and the rest were girls.

If you're interested in art restoration and haven't read Daniel Silva's books yet, I highly recommend them. They follow the exciting life of a world-renowned art restorer who also works as a spy for Mossad. I personally own ten of his titles and they're all excellent reads. However, it's important to remember that these are works of fiction and shouldn't be taken as historical facts.

@Przelotnyptak1, this sounds cool... Which of his books are about that art restorer?

I will look for these.

Have you read any of Kyril Bonfiglioli's Mortdecai books. You might like them. About an art dealer who solves crimes. Despite the name, he was an Englishman. I wouldn't bother with the film that was made of one of them a few years ago, however the books are excellent. They're both exciting and funny and a very long way from being politically correct.

Some people consider them 'cult classics' which appeal to people of a traditional mindset.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortdecai